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Colwell1199
03-25-2006, 03:57 PM
hey everyone,

I'm getting ready to move to Ramstein in Oct and i wanted to know a few things....Do u have cable or DSL? how much is it (in dollars) what's the weather like in Oct? Any paintball fields near there? Are the streets big enough to bring a 04 F150 or should i just buy something overthere. What does it cost for a 1 room apartment? Any help would be much needed.
Thanks all
Hawkeye

JASTA
03-25-2006, 06:08 PM
Hi Colwell,

since I live in Wiesbaden I would not say I live near Ramstein (although 150 km might not be that far compared to distances in your country http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)but you have DSL and cable almost all over germany. I pay 12 Euro (approax. 16 USD) a month for the DSL flatrate but you could surely get it much cheaper. The weather in october is most of the time above 0 degrees celsius but very rainy.I can't tell you anything about paintball fields, but the streets a surely big enough for you truck, although a car with less thirst might be an option since you have to pay aproax. 2,00 USD for one litre(NOT one galone)gasolin. 1 room appartements should be quite cheap down there, maybe 300 USD incl. additional expenses.

Hope you have a good time there
JASTA

WWSensei
03-25-2006, 06:49 PM
I lived in Ramstein, but it's dated but some things probably haven't changed.

Ford truck should be no problem though a few of the small towns might have some tough streets to navigate. Weather in Oct is a lot like the NorthWest of the USA. Mostly cold, drizzly rain. I got there on Oct 2 and it was the same drizzly rain for 45 days.

When the summer comes its gorgeous. Winters have snow but not too bad. The good thing is you are not more than 200 miles from many, many good cities.

Summer activities to snow skiing are easy to reach and you can easily spend a weekend in Paris and be back at work on Monday morning.

Can't tell about the cost...it's been 12 years since I lived there...

Oh, back then Vogelweh (about 5 miles from Ramstein) had several paintball fields and there were several local German clubs, but that was 12 years ago...

airdale1960
03-26-2006, 04:53 AM
I live in Kusel, about 24 kilometers away, DSL is available, from 15-25 Euro. Cable modems you can get on base, usually more expensive. Cable TV can be had by TKS, on base. You have to get a decoder for AFN channels. You can also get SKY satelite service, it is UK, or Deutch Cable TV.

MadRuski
03-26-2006, 05:04 AM
GREAT ROCK GROUP... GREAT MUSIC http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

HotelBushranger
03-26-2006, 05:32 AM
Freaky...I am just listening to the song Rammstein, by the group Rammstein. Coincedence? I think not!

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 05:40 AM
AFAIK they called themselves "Rammstein" because of the infamous 'Frecce Triccolori' crash on August 28th 1988 af Ramstein AFB (near Landstuhl, Rheinland-Pfalz state), killing 70+ people.

http://www.ramstein-katastrophe.de/bilder/Fase2.jpg


Being a band that has provocating lyrics in most of their songs, that fits in pretty well.

Dunno where the second "m" comes from though http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

HotelBushranger
03-26-2006, 05:56 AM
They put it in so as to not be a direct link to that crash, and out of respect, which yes is where they got their name from.

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 06:10 AM
Since that crash any kind of military formation aerobatics are forbidden in Germany.

HotelBushranger
03-26-2006, 06:11 AM
Bloody ell http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Taylortony
03-26-2006, 06:19 AM
You will enjoy Germany and indeed Europe... I am British but served in Germany for 3 years at RAF Bruggen and have visited Ramstein, only disadvantages I noticed when visiting was

1, It was full of Americans http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
2, The local prices seem to be a heck of a lot higher because of Item 1........ did not seem to happen near an RAF base as much..

Places to go and see...........

Might sound Morbid but go see the Concentration camps........ it is one thing you will never forget..

Cochem and Rhine in Flames in September THE wine festival and fall over time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~tchrist0/rhine-in-flames.html (http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/%7Etchrist0/rhine-in-flames.html)

http://www.cochem.de/


Also Switzerland Austria etc and of course the UK for Duxford Flying Legends http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Capt.England
03-26-2006, 06:22 AM
I remember that day well! We had a airshow at Leicester on that day which I was at. A lot of the planes that was at Leicester were also flying to/from Ramstein AB. Some message came though to the control tower bloke that something big had happened in Germany and the rest of the planes could not turn up at Leicester. The commentator told us all that something had happened in Germany and the planes will not turn up that were due. He also said that he hoped it was not the start of WW3. Of course, that got a couple of laughs in the airshow crowd.

After the show finished, I made my way home to my parents house and walked in to find my parents in tears. I wondered what was up and my mum told me that I was lucky to be alive because of the cash at the airshow. It took me ten minutes to settle her down as I had to tell her that it was in Germany and not England that the crash had happened.

It very nearly killed off all airshows in Europe, that sad, sad day. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 06:23 AM
Germany had four aerobatics teams in the past.

One flew Hawker Seahawks (Marineflieger), another one (Luftwaffe) flew F-104F (WaSLW 10 - WaffenSchule LuftWaffe 10), another one (Luftwaffe) flew Fouga Magister trainers and the fourth one (Marineflieger) also flew a two-ship formation of F-104Gs...known as "The Vikings" - maybe somebody remembers them, they made a "farewell Starfighter" tour to the US in 1986.
Some Vikigs-pics:
http://www.fly-navy.de/vikings/vikings.html

Well, the Luftwaffe dropped the idea of formation-aerobatics, when their fourship of WaSLW 10 crashed on June 19th 1962 - one day prior JaboG 31's establishment-ceremony.
The Starfighters are said to still stick in the ground where they crashed and killed their pilots in '62.
As a cause of this incident, the Lw also dropped the Magister-team and never had a demo team ever since.
IMHO that's a bit off - think of the Thunderbirds that also lost a whole formation of T-38s during a training flight.

- On both occassions the leader screwd up and led the whole formation to it's destiny -



BTW: Büchel/Cochem is the home of JaboG 33, eqipped with Tornados. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-26-2006, 06:49 AM
Hey, Colwell1199.

Welcome to Germany. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Allthough I don't live near Ramstein (I grew up near Siegen and live in Gütersloh, now), but if you need anything, help or info, don't hesitate to drop me a PM!

A F150 won't be a problem speaking of the streets, but I wouldn't recommend it. Compared to the US the parking spaces are a lot smaller here, so, if you get your car in one of these spaces, you'd probably be Hudini to get out.
Well, perhaps not literally, but there is a difference. As somebody who studied to plan such things: Lanes are usually 3,25m to 3,75m wide, Parking spaces are planned with 2,30-2,50m though.
You'd also regret it, considering fuel prices here. We pay 1.3 Euros per Liter, not per gallon http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

DSL is available in every larger city, though not for the complete area, sometimes. If you know the address, you can test that though. We did the same when we moved. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
It was said DSL-cost is about 16USD. Well, dunno how that works in the US, but here, you have to have a telephone (18euros/month) + DSL (15euros/month) + e.g. Flatrate (starting from 6euros, but I'd expect something like 10-15euros, depending on the area you move to) = around 45euros / month

The cost for an appartment is rather difficult to tell. I could look up an appartment in that area, if you want me to (e.g. www.immobilienscout24.de) (http://www.immobilienscout24.de))
As to the weather: Oktober is still fine. No hurricanes, no flooding - unlike during my 4 weeks in the US http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 07:02 AM
The last few octobers have been quite sunny - especially the last one.
I mean they say "golden october" in Germany http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-26-2006, 07:06 AM
Well, at least Oktoberfest is not far away from there. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 07:10 AM
Yep, Oktoberfest is THE chance to get in conversation with drunk Kiwis and Aussies all over the place http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

But usually the only words one can understand is "beer" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/shady.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-26-2006, 07:18 AM
LOL - Indeed!

And you never pay higher prices for a single beer. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 07:24 AM
Things turn into fun when the first mass-brawls start...

They're usually cause by somebody not getting a date by the "Bier-Dirndln" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif


As for the latter ones:
http://www.oldworld.ws/images/oktoberfest/oktoberfest2004/kids_girls.jpg

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 09:29 AM
Bump http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

Colwell1199
03-26-2006, 10:14 AM
Hey all,

1st off i want to thank everyone who has replyed to this. it has helped very much. Do They have cell phones in Germany like Verizon or sprint? Do anyone know how much it cost to call back state side? i hope the weather is nice, i've never lived in a cold weather climit before so i'm not really looking forward to that. I plan to go to all the WW2 sites out there like the concentration camps and does anyone know if they have any old WW2 Luftwaffe airfields still around that you can take tours at or did they destory them after the war. What some good places to go look at some ME-109's and FW-190's because its been my dream to see a 109 in person http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Thanks again everyone!
Hawkeye

CD_kp84yb
03-26-2006, 10:20 AM
hello

well you gonna travel alot if you wanna see all.
here is what you can find today in niedersachsen

http://www.relikte.com/

click on the english icon , this way it will show english text. hit ubersicht and you get a map just run around that site and have fun

BfHeFwMe
03-26-2006, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Taylortony:
You will enjoy Germany and indeed Europe... I am British but served in Germany for 3 years at RAF Bruggen and have visited Ramstein, only disadvantages I noticed when visiting was

1, It was full of Americans http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
2, The local prices seem to be a heck of a lot higher because of Item 1........ did not seem to happen near an RAF base as much..

Places to go and see...........

Might sound Morbid but go see the Concentration camps........ it is one thing you will never forget..

Cochem and Rhine in Flames in September THE wine festival and fall over time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif





Wow, British, something special I take it. Did you feel the need to insult the original poster or what? Want to take a guess as to what he is.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 10:23 AM
There are 109s in Hannover-Laatzen (luftfahrtmuseum), Berlin-Gatow (Luftwaffenmuseum) and Munich (Deutsches Museum).
Hannover also features a 190.

There are no tours on airfields - if you expect something like in Pearl.
But you can go and look on your own.

Taylortony
03-26-2006, 11:10 AM
Originally posted by BfHeFwMe:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Taylortony:
You will enjoy Germany and indeed Europe... I am British but served in Germany for 3 years at RAF Bruggen and have visited Ramstein, only disadvantages I noticed when visiting was

1, It was full of Americans http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
2, The local prices seem to be a heck of a lot higher because of Item 1........ did not seem to happen near an RAF base as much..

Places to go and see...........

Might sound Morbid but go see the Concentration camps........ it is one thing you will never forget..

Cochem and Rhine in Flames in September THE wine festival and fall over time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif





Wow, British, something special I take it. Did you feel the need to insult the original poster or what? Want to take a guess as to what he is.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


MY DEAR SIR, I know what he is and the http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Indicates it was done in the realms of joviality......... I spent a lot of time with US forces in My time in the RAF and we shared a common bond in taking the proverbial out of each other and drinking large quantities of Alcohol.......... Far from taking the mick, I have a lot of friends still worldwide in the USAF, indeed wherever we went on detachment the same bunch of reprabates seemed to follow us http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I can remember one memorable incident at Jever in Northern Germany, we turned up at the accomodation and reversed the minibus up to the doors to offload the 25 crates of beer the 5 of us had brought with us (u needed something for when the bars and clubs shut http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) to be met by one of the USAF guys coming out the block who we drank under the table shooting cans of Bud in Sardinia 3 month earlier, hehehehehe....... his face was a peach when he realised we were back for the rematch and had brought some real beer with us... ahhh Grolsh and wobbly http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif and http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

They had the unenviable moment in every airforces worst nightmare at Jever when they had a Phantom go tech and had to ask the German Phantom Squadron with us to fix it for them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif (Molders Sqn) as they didnt have the men or equipment with them to do it........ the shame of it, and needless to say us( the RAF ) the Luftwaffe and the Dutch that were on the TLP course at the time didn't let em forget http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BTW I went out for a time with a USAF female soldier type person...... She taught me some tactics that wern't in the book so to speak http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 11:23 AM
I see, Tony liked Germany...

How about some "revival" - let's say during "Oktoberfest" ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Taylortony
03-26-2006, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Bremspropeller:
I see, Tony liked Germany...

How about some "revival" - let's say during "Oktoberfest" ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

RAF Bruggen used to have their own German marching band the DER ADLER and they held a Beer Festival as one of the inter marching band rounds along with the Germans....... they used to empty one of the big hangers and turn it into a giant beer keller for the night......... my head still hurts http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Bremspropeller
03-26-2006, 11:40 AM
I see..RAF Germany creates *blurry* memories http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Well, maybe we could have some european community meeting at Munich in - say mid-september ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Colwell1199
03-26-2006, 03:12 PM
WOW i hope when i come back from Germany, i have great stories like those LOL but thanks for the story

Taylortony
03-26-2006, 04:48 PM
If you do.... One USAF bod I knew had been in Germany for some 12 years....... he managed to keep extending his tour http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif Drove a Mini too........ and loved it, we always thought that was odd to see the rest of them in big awful trucks etc and here was his little white mini http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif but he did love it and was going to take it home with him when he finally left...... ( no doubt in his carry on luggage) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

WWSensei
03-27-2006, 11:25 AM
To the original poster...cell phones. Europe has cell phones. When it comes to things like cell phones and usage Europe (actually most of the rest of the world) is about 1-5 years ahead of the US.

OberUberWurst
03-27-2006, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Bremspropeller:
Dunno where the second "m" comes from though

The extra "m" in the band's name means that it translates literally as "ramming stone" or "battering ram", reinforcing the style of music the band plays.

Taylortony
03-27-2006, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by OberUberWurst:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bremspropeller:
Dunno where the second "m" comes from though

The extra "m" in the band's name means that it translates literally as "ramming stone" or "battering ram", reinforcing the style of music the band plays. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you really want to see the footage of the crash it is here http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8dfv2II_alY

BaldieJr
03-27-2006, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by OberUberWurst:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bremspropeller:
Dunno where the second "m" comes from though

The extra "m" in the band's name means that it translates literally as "ramming stone" or "battering ram", reinforcing the style of music the band plays. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

that explains a lot.