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Chuck_Older
10-15-2005, 08:50 AM
Some members still have the wrong idea about the patch and the update, I see

I don't want to discuss the date for the patch or the update, or why X Y or Z is right or wrong

I just want to remind folks -again- that the patch we are waiting for is a patch for 4.01. It is NOT the update in which we get all sorts of new aircraft.

Is that clear? According to Oleg Maddox, the 4.02 patch will have <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">two new aircraft</span>. Two. he says as much in his "About the life of the whole IL2 series" thread, in the first post. The thread is in Oleg's ready Room as a sticky thread. Please read it

The <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">4.02 patch is to address gameplay issues and adjust Flight Modelling for planes we already have- the "Old" planes we already have</span>. It is NOT to introuduce the long list of aircraft he has disclosed

The long list of new aircraft is intended for release in the update that will come after the 4.02 patch


The 4.02 patch will have two new aircraft. It is not intended to introduce a lot of new content. A new map may be included as well. Maybe.

It may be that the patch and the update are released together. This has NOT been hinted at by the developer at all. Do NOT anticipate this. Clear? DO NOT ANTICIPATE THIS

Is this clear? 4.02 will have only TWO new aircraft. It's function is for gameplay issues and flight modelling. It is a true patch, not an update

ElAurens
10-15-2005, 08:56 AM
Thanks Chuck.

Frankly I await the patch with great expectation. I have not flown much in the ETO or Ost Front of late because of certain issues that need to be cleaned up.

Chuck_Older
10-15-2005, 09:17 AM
I'll tell you what, the trend I see lately worries me, El

It's as if players don't notice- and worse, they don't care- that the flight models change. I can't wait to try the new FMs in a lot of planes. It's a great challenge to learn to fly them. How do I Chandelle in that plane now? I'll spend an hout learning to maneuver in one plane

BaldieJr
10-15-2005, 09:38 AM
I dont really care about all the wwii junk... i just need to know which plane is the new best and why my favorites always stink.

carguy_
10-15-2005, 10:18 AM
Daddy oh Daddy can I have an unsynched machineguns???

PLEASE DADDY!!!!!

HARRIER_401
10-15-2005, 10:26 AM
Chuck please go and buy that map. Because you are soooooo lost.

Chuck_Older
10-15-2005, 10:31 AM
Originally posted by HARRIER_401:
Chuck please go and buy that map. Because you are soooooo lost.

Well then this is your opportunity to show the world how stupid I am.

Tell us then. What's happening with the patch and what's in it?

LStarosta
10-15-2005, 12:05 PM
Mossie in 4.02! Sweet!

blindpugh
10-15-2005, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Some members still have the wrong idea about the patch and the update, I see

I don't want to discuss the date for the patch or the update, or why X Y or Z is right or wrong

I just want to remind folks -again- that the patch we are waiting for is a patch for 4.01. It is NOT the update in which we get all sorts of new aircraft.

Is that clear? According to Oleg Maddox, the 4.02 patch will have <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">two new aircraft</span>. Two. he says as much in his "About the life of the whole IL2 series" thread, in the first post. The thread is in Oleg's ready Room as a sticky thread. Please read it

The <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">4.02 patch is to address gameplay issues and adjust Flight Modelling for planes we already have- the "Old" planes we already have</span>. It is NOT to introuduce the long list of aircraft he has disclosed

The long list of new aircraft is intended for release in the update that will come after the 4.02 patch


The 4.02 patch will have two new aircraft. It is not intended to introduce a lot of new content. A new map may be included as well. Maybe.

It may be that the patch and the update are released together. This has NOT been hinted at by the developer at all. Do NOT anticipate this. Clear? DO NOT ANTICIPATE THIS

Is this clear? 4.02 will have only TWO new aircraft. It's function is for gameplay issues and flight modelling. It is a true patch, not an update yes m8 I think most people understand it is just a patch to update 4.01-personally I aint bothered about new a/c as it is other issues with 4.01 that are well documented on here that i'm interested in having resolved.

msalama
10-15-2005, 12:12 PM
Because you are soooooo lost.

If he's lost IYO, fine. But he's still not an a**hole idiot like you. So 1-0 for Chuck.

And Chuck, thanks for the thread. Some people need to read it, even if they don't have a f**king clue and/or brains to understand anything about anything http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

VW-IceFire
10-15-2005, 12:21 PM
Good update...

Lots of people still don't get it. You could hit them on the head with a mallet that imprinted "4.02 is a patch, not an addon!" and they still wouldn't get it.

zombiewolf92553
10-15-2005, 12:23 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif Soo we don't get French benifits...
Steely Dan is NOT a man....

Fed Ex don't cost much....

Papa_K
10-15-2005, 12:43 PM
Wasn't there rumor of a Russian-market-only add-on too?

(Some people seem to like playing "Pull-Chuck's-Chain"...is it fun?)

Papa_K
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

BuzzU
10-15-2005, 12:46 PM
I patched a tube once.

KG26_Alpha
10-15-2005, 12:51 PM
@zombiewolf
HUH !
Someones medication run out ? ?


Patch or update just bung the 2 together and have one download and stop the "prepatch" hysteria we get.
Theres going to be some hoo haa as it when its released..........

major_setback
10-15-2005, 03:42 PM
Originally posted by KG26_Alpha:
@zombiewolf
HUH !
Someones medication run out ? ?


Patch or update just bung the 2 together and have one download and stop the "prepatch" hysteria we get.
Theres going to be some hoo haa as it when its released..........


Patch...update...the 2 together...one download...we get!
There's...some hoo haa...it's released!

Sorry, I couldn't help editing the above quote. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Xiolablu3
10-15-2005, 04:16 PM
Good post Chuck. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Hopefully it will stop a lot of disappointment.

h009291
10-15-2005, 04:37 PM
.... two new aircraft[/color]. Two.

YES ... YES .... another two versions of the Yak ... I can hardly wait !!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-indifferent.gif

fordfan25
10-15-2005, 06:10 PM
has it been said by 1c wich two planes will be added? also which FM/DM's have been changed??

Bearcat99
10-15-2005, 06:24 PM
I think its a Yak 3 and a boosted 47.... but I am not 100%certain.. and I think Ian did say they managed to get the new map in the patch as well... and the prop pitch issue was fixed among other things.... It's all good to me.

JG52_Helgstrand
10-15-2005, 10:59 PM
Who the hell cares if other people don't get it, as long as you do? That's all that matters...

Joe 'Woody' Strummer R.I.P. Chuck what's your fav album? Just curious. The only band that matters!!

WTE_Ibis
10-16-2005, 02:54 AM
It'll be another fm beta for Bob,the two aircraft are sweeteners, the map a bonus.

.

Heliopause
10-16-2005, 05:10 AM
I am hoping for this.....

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b334/PauseHelio/FokkerDXXI-museum.jpg

jds1978
10-16-2005, 05:35 AM
Joe 'Woody' Strummer R.I.P. Chuck what's your fav album? Just curious. The only band that matters!!

i realize this is directed to chuck....but....

"London Calling" followed by "Sandanista" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

antifreeze
10-16-2005, 06:17 AM
I was looking forward to the update alot; I thought the aircraft flightmodels were going to be fixed and all the problems with it ironed out. But a beta-tester recently told me about the patch and the changes made to the flight model, and what he thought of it. And now I'm not looking forward to it anymore. Only time will tell I suppose (as that was only one person's opinion) but now I'm not that hopeful that the patch will be much better than 4.01.

So I am drumming up excitment about the ADD-ON rather than the patch.

ImpStarDuece
10-16-2005, 06:58 AM
The reports I have heard from several beta testers have been generally positive. This is not behind closed doors stuff, but information generally out there in the internet. The stuff I hear about the Release Candidates is 95% positive. I can live with that. Everyone will have something that they want to complain about, otherwise they wouldn't be human.

A few more layers of difficulty in the flight model, a few adjustments to some old favourites (190, 109, Spitfire have been mentioned), some AI tweaking, a new map, and a few miscellaneous graphics changes. It all seems good. Why complain? Almost everyone will fly it regardless, online or off.

ElAurens
10-16-2005, 06:59 AM
The aircraft to be included in the patch are a late 1942 Yak 7B, with slightly more HP which was done at the request of some online war or other, and a P47D 27 tuned for 150 octane fuel. The orginal post by Oleg on this stated it's performance was close to a P47 M.

Don't you guys have any reading comprehension/retention?

JG52_Helgstrand
10-16-2005, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by jds1978:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Joe 'Woody' Strummer R.I.P. Chuck what's your fav album? Just curious. The only band that matters!!

i realize this is directed to chuck....but....

"London Calling" followed by "Sandanista" http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not a big fan of "Sandanista" but "London Calling" is defineatly a classic.
But I think "Give 'em Enough Rope" gets my vote.

HARRIER_401
10-16-2005, 05:57 PM
Most people already know what is in the patch. Because just like all the other patches it has been leaked, and I would guess more than half the people that responed to this post have it. Someone even had the nerve to host a game in HL last night titled 4.02rc3 test.

JG52_Helgstrand
10-16-2005, 07:59 PM
That's probably because it was being tested by the beta testers.
Means it will be released soon. Whatever soon means...LOL

_VR_ScorpionWorm
10-16-2005, 10:22 PM
This game/sim is getting a patch and an addon? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Could somebody kindly get a dozer to move my rock.....

Old_Canuck
10-16-2005, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by _VR_ScorpionWorm:
This game/sim is getting a patch and an addon? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Could somebody kindly get a dozer to move my rock.....

http://www.gifs.net/animate/bulldozer.gif

Fill the tank up before you return it ok?

dagenham_dave
10-17-2005, 12:44 AM
hi, i just started on these forums after purchasing a game and see, nothing but whining lol,

WHY ???

i think the sim is great, flys like real, well, nearly, so,
the patch tweaks the flight sim?
sweet. hope it fixes the weight issues.

the update gives us new planes?
bonus.

everyone moans.....?
lol. get a life.......

make the updates a pay thing and those that want to moan and b1tch..... give them a moaning and b1tching thread lol,

dare the moaners to make a better sim lolol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

msalama
10-17-2005, 06:09 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif Spot on Dave!

And the Stranglers was a freekin' great band http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Miki40
10-17-2005, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by Chuck_Older:
Some members still have the wrong idea about the patch and the update, I see

I don't want to discuss the date for the patch or the update, or why X Y or Z is right or wrong

I just want to remind folks -again- that the patch we are waiting for is a patch for 4.01. It is NOT the update in which we get all sorts of new aircraft.

Is that clear? According to Oleg Maddox, the 4.02 patch will have <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">two new aircraft</span>. Two. he says as much in his "About the life of the whole IL2 series" thread, in the first post. The thread is in Oleg's ready Room as a sticky thread. Please read it

The <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">4.02 patch is to address gameplay issues and adjust Flight Modelling for planes we already have- the "Old" planes we already have</span>. It is NOT to introuduce the long list of aircraft he has disclosed

The long list of new aircraft is intended for release in the update that will come after the 4.02 patch


The 4.02 patch will have two new aircraft. It is not intended to introduce a lot of new content. A new map may be included as well. Maybe.

It may be that the patch and the update are released together. This has NOT been hinted at by the developer at all. Do NOT anticipate this. Clear? DO NOT ANTICIPATE THIS

Is this clear? 4.02 will have only TWO new aircraft. It's function is for gameplay issues and flight modelling. It is a true patch, not an update

Calm down m8, calm down...!
I am very calm, you see...

http://www.greenhearts.org/images/screenshots/256.jpg

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-17-2005, 07:14 AM
Funny thing is...I actually LIKE the FM's in 4.01. They feel more realistic than any other version thus far. A few quirks, yes, but tweaked up in 4.02 should only make them better. And a couple new flyables...and a map to boot? life is good.


TB

Chuck_Older
10-17-2005, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by JG52_Helgstrand:
Who the hell cares if other people don't get it, as long as you do? That's all that matters...

Joe 'Woody' Strummer R.I.P. Chuck what's your fav album? Just curious. The only band that matters!!

London Calling or their self titled album

Combat Rock is also one of my favorites

scottmal1
10-17-2005, 03:16 PM
Mine in this order:'The Clash' first album, for the aggression, rawness and sound, 'London calling' for the variety and excellent production and the fact they knocked it out in a couple of weeks, 'Give em enough rope', a couple of weak tracks, a lot of people say Sandy Pearlman overproduced it, but it sounds ok to me(i was checking the record shops everyday waiting it's release) 'Combat Rock'. Don't play Sandinista, just cannot get into it. Not got stuff like 'cut the cr*p' heard it's exactly that, saw Joe and the Mesceleroes (??) on tv doing an absolute blinding 'Police and thieves' live, just started my new job so i might try one of their albums when i get paid, any recommendations?

Chuck_Older
10-17-2005, 03:22 PM
I don't have any of their stuff. But if you don't have it, I recommend the DVD "Westway to the World". Lots of interviews and stories

effte
10-17-2005, 03:30 PM
Takes a fellow clashaholic to get a voice of reason through all the noise, it seems. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

London Calling is probably the best album ever. It is just complete. Sure, there are better songs on other albums but London Calling is just the ultimate musical ride. An album with good songs is like a painting made by an artist with great technique. London Calling is the musical equivalent of a great painting, one which speaks directly to your soul.

Chuck_Older
10-17-2005, 03:32 PM
OK, I'm hijacking my own thread

Best song on London Calling?

My favorite is the Wrong 'em Boyo. Spanish Bombs is a very close second

Low_Flyer_MkII
10-17-2005, 03:36 PM
'Brand New Cadillac'....or 'Clampdown'.

major_setback
10-17-2005, 04:05 PM
Train in Vain for the hand-claps, Brand New Cadillac for that great riff and (maybe) even better guitar solo, Guns of Brixton for the bass, Jimmy Jazz for the horns, Rudy Can't Fail for the partying outro, Working for the Clampdown because it got me through a tedious (*******) job, Wrong 'em Boyo just because..., The Card Cheat for an upright piano in a smokey bar, and The Right Profile for ALCOHOL!!!!

So what are we going to do NOW! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Slechtvalk
10-18-2005, 01:40 AM
Somethimes I just get tired from changes in FM.

I always think how could they be so wrong with the previous patch!?

It's like graphic drivers. they fix some things and other go bad is my feeling.

JG52_Helgstrand
10-18-2005, 02:08 AM
WOW so many Clash fans, I am in good company!!...LOL

Fav album song for me for it's absolute emotion and it's story (true btw) is "Stay Free" from "Rope"

Even though after saying that I prefer Woodies (Strummer for those that don't know) more agressive style than Steve the muso (lol).

From London Calling it's so hard to choose. "Lost in the Supermarket" (aparently Joe's song to Jones) is great. "Rudie Can't Fail" Ah they're all classics!

Then there's "White Man In Hammersmith Palais" about Joes trip to the Reggae nights at the Palais. Awsome.

But my all time fav I think goes to "Bankrobber"
Sooo atmospheric. Listen to that real loud in a dark room full of ganga smoke hehe.

They were both singles (45's) in Britian but in the States I'm not sure??

As a young punk rocker in England in the 70's reggae was really big with us and then the Clash respectfully incorporated it into their sound (unlike the police for example) due to Simonon...Best move they made.

Anybody seen Topper Headon lately? Dudes not in a good way from what I hear.

Anyway sorry for rambling hehe...

Sturm_Williger
10-18-2005, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by effte:
London Calling is probably the best album ever. It is just complete. Sure, there are better songs on other albums but London Calling is just the ultimate musical ride...

How did I get sucked into a patch thread - oh yeah - to agree with what effte said. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

jds1978
10-18-2005, 04:50 AM
great thread (de) evolution!

shortly after it was announced that strummer had died my group had to play a gig....

we all got together early in the day to work out a clash tribute...

we settled on a medley of london calling/magnificient seven/revolution rock...

it took us all afternoon to get it right http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

anyways, we trotted this thing out right before a set break and the crowd went nuts....

very funny since maybe 10% of the audience "got it" (that particular bar catered to the 18-25yr old crowd)

we had such a blast that we kept "revolution rock" in our normal set list

effte
10-18-2005, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Sturm_Williger:
How did I get sucked into a patch thread - oh yeah - to agree with what effte said. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Sorry about that. Chuck made me do it! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif