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lbuchele
11-18-2004, 05:39 AM
How well GeForce 6600GT performs in PF?
I have seen very good reviews about this card, it costs 200 bucks and seems to delivery very good FPS in modern games.
Is anybody using it to play PF?

lbuchele
11-18-2004, 05:39 AM
How well GeForce 6600GT performs in PF?
I have seen very good reviews about this card, it costs 200 bucks and seems to delivery very good FPS in modern games.
Is anybody using it to play PF?

lbuchele
11-19-2004, 10:45 AM
Anybody?

MiszaNC
11-19-2004, 11:58 AM
Ibuchele, I have already asked about 6600GT and have to straight answer. Looks like nobody use that card, yet.

lbuchele
11-19-2004, 05:47 PM
Thanks for your reply,MiszaNC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

MiszaNC
11-19-2004, 06:35 PM
Well looks like we will be the first who dare to try this new card!
Good luck http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Rakugi
11-20-2004, 07:02 PM
Salutations,

Those that push the threshold of technology are a lonely few. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

roybaty
11-20-2004, 07:18 PM
I'll let ya know next weekend, just ordered the card and a new MB (A7N8X-X) today http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif. I had a weak moment while "window shopping" at neweggs website http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

I'm not expecting miracles because this is a modest upgrade (still using the AMD XP2000 Chip @ 1.6Ghz). I will probably get an XP3200 on Ebay in the coming months to round out the deal. Not bleeding edge, but it'll do for now.

ZG77_Nagual
11-21-2004, 08:31 AM
I have this card. It quite rocks. I have it in an abit aa8 pcx board with a 3 gig prescott and two gig of ddr2. I used luckyboys 6800gt settings - but use water and trees at 0 because I like high frame rates. currently 4xaa no as. I replaced a 9800pro clocked to 411/365 on a p4c running at 3.4gig. The 6800gt on the 3.0 gig is considerably faster - I'd say as much as 30%. Basically I wanted to get into a pci express system and wanted at least the same performance as with my 875p system

lbuchele
11-21-2004, 09:48 AM
Hi, nagual, good to see your answer.
Can tou say something about the graphic quality and mean frame rates with your settings?
Thank you.

Doctor_Feelgood
11-21-2004, 10:04 AM
i know the 6800gt is more expensive, but there's a huge difference between it and the 6600. i recommend you wait and get the 6800gt.

lbuchele
11-21-2004, 01:11 PM
Well, the 6600GT here in Brazil is about U$280,00. The 6800 GT , U$550,00.
It´s a lot of a diference. Besides, the tomshardware site tested it and the speed seems to be only 10-15% less of a 6800 standardt.
Maybe this card can be the best mid-price VGA at the moment.
I only need to find a good PCI-E MOBO for AMD 64.

fordfan25
11-21-2004, 02:59 PM
im also thinking of geting the 6600gt now that its in agp. from all the benchs iv seen its about the same as a 6800 non gt and the x700xt. the x700xt is just slightly faster in most of the bench mark scores like HL2 and doom3 ect mostly when enabling AA and at super high res. i just cant see paying 400 to 500 dollers for a card that will be out classed a year or two by a 200 midrange car. when i bought my 9500pro it was about 200$ two or three years ago. the 9700pro was about 400$ and the 9800pro was about 450 to 500. now there being out classed by 200 doller midrangers. maby if i had pleanty of cash and a large monitor were id have to play at real high res and AA then i gusse i could see geting one of the high end cards. of course thats just my take on it.

ZG77_Nagual
11-21-2004, 03:55 PM
with 4xaa I average about 42 fps in the black death track - perfect settings. Online - depending on the map - between 47 and 67 so far - also in perfect mode. It is definitely faster than my oc'd 9800 pro was. I got it as an entry into pcixpress - the card is actually faster than I was expecting. Image quality is excellent and play is very smooth. I really hasn't much competition as a pci express card in this price range. The x700 seems problematic from what I've read. I've allways had ati cards until this one. Be sure and use coolbits to overclock it.

FYI with what they call '2xq' aa and 2x as avg frames go to 44 in the BD track - with 4x and 2x they drop to 39. All that is at 1024x768.

Frankly I find it hard to believe and will be testing this against a comparable agp system with a 9800xt overclocked in a week or so.

BigKahuna_GS
11-21-2004, 08:42 PM
S!

Very interesting Nagual. What about interlacing ?

Two PCI-Express 6600 256mb cards ran together in series could be quite a set up. I wonder if anyone has this set up yet ?



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lbuchele
11-22-2004, 04:44 AM
No, people are just starting to using it, single mode.
But I guess that SLI will surpass any VGA we have in this moment...

ZG77_Nagual
11-22-2004, 08:24 AM
BigK - not sure what you mean. Are you referring to the problem where the screen gets that nasty look with horizontal lines across every few pixels? I used to get that occassionally on my ati card - seemed connected with using the tv output - but occassionally for some reason I'd have to change resolution to get image quality back. No such probs on this card.

Asus has an sli board out for amd processors - tempting.

I think the prices on the top end cards are absurd - but their excellent performance has boosted the midrange.

ZG77_Nagual
11-22-2004, 01:05 PM
Okay, I put together the following agp system

Abit ic7g
p4 2.6c@3.2
2 gig ddr - dual channel
agp 9800xt

vs
ABit aa8
p4 3.0e@3.3
2gig ddr2
gf6600gt

First off - the 6600gt is not very tolerant of overclocking. I very quickly get different artifacts depending on if it is the ram or gpu oc'd. I very ocassionally see some sort of display anomaly in normal play - maybe once every couple days and just a flash. There is one persistant problem with the 6600gt - some ground objects have white shadows. This has been reported but no solution yet. (driver issue I'd imagine)

The 6600gt frame rates were taken on a system with onboard audio turned off and an audigy gamer installed.

With identical settings but using ONBOARD AUDIO the 9800 pro gets 46-47fps where the 6600gt gets 44. The frame rates for the 6600gt are not affected when the cpu is overclocked to 3.3gig.
With onboard audio disabled the 9800xt 50.

The 9800 pro is oc'd to 441/369 and has an additional fan screwed over the original. The 6600gt is as high as it will go without adding ramsinks etc. Just using the ATI auto overclocking feature the 9800xt still beats out the 6600gt by a few frames.

DOH - I'm running the 9800xt at 4xaa and 2xaf

apples to apples

6600gt 9800xt
2xq 2x 44 2x 2x 48
4x 2x 39 4x 2x 46

Interesting. I assume the xt would gain more if it had an audigy card onboard.

PhoenixDU25
11-22-2004, 03:03 PM
I have a 6600GT on a P43.2 system, 1 gig RAM

In perfect Settings 1240*960 (Water =0, Effects =0) 2QXAA and 2XAF I get 35fps Ave on Blackdeath and 42fps on Kamikaze.
(Onboard audio on medium settings) no overclocking.

Overclocked to 550core,1100mem these increase to 38, 45 fps respectively

Changing from no AF to 2xAF has no affect on frame rates. I also get white shadows on some ground objects.

ZG77_Nagual
11-22-2004, 03:41 PM
So far - in continued testing - it is looking more and more like the 9800xt is faster - on the order of 20% . I'll try some higher res to see if the gap narrows - my 48fps figure above is low - I'd reloaded perfect mode which change the trees setting in the conf.ini. With this corrected it's 50. I may go back to the agp rig until sli comes out.

ZG77_Nagual
11-23-2004, 10:03 AM
More Findings:

Brought the PCI ex rig into work and hooked it to a switch box with the agp rig. In the Kamikaze trak the difference between these cards - at 4xaa 2xas is negligable. The GF6600gt renders 0 water better than the 9800xt. You'll notice this primarily in distance and very close - the 9800xt water is pixellated.
The 9800xt was generally about 2-3fps faster in the average area - and maxed about 15fps higher - but there are points where the 6600gt surged ahead..

6600gt definitely gets the bang for the buck award.

MiszaNC
11-23-2004, 12:31 PM
Here you are some more info about GF6600 GT
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041119/index.html