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ranma7
12-30-2003, 08:19 AM
New to flight sims and IL-2:FB, new to joysticks too.
I played a little, basically trying to take off, land and some manoeuvres.
I have a Saitek Cyborg Evo joystick, I know it's not the ideal for many of you, but I think is fine to start. I would like to know if there is a profile for this joystick.
If not, I would like to configure it myself, it has a lot of buttons to configure and I would like to know what is the "standard" way to configure them, I mean, maybe there is not a standard, but probably there are some functions that we want to have in the joystick because I'll have to use them a lot, right?
Thank you.

ranma7
12-30-2003, 08:19 AM
New to flight sims and IL-2:FB, new to joysticks too.
I played a little, basically trying to take off, land and some manoeuvres.
I have a Saitek Cyborg Evo joystick, I know it's not the ideal for many of you, but I think is fine to start. I would like to know if there is a profile for this joystick.
If not, I would like to configure it myself, it has a lot of buttons to configure and I would like to know what is the "standard" way to configure them, I mean, maybe there is not a standard, but probably there are some functions that we want to have in the joystick because I'll have to use them a lot, right?
Thank you.

blabla0001
12-30-2003, 08:31 AM
I have never used a profile and I only use the buttons on the stick itself.

I rather use the keys on my keyboard then the base buttons on the stick.

RxMan
12-30-2003, 08:35 AM
Recommend:
Views: I prefer the snap views, mostly forward. left, right, up, and combinations depending on the number of buttons/switches you have.
Flaps: these first two are most important, but of course you must be able to shoot, eventually.
Fire: I use trigger for all guns, when I get someone in front of me I want to throw everything at them: but I do have a seperate one for just MG, hardly ever use it.
Weapons: 1 for rockets, and 1 for bombs.
Padlock: enemy air, or closest enemy air, enemy ground, or closest enemy ground; if a 4 way switch use sideways for next/previous.
External: external to closest enemy air (the one on your six) I still can't fly in this mode but trying.

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Bearcat99
12-30-2003, 08:40 AM
Welcome aboard!!! If you have an evo I would suggest that you wait till the X45s go on sake and get one of them also. FB supports multiple sticks. The reason you would weant to have more than one is so that you can just push your keyboard underthe shelf.....having a Hands On Throttle And Stick (HOTAS) set up definitely ups the fun factor for this sim. You can get a refurbed X 45 for $39 here.. http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html or like I said you can wait till they go on sale. For the time being though...lets see the evo has lots of buttons if I am not mistaken so you might want to try New View on your hat switch.. someone on this forum has the link...what that will do is enable you to use your hat switch like a mouse for smooth panning back & forth. You also will want to have flaps (raise & lower), weps (1,2,3&4) on your stick and prop pitch at the very least. You might want to consider , untill you DO get another stick, mapping the shift &/or the CTRL key to one of the buttons and reassigning some commands to include those keys..like say... flaps raise f, flaps lwr v, prop pitch > CTRL+f pitch < ctrl v etc. By doing that you will give up one button but you will double the functionality of all your other buttons. You can basically take a stick with say 8 buttons and turn it into a 14 function stick. You can go into the HOTAS section of FB and re assign the keys to whatever you want and if you screw it up or you just arent happy with it you can reset it to the default and start from scratch. It is actually better to make your own profile that way you can work out whats best for you.
Good luck and have fun. There are a few essentials you will need if you dont have them and some of the links are in my sig. Check them out...

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Platypus_1.JaVA
12-30-2003, 08:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ranma7:
New to flight sims and IL-2:FB, new to joysticks too.
I played a little, basically trying to take off, land and some manoeuvres.
I have a Saitek Cyborg Evo joystick, I know it's not the ideal for many of you, but I think is fine to start. I would like to know if there is a profile for this joystick.
If not, I would like to configure it myself, it has a lot of buttons to configure and I would like to know what is the "standard" way to configure them, I mean, maybe there is not a standard, but probably there are some functions that we want to have in the joystick because I'll have to use them a lot, right?
Thank you.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Cyborg Evo is a top-notch stick. Especially considerred its price tag.

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TX-Zen
12-30-2003, 08:55 AM
S~ Ranma7,

Welcome to the forums and welcome to the game http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I don't use that particular joystick and so have no config file for it, but I can add some tips on what keys you will use alot in the game, though not perhaps where to put them on the stick.


'Look Up'
Probably the most important key I use is the 'look up' function. When used with your hat switch views, you can look backwards and then backwards + up at the same time, which is invaluable in a dogfight. Being able to pan around the sky with your hat and then look at the same view point but higher will keep you alert to potential bandits, increases your situational awareness and is a necessity in a close range fight. It's definately the key that I use more than anything else.



Flaps up/Flaps down.

Gunsight zoom in/out.

Map.

Radiator.

Prop Pitch.
(requires 2 buttons to turn on/off and 2 more to increase and decrease, or you can assign buttons to specific percentages)

Weapon 3 & 4 for bombs, rockets, torpedos and all the other air to ground ordinance. Depends on what you fly most...for fighters you may not need these bound to the joystick, but for the IL2, Stuka, FW190F8 and others you will use them religiously.


I'm sure that others will elaborate on what I listed (and probably be more specific) but one thing I would like to point out that is incredibly useful for the game, is the Belkin Nostromo left hand controller.

It's basically a small left hand keyboard-like device that you can bind keys to, including small macros.

I use it for FB and for a lot of other games since you can create profiles and use them for each game, all you do is switch profiles before you play the next game and all of your functions will work appropriately.

http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=&Section_Id=2071&pcount=&Product_Id=107727

For the money. I think it's the single most cost effective thing you can buy for gaming. I've had mine for over 2 years and it's still going strong.


S~! again and welcome the game.

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ranma7
12-30-2003, 09:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
You can get a refurbed X 45 for $39 here.. http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html or like I said you can wait till they go on sale.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ouch!!, I wanted this one when I bought it but it was a little expensive for me and thats why I bought the other one at that price, you should have told me one month ago!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I don't live in the US so it'll be a while until someone goes there and can bring me another one, anyway, I'm happy with the cyborg evo.

Thank you very much to all of you for the tips, I'll have them in mind when I configure my joystick.

And here it goes two more questions:

1. Bearcat99: what is the fourth link on your sig?, it's a comunity site or there is something to download there?

2. The gunsight seems a little futuristic, did that really existed??, I want to know how did it work, any references?

Thank you again.

Extreme_One
12-31-2003, 02:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ranma7:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bearcat99:
You can get a refurbed X 45 for $39 here.. http://store.yahoo.com/saitekusa/recprod.html or like I said you can wait till they go on sale.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ouch!!, I wanted this one when I bought it but it was a little expensive for me and thats why I bought the other one at that price, you should have told me one month ago!! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
I don't live in the US so it'll be a while until someone goes there and can bring me another one, anyway, I'm happy with the cyborg evo.

Thank you very much to all of you for the tips, I'll have them in mind when I configure my joystick.

And here it goes two more questions:

1. Bearcat99: what is the fourth link on your sig?, it's a comunity site or there is something to download there?

2. The gunsight seems a little futuristic, did that really existed??, I want to know how did it work, any references?

Thank you again.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
MUDMOVERS is a community site. An excellent place not only for Forgotten Battles but loads of other combat flight sims.
Although it's been a little 'quiet' lately...

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AlGroover
12-31-2003, 02:43 AM
Mapping your most useful functions to the stick is really just a matter of experimenting. You will probably find that this will vary slightly with the type of aircraft you are flying. No sense mapping all the multi engine stuff to a single engine fighter. One feature of the game I didn't notice for a while was that each pilot you create has their own key and button command assignments, so I have a different setup for fighter and ground attack aircraft.