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CyberWings
01-25-2006, 12:12 PM
I was thinking to start building a few missions for the mosquito or the tempest but I really don´t have much information to make historical missions for these planes. I´ve think the
new generic map of north of Europe could be used as a theatre of operations in 1944 (belgium?).
Does anyone know is any of these planes were used to attack a v-2 site?
Can´t anyone post a few links or text with information related to these planes and the missions?
I´m going to start placing the objects and the AI airplanes on the maps.
I know that the mosquito or the tempest are not available for the moment but building a mission or a campaign takes a lot of time and testing. For testing the missions in a first stage I going to use temporary replacements like the beaufighter or the spitfire, then after the next add-on they will be replaced and the missions uploaded somewhere.

danjama
01-25-2006, 02:38 PM
For the Tempest you wont go far wrong if you search for the 2nd TAF (tactical air force).

Not sure about Mossie http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Low_Flyer_MkII
01-25-2006, 02:48 PM
http://www.aviation-history.com/dehavilland/mosquito.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeHavilland_Mosquito

http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/html%20pages/DE%...0DH98%20MOSQUITO.htm (http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/html%20pages/DE%20HAVILLAND%20DH98%20MOSQUITO.htm)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_Tempest

Dunkelgrun
01-25-2006, 04:35 PM
May I suggest a visit to your local library might help? Or failing that enter DeHavilland Mosquito and Hawker Tempest into Google?

All the best with the missions.
Cheers!

VW-IceFire
01-25-2006, 06:01 PM
I can answer some detailed questions about Tempest operations.

Here's a basic rundown. The Tempest V was formally accepted into service during the early part of 1944. By April there were the first squadrons in the formative stages. During the D-Day invasion the Tempests were held on reserve with ADGB (Air Defense Great Britain) where they were chasing V-1 buzz bombs. I believe the Tempest was the highest or near highest scoring type against V-1s. During this period Squadron Leader Beaumont did take a squadron of Tempests over France and did battle against the Luftwaffe scoring handily and I believe they suffered no losses (may have been one, I forget).

By September most of the first 100 Tempests were pulled back for retrofitting to Series II standard (which comprised the rest of the about 800 produced before the end of the war).

By December the Tempest was serving on the continent under the banner of the 2nd TAF (Tactical Air Force). This included squadrons like No.3, No.56, No.486, and others. This was all part of RAF 122 Wing.

Most of the missions flown during this period until the end of the war were flown from Volkes airfield. Volkes was one of the few airbases missed during the January 1st operations by the Luftwaffe.

The Tempest from December 1944 to April 1945 was primarily tasked as a tactical fighter. To the RAF this meant flying lower and hunting for medium and low altitude Luftwaffe aircraft as well as trucks, trains, troops, and anything of value to the Germans. Do not mistake the Tempest as an attack aircraft. Tempests shot down significant numbers of enemy fighters during this period and the Luftwaffe that the 2nd TAF was facing was not the crippled one that everyone has you believe they were. They were often flying 8 Tempests into a swarm of 12 or 20 FockeWulfs or 109s and these were what remained of some of the best of JG2, JG26, and JG54 (amongst others).

Tempests also during this period shot down a Me-163, a He-162, several Me-262s, and gave chase to a Do-335 - which narrowly escaped thanks to its much superior speed and the relative surprise of the situation.

Tempests were usually selected by the 2nd TAF command structure to operate against the most dangerous of targets due to their speed and therefore best ability to avoid flak. Despite this more Tempests were lost to flak than to enemy fighters.

Its my plan to produce a 20 mission campaign featuring the Tempest V when it becomes flyable.

hmkim
01-25-2006, 07:48 PM
Can we fly the Mosquito or the Tempest in this sim? I must be missing something in this thread.

VW-IceFire
01-25-2006, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by hmkim:
Can we fly the Mosquito or the Tempest in this sim? I must be missing something in this thread.
If all goes well...the next free addon will include a flayble Mosqutio Mark FB.VI and a Tempest Mark V Series II.

CyberWings
01-26-2006, 09:14 AM
Thank you very much everyone. I`m going to start working on this missions today.
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mhuxt
02-01-2006, 03:13 AM
Hi Cyberwings:

Email me at markhuxAThotmail.com - will send you some snippets which will help with Mosquito missions.

You might also want to have a look at:

www.151squadron.org.uk (http://www.151squadron.org.uk)

for some reports of Mosquito operations, especially the "Instep" sorties over Biscay and the "Ranger" sorties over Europe, as these were undertaken with FB.VI Mosquitos without radar.

WOLFMondo
02-01-2006, 03:54 AM
For those mission makers:

The new north West Germany map in the last patch features Volkel airbase. This was home to one of the the Tempests wings, No.122 Wing.

Exploits of this wing feature in Pierre Clostermans big show. You can also get more information about them in 2nd TAF Volume 2 and Volume 3.

Capt.LoneRanger
02-01-2006, 04:26 AM
Mossies were used for recon missions, bombing and bomber-interception. They became a legend because they could deliver an imense bombload quickly to a precice target. Most of the time these missions were to attack Gestapo- and C3-buildings deep inside Germany with penetrating bombs.

Definitely interesting for a bunch of nice deep precision strike missions.

BGs_Ricky
02-01-2006, 04:45 AM
The Mosquito FB Mk VI was, as an example, used very successfully by No. 418 City of Edmonton Squadron (RCAF) in Night/Day Intruder missions and Day Ranger missions.
Night intruder missions meant that the aircrafts would fly near enemy aidromes late at night, waiting for german nightfighters to come back and shoot them down. They scored well even if their aircrafts weren'r radar equipped like nightfighter Mossies Squadrons (equipped with Mosquitos NFII's and successive variants).

Day Ranger were probably amongst the most exciting missions to be flown: a solitary or a pair of Mossies would fly low-level free-hunt missions deep into enemy territory, attacking any targets of opportunity: aircrafts, aerodromes, trains, road traffic, barges and boats etc...

Coastal Command succesfully employed Mosquitos from 1944 on in antishipping strikes, first offshore France and Netherlands, then in Norway and the Baltic sea.

Nightfighters Mossies flew in defense of England, as offensive support for bomber raids and as Night intruders.

stathem
02-01-2006, 04:55 AM
Originally posted by mhuxt:
Hi Cyberwings:

Email me at markhuxAThotmail.com - will send you some snippets which will help with Mosquito missions.

You might also want to have a look at:

www.151squadron.org.uk (http://www.151squadron.org.uk)

for some reports of Mosquito operations, especially the "Instep" sorties over Biscay and the "Ranger" sorties over Europe, as these were undertaken with FB.VI Mosquitos without radar.

Thanks for that link, that's an excellant site.

Many absolute cl***ic stories, but I just have to cut and paste this one:


(A.I. was still highly secret equipment, and since the Germans were listening in to all R/T conversations, coding of messages was important. A.I. was referred to as the "weapon". On vectoring by G.C.I., the instructions to switch on the A.I. was "flash your weapon". The return message was "my weapon is flashing". In the event that for any reason the A.I. was unserviceable or inoperable, the pilot would transmit the message "My weapon is bent", thus clearing G.C.I. to re-vector another aircraft to attempt the interception).

WOLFMondo
02-01-2006, 05:47 AM
Mosquitos in 44/45 with the 2nd TAF also did allot of ground straifing at night. Basically when the Tiffies went to bed, the Mosquitos came out and carried on the ground attack role.

tojo633
02-01-2006, 06:08 AM
"A Private little war" highlights the operations of the Banff Strike wing coastal command from the N/E of Scotland under the command of Hon Max Aitken. This book gives day by day history of operations, types and losses, will confirm name & author as I'm at work just now.

Off the top of my head
Mosquito missions - probably the most famous was the Amien Prison raid to free resistance members and I think the raid on Gestapo HQ in Bergen Norway? then there is the usual night fighter/intruder missions and attacks on V1 launch sites. Will check my library to see what books are there etc.

mhuxt
02-02-2006, 03:10 AM
Some good 2nd TAF stuff, including the Amiens raid, is here:

http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2-2RAF-c6.html

Other pages on that site have good info on V-1 sorties, Coastal Strike stuff etc.

<S> kiwis.

tojo633
02-02-2006, 06:07 AM
Book is called "A separate little war" by Andrew Bird, also "Mosquito Sqdns of the RAF" by chaz Bowyer I believe there is also a Mosquito at war book 2, also the various modelling reference datafiles may help.