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shc89
09-04-2008, 10:58 AM
First of all hello to all members of the forum. I finally bought an IL-2 pack with all 5 games and a good joystick with throttle, so now I have everything to start playing IL-2 seriously, something I planned for a long time, but always delayed. I did some researching on my own, and practiced dogfighting on quick mission builder. I do have a feel for moving the aircraft since I started playing sims long time ago. I started with Novalogics Mig-29 Fulcrum and F-16, then moved to Falcon 4 and Lock on, but I never mastered any of these games completely.

I'm searching for some good manuals on flying the aircraft in Il-2, not the most basic stuff since I know it, but the more complicated and in-depth things.

I'd like to know, as a beginner which aircraft should I start learning to master? I read at one guide that it should be La-5 or Bf-109 since they are pretty easy to fly and dont stall too easily.

I'd also like to learn what are the cornering speeds for certain aircraft, so I could dogfight more effectively.

Where can I get the Saitek X52 Pro profiles for Il-2? I downloaded one from the Saiteks official site but it doesnt work( and I thought it wont work since it says X-52 profiles,not X-52 Pro on the Saiteks site).

Are there any squadrons in the community that allow new players to join and train with them and get some kind of instructions ?

Sorry for bothering with questions you probably heard many times ago. I'm glad to be part of the community and hope I'll become useful member, not only a question-asking but also a question-answering one. Thanks in advance for your support.

Aaron_GT
09-04-2008, 01:18 PM
There are a few places you can get them.

For RAF types you can get copies of the original pilot's notes.

Zeno's site has all sort of stuff.

And there is a site (can't remember the URL) that sells PDFs of pilot notes but offers low resolution samples.

jayhall0315
09-04-2008, 01:34 PM
Welcome to the zoo !

Essential reading, would include:

The Nugget's Guide: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/9121094645

The Newbie's Guide to IL2 Online Dogfighting: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/2111070776

Since you already have much previous flight experience, check this: http://web.comhem.se/~u85627360/ (http://web.comhem.se/%7Eu85627360/)

And be sure to look at the links in Bearcat's signature (the Nugget's Guide above), he has dozens of links there.

More than enough reading to occupy you for several weeks. ... And there are no 'best' aircraft to start learning with. If you want to practice on open cockpit servers at low altitude, then look at the La-7, I-185 M-71 or the Spit 25 lbs. If you want to practice and play on more realistic closed cockpit servers then start with the Bf 109 G2 and progress to the FW 190 or P-51 Mustang/F4U Corsair. For IL2 airframe comparisons, google the program IL2 Compare. A little bit off in its data, but very useful none the less.
As for squads, Head Hunters (HH), Merc, RCAF, etc ... will all let you fly with them and learn from them, without making you become a member.

Cheers,
Jay

P.FunkAdelic
09-04-2008, 01:55 PM
I believe that Mission4Today has x52 profiles. I didn't bother, too much fun making my own profile. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Stingray333
09-04-2008, 03:26 PM
Yo,

Google for the free e-book called In Pursuit, its got a lot of info.

As for IL-2 profiles for the X-52, I'd recommend you make your own for a few reason: first of all, since many of the commands you will need are not by default assigned keystrokes in IL-2, so a profile already made has to either provide the config of the keyboard bindings, or you gotta put them in yourself. Second, the SST programming profile is not that difficult to use, making your own profile really doesn't take that long, and third reason: you will get a profile directly tailored to yourself, rather than adapting your flying style or preferences to someone elses profile.

I've written a rather long post on setting up the X-52 for Il-2 in this thread: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/6921010486

I think your choice of the 109 to learn first is a good one: it has auto prop pitch and mixture, performs well, is fairly forgiving when you fly it, has a good armament, and in the right hands it is deadly!

Stingray

Bearcat99
09-04-2008, 09:07 PM
IN Pusuit is also linked in the Essentials Thread and the Nugget's Guide.

shc89
09-05-2008, 10:37 AM
Thanks a lot for help, I'll read the guides ASAP and start practicing online instead of playing against the computer. And Stingray, I wondered what is so good about keybinding and setting up the joystick using the SST software instead of in game setup. I didn't even know about the modes feature. It really makes it a true HOTAS, with no need for even touching the keyboard. Good to know about that feature.

What do I need to do to get ready to fly online, download the newest patch and hyperlobby, and thats all ?