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XArmy
07-20-2006, 08:35 PM
Like I said in another post, I just got this game and love it (been playin IL2 forever though)... But what plane can keep up with or over take a Zero??? Nothing I fly seems to keep up with them... They always pull away...

Also, which Allied plane is the most manouverable?? What do you guys like to fly???

I wish I knew the differences between all these new planes better... Sorry for the newbie Q's...


Thanks...

tigertalon
07-20-2006, 08:47 PM
Hello, wellcome to the boards.

It's advisable to upgrade the sim up to 4.05m or at least 4.04m, whole community uses this two versions in which there is roughly 200 flyable planes to choose from.

Secondly: read, learn, DL everything you can here. (http://www.airwarfare.com/Sims/FB/il2_fb.htm)

Thirdly, you wanna know how to dogfight zeros? Well, you don't. There is no allied plane THAT maneouverable (with exception of J8 or I153). You can't outmanouver them. Learn what means the expression Boom&Zoom (BnZ) and learn this tactics. It works very well against zeros http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

XArmy
07-20-2006, 08:53 PM
Thanks for the reply...


I assume the "m" in those patches are for the merged game... I am up to 4.04... I have IL2 PF and LOMAC... So I assume I can't use the merged ones right??

Crash_Moses
07-20-2006, 08:53 PM
Bombers, lad!

Forget all that fancy schmancy fighter stuff. You'll never go back... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

XArmy
07-20-2006, 08:59 PM
Oh I've been having tons O fun in the 25's!!! I made a couple coop maps and all of us get in one bomber and fight them off.. It's great!!!!

VW-IceFire
07-20-2006, 09:21 PM
Basically the only plane in the US Navy or US Army group that isn't faster than the Zero is the early P-40B and P-40C, and the F4F Wildcats at some altitudes. Everything else from the P-38 to the P-47 to the F6F Hellcat and most certainly the Corsair is faster.

The Zero is light and it accelerates well so you cannot squander what speed you already have in the heavier and more powerful aircraft.

Its all about technique...two pilots flying identical planes will often find that in a fight the veteran pilot gets considerably more speed out of his plane than the newbie pilot. The vet knows how to manuever his plane for maximum speed by using smooth movements on the stick and not pulling tight turns unless required.

Practice and you'll be catching and flaming those pesky Zero's in no time!

JG53Frankyboy
07-21-2006, 02:55 AM
the P-38s are nightmares for Zeros - correct flown http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
keep speed high.
learn to shoot with lead.
make single and fast firing passes, fly away and than come back if the first attack wasnt succesfull.
actually thats the general rule fighting the Zero in allied planes - but for me the P-38 is the best in ti http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG52Karaya-X
07-21-2006, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by VW-IceFire:
Basically the only plane in the US Navy or US Army group that isn't faster than the Zero is the early P-40B and P-40C, and the F4F Wildcats at some altitudes.

Sorry but the P40B/C is faster than ALL Zeros. At sealevel both planes are quite equal but the B pulls away with increasing altitude and is a good 30km/h faster at 5000m than the 5a for example.

You probably meant the Brewster F2A2, no?

Heavy_Metal1982
07-21-2006, 08:41 AM
The great thing about fighting Zekes is that it doesn't take a lot of hits to take them down. Especially if you are using the cannons on the F4U-1C. One or two hits (1 second burst) is more than enough to bring them down. Like everyone else has pointed out, do NOT turn with a zeke. Whenever I'm flying a Zeke, and I'm fighting with a Wildcat,Hellcat, or any other Navy fighter... I'm praying they turn with me. Once they do, they can't escape. The other thing to is when I'm flying a zeke I avoid getting hit more than any other plane. Sometimes you can get extremely lucky and get hit a lot and still fly, but that's very rare.

So, know the zeke's advantages: Excellent dogfighter/turn and burn, strong cannons, and excellent climb rate. Know disadvantages: very weak armor, slow top speed compared to USN planes, and weak machine guns. Also the earlier versions of the Zeke (namely the - 21 varient) doesn't have a second stage supercharger. So it's weaker at higher alt than some of the USN aircraft.