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jolulure
04-12-2007, 08:12 AM
Hi http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Im currently flying with a Thrustmaster Top Gun Fox 2.

What joystick would be in the next step of the ladder? I was thinking about Saitek new Aviator. Is that one better than the Thrustmaster?

BTW: I hated Cyborg Evo cos it was everytime desconfiguring.

TgD Thunderbolt56
04-12-2007, 09:06 AM
Bite the bullet and get yourself either a CH Combatstick or CH Fighterstick and a set of CH Pro rudder pedals.

You'll never regret the purchase and will likely still be using them in your next 3 or 4 pc's (or more).

I can also highly recommend the Pro Throttle, but it's not as much a necessity for prop-sims as the stick and pedals.

Initially, it will seem like a frivolous and extravagant purchase, but when you consider the life-expectancy and precision, they become an excellent value.


TB

jolulure
04-12-2007, 10:00 AM
thanks.

do you think that Flightstick Pro is better than my Top gun Fox 2?

seems like a 2€ joystick http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Flightstick Pro (http://www.chproducts.com/retail/j_flight_pro.html)

flyingloon
04-13-2007, 04:30 AM
saitek's x-52 also has its fans around these parts, got one myself and can certainly recommend it.
from looking at that link, yeah it does look a bit um cheap... ain't what it looks like that's important though, it's whats on the inside. and the amoutn of positive sotries i've seen here it's probably better than the saitek, but couldn't say myself.

Wilburnator
04-13-2007, 02:33 PM
That CH Flighstick is decent... lacking in features, maybe, but certainly higher quality than the Thrustmaster stick. But if you look around you can get better prices than buying from CH directly. Here's a link to the CH Combat stick, for $79, $10 cheaper than that basic Flightstick if bought directly from the manufacturer-

http://www.headsetsetc.com/chcom568usb.html

I bought my CH gear from that site at a considerable savings over the list price, and they shipped very quickly. For a Fighterstick and Pro Pedals, $110 each from headsetsetc.com vs $150 each from direct from CH.

blit_ZEN
04-19-2007, 02:14 PM
i just got this complete saitek setup throttle stick & pedals for $160.03 w/ shipping. Seem like a deal u cant beat with a stick.

http://saitekusa.stores.yahoo.net/recprod.html

will arrive Friday & and will probably take 2 weeks to configure but at least I can stop spending more time looking at the keyboard than the screen.

jolulure
04-20-2007, 03:40 PM
thanks for the advice.

After long hours of surfing, ive found the following:

saitek x45 for 50€, almost like new (second hand)

ist that good? shall i buy it?

Dumbo_AK32nd
04-20-2007, 06:24 PM
I have to second TgD Thunderbolt56's CH recommendation.

I bought my Fighterstick/ProPedal combo back in 2004 and haven't looked back since. Not a single problem. Ever.

I love the Fighterstick because it gives you three separate "modes" to map. My first mode I have mapped with air-to-air combat commands...the second mode is for air-to-ground...and the third mode is reserved for general flight stuff (e.g., trim controls, landing gear, lights, canopy, tailhook, etc.).

At last count, I have 44 different IL-2 keyboard commands mapped to my Fighterstick across these three different "modes." I rarely have to touch the keyboard.

(It's even better for jet sims. In my Su-33 map for LO:MAC, I have a total of 62 different keyboard commands mapped!!!)

It's well worth the extra cash.

P.S. Not only that, but CH's customer service is top notch. A few months ago, I decided to finally update my copy of their Control Manager (the utility you use to do your mapping). I hadn't updated this ever and the version I was using was almost 3 years old. I ran into problems removing the old version of Control Manager prior to installing the new one, so I posted a HELP ME! message over on the "CH Hangar" forum and was promptly given the toll-free customer service to call. When I called them, I got through immediately, and one of their technicians spent about 30 minutes on the phone with me patiently talking me through the process of removing the problem files from my registry. I was up and running in no time!

-HH-Quazi
04-20-2007, 11:21 PM
The Saitek X45 is a good stick & HOTAS, but, it does have its' short coming. One is that it has a super stiff spring on the stick. Second it has a rocker on the throttle to operate the rudder. Two things about the rocker. First, if you don't have very large hands, it is very hard to reach. Second, it is really super sensitive. Yes, you can set the curve to help, but that only helps so much. Besides these two things, it is a great setup.

Keep a look out for the Saitek X52. It is allot better than the X45 imho. I have owned both and I like the X52 better.

Never had a CH setup. I hear they are very well built. Like built to last a lifetime. But I do not know the features of the setup.

jolulure
04-21-2007, 01:03 AM
thanks for your help.

the problem is my budget gets up to 60€. What is the best i can do with that apart of buying a joystick (im looking for a hotas or something similar)

Ive found the X45 for 50€ in online second hand shop in Spain.

Should i buy it? or should I buy Top Gun Afterburner?

thanks http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

-HH-Quazi
04-21-2007, 05:10 AM
The X45 mainly because of its' HOTAS. It has three modes and enough pots & buttons to map all your functions for flying this sim to your stick. You should never have to touch you keyboard again for anything to do with flying your aircraft once you install the software and map the stick.