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Feathered_IV
07-23-2006, 09:53 AM
He's complete cr*p.
All his songs make me want to kill myself.
Whimpering **** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Warrington_Wolf
07-23-2006, 10:21 AM
Gotta admit raaid is talking **** in his latest topic.
I don't usually like saying things like that but I feel I have to in this case.
I am a big fan of rock music and have CDs of many of the artists who have been accused of planting subliminal messages, and I have never wanted to kill myself or anyone else (actually Im listening to Black sabbeth now).
If Raaid wants to rant about artists that can be depressing then I encourage him to listen to The Smiths, Morrisey's solo stuff and Joy division to name a few.

Here are some links that Raaaid (or anyone else) on those artists Ive mentioned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smiths
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrisey
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_division

To raaid, its only a song mate lighten up.

Monty_Thrud
07-23-2006, 10:35 AM
His name is coc kney rhyming slang for... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif


Another band that gets up my nasal passage, is Coldplay, they've done a few good'uns but now its whimpering to the max

Ruy Horta
07-23-2006, 11:08 AM
I kind of like his melancholic sound, at least I bought the CD and never had any regrets about doing so.

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But I am kind of melancholic myself, so that may explain.

Nick_Toznost
07-23-2006, 11:10 AM
Coldplay managed to get away with blatantly ripping off Kraftwerk on their last album. That really annoyed me. Why?

I find Coldplay, Radiohead and other such whiny bands far more depressing than the Smiths or Joy Division. Their musical misery was so blatant that it's almost funny.

Throbbing Gristle. Now that's a depressing band.

James Blunt will be hopefully forgotten in a few years. I think his fan base is mostly made up of forty-something women who want to mother him.

Treetop64
07-23-2006, 11:13 AM
Sounds a lot like Papa Roach. He's another perpetual whiner:

"My parents were mean, an' my life sucks, an' I'm gonna kill myself! Waaaah!"

Puh-leeeze... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

DuxCorvan
07-23-2006, 11:55 AM
That hip-hop & rap are considered music made me lose faith on humankind. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

ploughman
07-23-2006, 11:59 AM
Yup. Civillisation definately took a left turn when it went hip-hop. Two thousand years from now hip-hop will be viewed as a crime on a par with the burning of the Library of Alexandria. Bling.

stathem
07-23-2006, 12:16 PM
What about Leonard Cohen? Many find his songs depressing but I find them kind of uplifting.

Then again I was raised on Joy Division so...

x6BL_Brando
07-23-2006, 12:20 PM
Some interesting facts (http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1305765,00.html) about Leonard "Bird on a wire" Cohen.

JG7_Rall
07-23-2006, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by Ploughman:
Yup. Civillisation definately took a left turn when it went hip-hop. Two thousand years from now hip-hop will be viewed as a crime on a par with the burning of the Library of Alexandria. Bling.

LOLOL!!! Good thing the world is going to end soon anyways.

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Scragbat
07-23-2006, 01:07 PM
When music became infected with hip hop/rap, it ceased to be music.

Why did mobile phone manufacturers decide to put mp3 players on mobile phones? We now have to suffer this **** on public transport. Do these kids think they are going to be discovered by some producer rapping along to their scratchy phones?

Warrington_Wolf
07-23-2006, 01:33 PM
I could rant all month about R&B but is one thing really bug me about it.
When the artists say they are from "Da streets" (notice that they cannot say the), Until I see pictures of Eminem, Snoop dog or Dr Dre selling The Big Issue I won't believe them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif.
It also seems that very few R&B artists can spell, one song title that I can recall is by some girl combo who did a song called stickwitu, it must be a japanese word because it sure as hell isn't English.

By the way, R&B stands for Rhythm and Blues, artists such as Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles are true R&B artists and their songs speak more truth and are far more enjoyable to listen to. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Jester_159th
07-23-2006, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
That hip-hop & rap are considered music made me lose faith on humankind. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

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Afterall, what do you get if you take RAP and put a C in front of it?

Coincidence? I doubt it.

LStarosta
07-23-2006, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by JG7_Rall:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ploughman:
Yup. Civillisation definately took a left turn when it went hip-hop. Two thousand years from now hip-hop will be viewed as a crime on a par with the burning of the Library of Alexandria. Bling.

LOLOL!!! Good thing the world is going to end soon anyways.

http://thumbs.photo.net/photo/1956368-sm.jpg </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Your last chance to be evacuated on the soul train before the earth is recycled!

Dew-Claw
07-23-2006, 02:25 PM
IMHO if a song, or video game, or movie, can make you want to kill, rob or commit suicide....
You are already in need of serious help.

ImpStarDuece
07-23-2006, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
That hip-hop & rap are considered music made me lose faith on humankind. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Go and listen to anything put out by Quannum Records: Blackalicious, Lyrics Born, Lateef the Truth Speaker, The Gift of Gab, Latryx and it'll change your mind http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif . Try some J-5, Sugar Hill Gang, Grand Master Flash and the Furious 5, Ugly Duckling for just how diverse 'conscious' hip hop can be.

Hip Hop/Rap has as many different 'schools' as rock&roll does. Some of it is inchoerent sh*te, some prepackaged generic ripoffs some of it is incredible lyrical wordplay and rythmic gymnastics mixed with amazing DJ'ing.

Kocur_
07-23-2006, 03:34 PM
Seeeeynsuht vershtect, sish veeee ain inzeeect... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

leitmotiv
07-23-2006, 03:39 PM
Try Anthony Blunt. Cheers, Guy Burgess

RCAF_Irish_403
07-23-2006, 03:57 PM
Too..much...Blunt...Turn..on...Devo

leitmotiv
07-23-2006, 04:05 PM
Try the Fibonaccis---L.A., New Wave, '80's, including berserk Korean valkyrie!

http://www.fibonaccis.com/index.php/music/fibs/the_fibonaccis/

P.S. I am not John Dentino---this is not spam!

rauparaha
07-23-2006, 04:19 PM
Can we all spare a thought for Syd Barrett.

Bobsqueek
07-23-2006, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by ImpStarDuece:
Sugar Hill Gang, Grand Master Flash and the Furious 5

Yes! give that man a cookie!

Waldo.Pepper
07-23-2006, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Dew-Claw:
IMHO if a song, or video game, or movie, can make you want to kill, rob or commit suicide....
You are already in need of serious help.

If music makes people 'do things' then why aren't the Austrian alps filled with people belting out the Sound of Music?

The idea is preposterous.

x6BL_Brando
07-23-2006, 05:13 PM
If music makes people 'do things' then why aren't the Austrian alps filled with people belting out the Sound of Music?

The idea is preposterous.


I dunno. We always had a joke line for SoM, which went..."the hills are alive with the sound of Spandaus...." and something that rhymed with von Trapp.

Lo & behold, that's my life. Shredded wings, and something that rhymes with von Trapp.

QED

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reverendkrv1972
07-23-2006, 05:37 PM
'Hip Hop/Rap has as many different 'schools' as rock&roll does. Some of it is inchoerent sh*te, some prepackaged generic ripoffs some of it is incredible lyrical wordplay and rythmic gymnastics mixed with amazing DJ'ing.'


....word

reverendkrv1972
07-23-2006, 05:38 PM
oh,and yes,James Blunt is depressing,as is Will Young,and a multitude of others http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Feathered_IV
07-23-2006, 07:25 PM
James Blunt is like Leo Sayer on valium. His lyrics are so horribly predictable, you already know what the next line will be before you've even suffered it http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif .

NAFP_supah
07-24-2006, 12:31 AM
I never trusted james blunt, the guy released a CD with about 10 songs and all of them appear to be about a girlfriend of his dying. Now one dead girlfriend is an accident, two is starting to look suspicious but 10 dead girlfriends? Someone should really look into this!

Feathered_IV
07-24-2006, 03:47 AM
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cmw1980
07-24-2006, 03:58 AM
I thought i was the only blunt/coldplay hater! wow, thank ####! I think they should grow up and listen to Nick Cave, or John Lee ****** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif. p.s, is anyone else p#ssed off by that awful remix of the Nina Simone tune? I think she'll be turning in her grave, God bless her http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif
Real shame about Syd Barret b.t.w, hope he's in peace now - such a talented crazy musician http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/sleepzzz.gif

Badsight-
07-24-2006, 04:00 AM
listening to James Blunt , i want to take him out back with my rifle & put the poor thing out of its misery . . . . .

Ruy Horta
07-24-2006, 10:58 AM
I like Coldplay more than Blunt.

I even like Keane.

But I also like Rammstein and lately Jack Johnson.

Music taste can be broad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

I_KG100_Prien
07-24-2006, 11:48 AM
Heh for those of you who aren't big fans of R&B (Which I'm not)..

Good old Pablo Francisco hits it home in his skit talking about the genre of music, and how basically.. It's all the same Sh*t

Clicky (http://www.pablofrancisco.com/video/brothers_write_songs.wmv)

DuxCorvan
07-24-2006, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by reverendkrv1972:
'Hip Hop/Rap has as many different 'schools' as rock&roll does.

Hip hop never graduated at any school.


Some of it is inchoerent sh*te, some prepackaged generic ripoffs some of it is incredible lyrical wordplay and rythmic gymnastics mixed with amazing DJ'ing.'


Yeh, just like porn movies. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I don't despise the value of some hip hop as a vehicle for lyric talent or as a way of popular expression.

It's only that... rap is not music. Just a monotone recitation over an often unbearable 'ostinato' rythmic base. And for non-native English speakers, is just a noisy and obnoxious mantra, not better than hearing two 'hooligans' fighting about a soccer match.

About the quality of its 'urban poetry', I remember a scene of a movie -don't remember which- where someone puts on a car radio and the news are heard: "Two shot dead in the back part of a bus. Woman raped in an alley is found later in a pool of blood. Human head in the garbage..." and someone says: "What's this? Have they finally taken off all the music from rap?" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

SeaNorris
07-24-2006, 01:24 PM
Coldplay depresses me with such ease it's unbearable.

Pass the gun....

Jester_159th
07-24-2006, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
... rap is not music. Just a monotone recitation over an often unbearable 'ostinato' rythmic base. And for non-native English speakers, is just a noisy and obnoxious mantra.........

It sounds like that to me as well.....And I AM a native English speaker!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

ImpStarDuece
07-24-2006, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by reverendkrv1972:
'Hip Hop/Rap has as many different 'schools' as rock&roll does.

Hip hop never graduated at any school.


Some of it is inchoerent sh*te, some prepackaged generic ripoffs some of it is incredible lyrical wordplay and rythmic gymnastics mixed with amazing DJ'ing.'


Yeh, just like porn movies. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I don't despise the value of some hip hop as a vehicle for lyric talent or as a way of popular expression.

It's only that... rap is not music. Just a monotone recitation over an often unbearable 'ostinato' rythmic base. And for non-native English speakers, is just a noisy and obnoxious mantra, not better than hearing two 'hooligans' fighting about a soccer match.

About the quality of its 'urban poetry', I remember a scene of a movie -don't remember which- where someone puts on a car radio and the news are heard: "Two shot dead in the back part of a bus. Woman raped in an alley is found later in a pool of blood. Human head in the garbage..." and someone says: "What's this? Have they finally taken off all the music from rap?" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

When a rap album features poetry by Beat-poet Saul Williams, I tend to disagree with you.

"Inner breathlessness, outer restlessness
By the time I caught up to freedom I was out of breath
Grandma asked me what I'm running for
I guess I'm out for the same thing the sun is sunning for
What mothers birth their youngens for
And some say Jesus coming for
For all I know the earth is spinning slow
Suns at half mast 'cause masses ain't aglow
On bended knee, prostrate before an altered tree
I've made the forest suit me
Tables and chairs
Papers and prayers
Matter versus spirit
A metal ladder
A wooden cross
A plastic bottle of water
A mandala encased in glass
A spirit encased in flesh
Sound from shaped hollows
The thickest of mucus released from heightened passion
A man that cries in his sleep
A truth that has gone out of fashion
A mode of expression
A paint splattered wall
A carton of cigarettes
A bouquet of corpses
A dying forest
A nurtured garden
A privatized prison
A candle with a broken wick
A puddle that reflects the sun
A piece of paper with my name on it
I'm surrounded
I surrender
All
All that I am I have been
All I have been has been a long time coming
I am becoming all that I am
The spittle that surrounds the mouth-piece of the flute
Unheard, yet felt
A gathered wetness
A quiet moisture
Sound trapped in a bubble
Released into wind
Wind fellows and land merchants
We are history's detergent
Water soluble, light particles, articles of cleansing breath
Articles amending death
These words are not tools of communication
They are shards of metal
Dropped from eight story windows
They are waterfalls and gas leaks
Aged thoughts rolled in tobacco leaf
The tools of a trade
Barbers barred, barred of barters
Catch phrases and misunderstandings
But they are not what I feel when I am alone
Surrounded by everything and nothing
And there isn't a word or phrase to be caught
A verse to be recited
A man to de-fill my being in those moments
I am blankness, the contained center of an O
The pyramidic containment of an A
I stand in the middle of all that I have learned
All that I have memorized
All that I've known by heart
Unable to reach any of it
There is no sadness
There is no bliss
It is a forgotten memory
A memorable escape route that only is found by not looking
There, in the spine of the dictionary the words are worthless
They are a mere weight pressing against my thoughtlessness
But then, who else can speak of thoughtlessness with such confidence
Who else has learned to sling these ancient ideas
like dead rats held by their tails
so as not to infect this newly oiled skin
I can think of nothing heavier than an airplane
I can think of no greater conglomerate of steel and metal
I can think of nothing less likely to fly
There are no wings more weighted
I too have felt a heaviness
The stare of man guessing at my being
Yes I am homeless
A homeless man making offerings to the after-future
Sculpting rubber tree forests out of worn tires and shoe soles
A nation unified in exhale
A cloud of smoke
A native pipe ceremony
All the gathered cigarette butts piled in heaps
Snow covered mountains
Lipsticks smeared and shriveled
Offerings to an afterworld
Tattoo guns and plastic wrappers
Broken zippers and dead eyed dolls
It's all overwhelming me, oak and elming me
I have seeded a forest of myself
Little books from tall trees
It matters not what this paper be made of
Give me notebooks made of human flesh
Dried on steel hooks and nooses
Make uses of use, uses of us
It's all overwhelming me, oak and elming me
I have seeded a forest of myself
Little books from tall trees
On bended knee
Prostrate before an altered tree
I've made the forest suit me
Tables and chairs
Papers and prayers
Matter vs. spirit, through meditation
I program my heart to beat breakbeats and hum basslines on exhalation"

I grew up listening to the great rock music of the 60's and 70's. Guys like Bowie, Hendrix, Jagger and Wilson. But you wouldn't associate them in the same breath with bands like Pantera, White Zombie or *gasp* Lordi, who also just happen to fall under the term 'rock and roll'.

The same thing is true of hip hop. I wouldn't put the Sugar Hill Gang, Gift of Gab or J-5 in the same category as 50 Cent or Sean "P.Diddy" (or whatever the hell he calls himself) Combs, but they still fit under the same generic heading of 'hip hop'

stathem
07-25-2006, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:

It's only that... rap is not music. Just a monotone recitation over an often unbearable 'ostinato' rythmic base. And for non-native English speakers, is just a noisy and obnoxious mantra, not better than hearing two 'hooligans' fighting about a soccer match.

I can understand your point about non-native English speakers, but...Some of my favourite rap tracks are sung in Spanish (or some Latin American variant thereof) or French, and I unfortunatly understand little of either. But I do love the musical form it takes, like another instrument in an instrumental track.


Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
About the quality of its 'urban poetry', I remember a scene of a movie -don't remember which- where someone puts on a car radio and the news are heard: "Two shot dead in the back part of a bus. Woman raped in an alley is found later in a pool of blood. Human head in the garbage..." and someone says: "What's this? Have they finally taken off all the music from rap?" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

Well, yes but.. what ISD says. Compare and contrast 'The Message' with 'Ball of Confusion' by The Temptations with 'Ghost Town' by The Specials with 'Town called Malice' by The Jam.

Social statements, all valid.

Philipscdrw
07-25-2006, 05:15 AM
http://weirdal.com/home.htm - click on any of the many links saying 'here'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPzaw5kfIm0

For all you Blunty parody needs!

And in a similar vein,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGGxBPSQRX8

Capt.England
07-25-2006, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
He's complete cr*p.
All his songs make me want to kill myself.
Whimpering **** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

Listen to him on the hour, every hour on Leicester Sound FM. Lets just say that a city in the Middle East is just crying to have him in concert right now! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

Capt.England
07-25-2006, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by Dew-Claw:
IMHO if a song, or video game, or movie, can make you want to kill, rob or commit suicide....
You are already in need of serious help.

Come and listen to Leicester Sound all day! THEN tell me I need serious help!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Kocur_
07-25-2006, 02:28 PM
All you need then is to get youself a PERFECT Blunt-antidote (use everytime you get blunted accidentally):
"Te Quiero Puta" by Rammstein http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

Swivet
07-25-2006, 03:07 PM
He's complete cr*p.
All his songs make me want to kill myself.
Whimpering **** http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif



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Your, beautiful, Your beautiful,your beautiful..If i hear that song one more time!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif
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Viper2005_
07-25-2006, 03:17 PM
You guys just need to accept that the majority of modern pop is pointless.

Buy some good LPs, and a decent deck. Then turn up the volume and allow your neighbours to benefit from real music.

I suggest (in no particular order) AC/DC, Led Zeppelin, Guns 'N Roses, Queen, Jimi Hendrix, Cream, ZZ Top, The Who, etc. etc.