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Karl_Donitz_Jr
09-12-2008, 03:36 AM
Hi All. After a break from playing SHIII I am back (Sorry, but my nwe X-Box 360 just HAD to be worn in!) and I am in a U-Boat dilemma.

Background. I have 25000+ Renown (Late 1940) playing Grey Wolves 1.0? I am currently sailing a VIIB out of Lorient.

My crew is highly rewarded and I just got the U-Boat clasp..... I don't have the top-right award & have NEVER been able to get it. What is it anybody?

Anywho, I am thinking I want more flack and a twin 20mm on the VIIB just dosn't do it for me lol

Should I go for a VIIC or IXB or stay where I am? This is my delimma.

I like my short range jaunts off Gibralta and around England and don't know if I want the range of a IX but on the otherhand I get more torpedos and more guns (flack and bigger deck gun).

I do programme my patrol grids in using SHIII Commander, but they are realistic ones ie I would not programme the Bristol Channel for a IX!!

I also like the battleships the IX gives me..... So help lol

THoughts all??

tuddley3
09-12-2008, 04:12 AM
I don't have an answer for you, I just wanted to say welcome back. You sound refreshed after a little time off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Foehammer-1
09-12-2008, 07:44 AM
Well. Historically, by the end of a happy time it really didnt matter what boat you had. Cause all those boats were either sunk in the Bay, or did patrols very close to England. So much for travelling to the US and Canadian waters.

I'd stick with a VIIc. The IX ones are nice, torpedoes, flak and all, but in GWX mods, the enemy is unforgiving. You won't be able to fend off planes with flak, and the massive (and slow-turning) boat is like a barn door to the enemy sonar and depth charges.

If you want, you can install the VIIc/42 mod. It turns your VIIc boat into a VIIc/42, which is broken in stock game. With that one, you can dive quite a bit deeper, a lifesaver at times.

MarkSynthesis
09-12-2008, 08:26 AM
I'd recommend the IX. One good thing about the later years, besides the additional upgrades, is that the average taskforce groups get heavier and heavier warships--and you'll appreciate the torpedoes the IX has to sink said warships.

You're in a dire position around England no matter what boat you have, and when you DO get caught, the IX might be slower and more sluggish, but it can take more as well as dish out more than any VII. Some might think of studiness as being a retroactive decision, but I find it assuring. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Plus, it dives much deeper than the VII boats.

Speaking of which, what Xbox 360 titles did you pick up?

Kielhauler1961
09-12-2008, 08:47 AM
Try driving a II,
Its only a canoe,
But it might suit you...'

KH.

Karl_Donitz_Jr
09-12-2008, 09:16 AM
Try driving a II,
Yes. I had one of them once. I got killed by a Fishing Boat out side Scapa.

Never again! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

mariuszj1939
09-12-2008, 11:04 AM
My personal advice - stay with VII type. Why ? Because partols are shorter with more fun and targets around Western Europe/North Africa and finally you have more chance to be not detected and sunk. Add. diving time for type IX is not the best one.
I tested many types and VIIB till end 1941 was the best one - difference between VIIB and VIIC is quite small.

Foehammer-1
09-12-2008, 11:41 AM
I tested many types and VIIB till end 1941 was the best one - difference between VIIB and VIIC is quite small

That's until you install the VIIc/42 mod, which only works for the VIIc. You have a very good dive depth (hull starts breaking at ~270-290 meters, depends on your luck, as if, what SH3 commander thought of your individial boat), and those 4 lifeboat canisters on the bow, which I think is a cool touch.

In a VIIc, the submerged slower speed is really not a huge issue, cause most of the time you'd be creeping along at 2-3 knots anyway. And you get the U-Flak configuration, if you REALLY want. But it sucks, since GWX planes will kill you eventually http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

[edit] I dove past 300 meters in this modded VIIc once, but only once, by accident. You know, when you go at 2 knots below 150 meters, and the boat sloooowly sinks.

Realjambo
09-12-2008, 03:20 PM
Welcome back Karl http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I have to endorse earlier suggestions, go with a VIIc and see how you get on. It was after all the work horse of the U-Boat fleet http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

PhantomKira
09-13-2008, 08:58 AM
Having once taken a bomb hit on the foredeck off Newfoundland in a IXC and survived just fine sans gigantic scorch mark in the deck and some damage, I can vouch for the toughness of that boat. Of course the reason I got hit was that I was on the surface shooting it out, instead of doing what I should have been doing and diving. However, with the slower dive time, I think it wouldn't have mattered much.

Never played GWX, but in Stock + 1.4, I'd go for anything but the IX-D2, and that only because of the loss of torpedo glitch. Its dive time is also just at the edge of my tolerance. Keep in mind that the IIA has no range whatsoever, and for the range capability of a IID, you might as well get a VII and bring some extra torpedos along for the trip. The small boats do offer a bit of a challenge though, since you have to make every shot count.

Kielhauler1961
09-13-2008, 10:10 AM
Get one of these babies! Type DCCLXXVII. Talk about a super-mod...Tuddley3 has all the details... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk295/kielhauler/fsx2008-09-0819-44-26-251.jpg

MarkSynthesis
09-13-2008, 08:51 PM
Never played GWX, but in Stock + 1.4, I'd go for anything but the IX-D2, and that only because of the loss of torpedo glitch. Its dive time is also just at the edge of my tolerance. Keep in mind that the IIA has no range whatsoever, and for the range capability of a IID, you might as well get a VII and bring some extra torpedos along for the trip. The small boats do offer a bit of a challenge though, since you have to make every shot count.

The later versions (at least, all the ones I remember) correct the torpedo bug on the IXD/2 (I'm a big fan of sneaking Manhattan and out the Long Island Sound http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ), though with the sheer number of torpedoes on the IXD/2, you'll be hardpressed to test it.