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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 02:52 PM
Just wondering if any part of X45 joystick and throttle make for good throttle pitch or are mapping the keys to the keyboard still the best option.

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 02:52 PM
Just wondering if any part of X45 joystick and throttle make for good throttle pitch or are mapping the keys to the keyboard still the best option.

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 03:07 PM
Hi charlie.

I have mapped prop pitch to one of the rotaries on the X45!

Also mapped flaps to the 'rudder' rocker (you need to set up three bands on it).

Bearcat99 has a profile on:

http://www.geocities.com/rt_bearcat

This is for a combination of X45, MSFFB2 and CH Pro USB pedals.

But can be edited!

Bearcat will post here soon no doubt! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif (Hi Bearcat!).

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 03:09 PM
Try using throttle's rotary control for prop pitch, I use it in my X36 and like it a lot. Much easier than playing with buttons.

XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 03:14 PM
Jellis wrote:
- Try using throttle's rotary control for prop pitch,
- I use it in my X36 and like it a lot. Much easier
- than playing with buttons.
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Agreed! I've elevator trim on the top rotary of my X45, and prop pitch on the lower. So much easier to control throttle and pitch with the same hand, at the same time.
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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 04:57 PM
My X-45 setup:

Throttle top rotary = rudder trim
Throttle side rotary = prop pitch
Aux switch = FOV
fire D = toggle gunsight/non-gunsight view
Top stick hat: left/right=mixture, up/down=pitch trim
Bottom stick hat = "as mouse" (Dhauzimmer 0wnz j00)
Silly **** on the throttle = i don't use it coz it's fneb.

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08-27-2003, 05:00 PM
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XyZspineZyX
08-27-2003, 05:33 PM
I use the mouse POV for my prop pitch and mixture settings. The rotaries for my elevator and alieron trim.
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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 12:12 AM
Baloban wrote:
- My X-45 setup:
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- Silly **** on the throttle = i don't use it
- coz it's fneb.
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Agreed, a fairly odd cl(b)it but I have it programmed for

Up = Centre view (I am using TrackIR and occasionally I lose centre)
Right = Centre aileron trim
Left = Centre rudder trim
Down = nothing yet

I have aileron and rudder trim mapped to different hats, and find the need to re-center them only very infrequently. However the redundant 'mouse' wiggler on the throttle does come in useful sometimes.
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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 12:20 AM
Baloban wrote:
- My X-45 setup:
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- Throttle top rotary = rudder trim
- Throttle side rotary = prop pitch

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- Silly **** on the throttle = i don't use it
- coz it's fneb.


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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 12:37 AM
I just use auto except on Bf 109E's. So I left the prop pitch on keyboard. My X-45 is set up as

Throttle:
Top rotory = flaps
bottom rotory = wheel brakes
Front hat = field of view (close, normal, far, gunsight toggle)
rear hat = elevator and rudder trim
fire D = Cannons
little button next to rear hat = auto prop on/off
rest unassigned.

Stick:
Hat 1 is broken
Hat 2 = pan
trigger = MG's
fire A = rockets
fire B = bombs
fire C = cycle radiator
fire button with safety = dive breaks

I think that is everything.

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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 01:06 AM
Ive been using the following for a while now and find it pretty nice:

Throttle:
Top hat up and down=flaps Side to side=enemy/friendly view
shifted = views(outside, inside, flyby etc)
Mouse hat up and down = RW press to talk, side to side=mix
Top rotary = elevator trim
Bottom rotary = prop pitch
Rocker = rudder
Big Orange button=WEP shifted=radiator cycle

Stick:
Bottom hat=forward snap views
shifted=mouse movement
Top hat=backward snap views
shifted=smoke,divebreak, lights

Mode 1 for fighter
Mode 2 for takeoff/landing
Mode 3 for bomber/jabo

All the rest of the buttons are set to different things depending on the mode Im in. I dont need the keyboard at all accept to type and communicate with ai. Ive been meaning to revise some buttons because I dont use them much, but I am so used to this setup I dont think I want to.


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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 03:16 AM
B16Enk wrote:
Hi charlie.
I have mapped prop pitch to one of the rotaries on the X45!
Also mapped flaps to the 'rudder' rocker (you need to set up three bands on it).
Bearcat99 has a profile on:
http://www.geocities.com/rt_bearcat ( <A HREF=)This" target=_blank>http://www.geocities.com/rt_bearcatThis</a> is for a combination of X45, MSFFB2 and CH Pro USB pedals.
But can be edited!
Bearcat will post here soon no doubt! (Hi Bearcat!).

Hiya Enk!!!


Baloban wrote:
- My X-45 setup:
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- Throttle top rotary = rudder trim
- Throttle side rotary = prop pitch
- Aux switch = FOV
- fire D = toggle gunsight/non-gunsight view
- Top stick hat: left/right=mixture, up/down=pitch
- trim
- Bottom stick hat = "as mouse" (Dhauzimmer 0wnz j00)
- Silly **** on the throttle = i don't use it
- coz it's fneb.


I use that silly little thing for shift/ctrl. I have my prop pitch on the slider of my MSFFB stick. It is a little more work but it adds to my immersion factor since i have to move my hands alittle more. My MS hat switch is mapped F1 12O'clock, F3 3O'clock, F9 (pan to center) 6'Oclock, F2 9 O'clock. Using the little black button for ctrl/shift (depepnding on mode) enables me to use those keys in different combos (example shift F1, Ctrl/shift F2) for different views. My rudder trim is on the twist handle of the MS stick. Mixture +/- is on buttons 7&8 of the MS stick. Supercharger +/- is on buttons 5&6 of the MS stick. Guns,rockets,cannon & bombs are on 1,2,3 &4 of the MS stick. On the X45 throttle I have aileron trim on the top rotary, elevator trim on the bottom rotary, flaps are on the rudder rocker (set up as a 3 way switch like Enk said....L=lower flaps, center is depress. R=raise flaps. Aux button is gunsight,normal & wide view. The d button is set for map/quick track record/radiator. The X45 stick is set as follows....Left hat...(both hats set as a 4way hat at 12,3,6&9 O'clock) Nav, landing & cockpit lights...6 O'clok postition is wingtip smoke. Right hat from 9 to 6 is....manual gear raise,gear auto,manual gear lower & tailwheel lock. Button A is auto pilot, B is level auto pilot, trigger on X45 stick is drop tanks, red button in front of stick is engine start, red lit fire button is bailout. The orange mouse is my POV.... I use CH pedals for rudder control. The only modes I ue are on the D button and the black C thingy there.. I am sure if I thought about it i could probably come up with something else but thats all I need for now. I want to try to set up a profile for multi engined planes using the mod switch. Dont forget with the X45 you have not only modes 1,2 & 3 but also modes 1-3 +pinkie switch making 6 modes in all. More programability than most sims can even support...with the exception maybe of LOMAC or something like it.

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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 08:05 AM
Odd, I've never been able to assign the top throttle rotary to anything - on any of my x45s.

Wonder what I'm doing wrong?





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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 08:25 AM
Yeah, MD, go to the saitek forums and post about your busted hat switch. They are really good about stuff like that and will usually send you a new one, sometimes even if its out of warrantee, but dont tell them I said that/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 08:28 AM
GR142_Astro wrote:
- Odd, I've never been able to assign the top throttle
- rotary to anything - on any of my x45s.
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- Wonder what I'm doing wrong?
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Your rotary might be dead. What kind of drivers are you using? I use the beta drivers from Saitek, they work great once you get the hang of programming them. Also, I assume that you use the HOTAS setup in IL2 to configure your rotary, correct?

Back to the question asked: I use the top rotary on the throttle for prop pitch, the thumb rotary for elevator trim. I also found it useful to go into the con.ini file and teak my settings a bit. Default is 0, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 100, 0. I found that the wheels are a bit sensitive for my liking in that configuration, so I set mine for a stepped value. 0, 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70. 80, 90, 100, 0. I dont quite remember which axis input it was YX or something like that, but it helped a bunch on elevator trim to get a more precise trim line while flying. Try it and see if you like it.

XyZspineZyX
08-28-2003, 10:57 AM
GR142_Astro wrote:
- Odd, I've never been able to assign the top throttle
- rotary to anything - on any of my x45s.
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- Wonder what I'm doing wrong?
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You might want to have a look at this thread.
http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_ts&id=zwkbk
Are you running Windows 98?
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