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PRILLERS
11-26-2004, 04:45 AM
in il2 is fw a5 really a deadly plane, who knows how to ...
but why is so different in fb?? there is fw only a good target..
so where is historical truth? they did such a big mistake in il2 or in fb? fw is famous - thats means it must be really perfect designet. logical is - airplane like fw in forg. battles will be in reality never produced, because is turning whorse like a bomber..http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif so how was it really?

PRILLERS
11-26-2004, 04:45 AM
in il2 is fw a5 really a deadly plane, who knows how to ...
but why is so different in fb?? there is fw only a good target..
so where is historical truth? they did such a big mistake in il2 or in fb? fw is famous - thats means it must be really perfect designet. logical is - airplane like fw in forg. battles will be in reality never produced, because is turning whorse like a bomber..http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif so how was it really?

Ankanor
11-26-2004, 05:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PRILLERS:
in il2 is fw a5 really a deadly plane, who knows how to ...
but why is so different in fb?? there is fw only a good target..
so where is historical truth? they did such a big mistake in il2 or in fb? fw is famous - thats means it must be really perfect designet. logical is - airplane like fw in forg. battles will be in reality never produced, because is turning whorse like a bomber..http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif so how was it really? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I assume you play the FB 1.0 Version. This is something most of the FW Drivers wouldn't like to be remembered about. The FW190 in the 1.0 was, well, horrible. I strongly suggest you either spend the additional money and buy Aces Expansion Pack and patch it, or, patch your FB to 1.22 Version. You will be surprised to see how improved is the FW190. Just be careful, it stalls relatively easy if you are rough on the Joystick http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

MOhz
11-26-2004, 06:17 AM
There you are Ankanor, just wanted to tell you how I love the underside of your Fw!!

Ankanor
11-26-2004, 06:57 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gifThanks

Hunde_3.JG51
11-26-2004, 07:05 AM
The FW-190 is deadly in FB/AEP/PF if you know how to use it.

The FW-190 was one of the worst turning aircraft at sustained low speeds due to high wing loading so don't expect to out-turn anyone at low speeds. In game the FW-190 has excellent roll, firepower, high speed handling, etc., use those to your advantage. The FW-190A still does not have good acceleration (especially in the initial dive phase) nor does it have a good zoom climb. In real life these were extremely important as to how the FW-190 was flown. Admittedly in-game you are limited to more hit and run type tactics but it is still a very deadly aircraft that lets you escape trouble as well as any and is superior in the bounce. Don't expect to win many Hollywood style, twisitng and turning, dogfights in the FW-190.

Jaws2002
11-26-2004, 07:05 AM
I love the avatar more. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Jumoschwanz
11-26-2004, 09:10 PM
In the original Il2, which I still have installed and still fly on Hyperlobby fairly often, The FW190 flight model is screwy. It makes a great zoom and boomer but it also can be made to do funny and unnatural things. I think it was like this in some FB patches also.

Quite a few pilots in the original Il2 and some old patches of FB would "slow fight" in the fw190. They could stand the 190 on it's tail at low alt so it was like a helicopter, then fall backward, take a shot at thier pursuer and roll upright and continue on thier merry way 180 degrees from thier original direction of travel. all this would take place at just above ground level. They could fly the 190 around like it was a Feisler Storch. Not very realistic at all.

In reality the 190 was not good at low speeds. It was not good at low speeds at all, and had a very high speed for landing and take-off.
Those who flew the 190 at low speeds to take advantage of it's flawed FM in this sim always just struck me as arcade gaming kiddies. Those who learned to energy fight with it when this sim first came out three years ago can continue flying it as they always have.
I still think it's low speed FM is screwy though. You can skim along the ground with full flaps, the planes guns pointing at and strafing the ground while the plane itself travels level. Just seems weird.
I always thought the fw190 got the short end of the stick as far as it's flight model goes. Just never seemed to hold it's energy as well as most other planes in a zoom and boom manuever. It has it's great cannons and it's high speed control response as it's only pluses over opponents. Get slow in it with a good opponent on your six and you are a dead man.S!

Jumoschwanz