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XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 04:17 AM
it goes down too fast without any leaks! i cant do half of the missions because i use up half of my fuel in 119 km (200 L) out of 400. does anyone else have this prob, is it a bug?. ever since 1.1b
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XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 04:17 AM
it goes down too fast without any leaks! i cant do half of the missions because i use up half of my fuel in 119 km (200 L) out of 400. does anyone else have this prob, is it a bug?. ever since 1.1b
lou69

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XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 04:30 AM
109 wasnt known of good fuel endurance, was it? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Try to use lower throttle to get better fuel economy.

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 05:00 AM
The 109 was considered a short-range fighter anyway. During the BoB,after crossing the Channel 109s could only fight for about 10 minutes before turning back in fear of running out of fuel over the Channel. This left the Luftwaffe bombers at the mercy of the RAF...

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XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 05:43 PM
ladoga wrote:
- 109 wasnt known of good fuel endurance, was it? http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
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- Try to use lower throttle to get better fuel
- economy.
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HE'S right. Lean out the mixture to 80% for cruise. Real planes use varying mixtures to suit the preformance needed.

An Example is a light plane uses full rich for take off to use the fuel to cool the engine(s) against detonation and insure the engine is getting all the fuel it needs, After that it is very often cut back to 60-80% For curise to get range depending on the plane/engine combination and how fast the piolts needs to go.

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XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 06:34 PM
109 has auto mixture and prop-pitch...

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 06:38 PM
mr_Decent wrote:
- 109 has auto mixture and prop-pitch...



SRy, hardly fly german junk, mostly Russian and US junk. Still it applies to the others that can do CEM

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XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 06:41 PM
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- SRy, hardly fly german junk, mostly Russian and US
- junk. Still it applies to the others that can do CEM


Indeed...

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 09:05 PM
I don't have exact figures in front of me, but I believe the later model Me109's (109G2 and up) had around 60minutes worth of fuel at cruise settings (say '40%-60% power' in FB lingo), and don't forget that combat power increases fuel usage a LOT, so when you get in a fight, expect that guage to start dropping rapidly. In my experience, and IMHO, the fuel useage seems reasonable.

On a side note, I've noticed the fuel usage in the FW190A-8 is considerably higher than the FW190A-4, which seems very reasonable as I believe they carry very similar fuel loads and engines, while delivering more horsepower in the later models.

XyZspineZyX
09-20-2003, 09:15 PM
/me strokey 120%mix setting /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
ye the 109 had very lil fuel, spitfire wasnt great but didnt matter /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
i think alot of germans got it on way back, low on fuel ammo, maybe some damage
czech guy did it alot by himself /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 02:36 AM
the Bf109 had about 700 kilometers autonomy, that is a little under two hours of flight at economic cruise speed...

while the game reflect perfectly this range (i tried /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ), the problem most players encounter is that they are not used to fly economically, so they burn their fuel much faster than they should...

as a rule of thumb, you should substract half an hour of flying time for each encounter you make...

The other problem you can encounter is that in campaigns, the mission is too long, and then you'll have a fuel problem... Don't happen too often, but it happened me a couple of times... It can happen sometime because the mission isn't programmed to be performed at economic cruise speed...

But i can assure you that the Bf109 we have in game have exactly the right amount of fuel... And that, if you fly it with care, you can obtain the real fly time without problem...

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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:00 AM
DB605A has a fuel cosumption of 480l/h at max setting. An Allison producing slightly less power will consume 640l/h, and a Merlin 720l/h. Start thinking about Bf-109 as an fuel efficient plane.

Internal fuel capacity was not the smallest either: Bf-109 had 106 US gall of fuel, P-39Q had 87 US gall and Spitfire had 102 US gall. P-39 had a very limited ability to use emergency power, for example at 25% fuel load by the time you see the Overheat warning your should be out of fuel (take-off plus 5 min of 110% power should exhaust all the fuel in a P-39 if 25% fuel is used).

But again in FB the less fuel efficient plane is Bf-109.


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XyZspineZyX
09-21-2003, 03:46 AM
Huckebein_FW wrote:
- DB605A has a fuel cosumption of 480l/h at max
- setting. An Allison producing slightly less power
- will consume 640l/h, and a Merlin 720l/h. Start
- thinking about Bf-109 as an fuel efficient plane.


Where do you find this data dude? Are you making an argument, or just stating what you feel is the final answer, to be taken at face value without any evidence??

You have not stated power output, and associated fuel type and boost. What specifically to you mean by max setting for each type?

I would love to see how you came to your conclusion.



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