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Capt._Tenneal
11-18-2004, 12:43 PM
A little history question...

As far as US Army Air Force planes go, why weren't the Jug and Mustang as widespread in the Pacific and CBI as they were in Europe (as opposed to the P-38, I mean) ?

Capt._Tenneal
11-18-2004, 12:43 PM
A little history question...

As far as US Army Air Force planes go, why weren't the Jug and Mustang as widespread in the Pacific and CBI as they were in Europe (as opposed to the P-38, I mean) ?

BlitzPig_Frat
11-18-2004, 01:01 PM
my guess is the P-38 was better suited, in the USAAF's eyes, to the PTO. Mainly the dual engines over vast stretches of water thing, one would still get you home. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

johann63
11-18-2004, 01:11 PM
yep what Frat said, it was all about range in the PTO and the P-38 had them beat. Also yes too the two engines could be a life saver over miles of nothingness.

I believe even Linberg was sent to the Pacific and he showed a way of even increasing the range of the P-38 through I think prop pitch and mixture settings thought to be very dangerous for the engines but he showed would not damage them.

Strange_361st
11-18-2004, 01:54 PM
P-47N has the most range for pacific fighters after Sept. 44. with a range of 2350 miles. Prior to that it was the 38 which Linburg did set.

JorBR
11-18-2004, 02:15 PM
Bong and others were very sucessfull with P-38. AFAIK most of Bong´s victories were achieved in frontal attacks, which isn´t the wisest way to kill AI planes in IL2/FB/AEP/PF http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Korolov
11-18-2004, 02:44 PM
In the case of the 5th Fighter Command, it was because the P-38 was General Kenny's favorite fighter.

Cmte. Carvalho
11-18-2004, 02:53 PM
I still prefer my jug http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

lrrp22
11-18-2004, 03:16 PM
I'm sure that 2 engines were a big plus but, simply put, there was a greater need for a fighter of the Merlin Mustang's capabilities in the ETO/MTO than in the PTO.

As for the P-47, until the arrival of the N, it just didn't have the range required in that theater.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Capt._Tenneal:
A little history question...

As far as US Army Air Force planes go, why weren't the Jug and Mustang as widespread in the Pacific and CBI as they were in Europe (as opposed to the P-38, I mean) ? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

bubiH
11-18-2004, 05:19 PM
Actually, very few P-38s were ever on hand in the Southwest Pacific for Kenney, or anyone else. Fifth Air Force only had one full P-38 group, the 475th, with three or four squadrons.

There were a couple other P-38 squadrons in the Fifth, but not another whole group. Kenney was begging for P-38s but the Mediteranean theatre had priority, then later the 8th Air Force had priority. So Kenney got a group of P-47s instead, the 348th.

This situation never changed much until the near end of the war, when P-51s started pouring in. I don't think the 475th ever transitioned to Mustangs, though.

rcocean
11-18-2004, 06:50 PM
Here are some numbers from the Army Air Corps Statistical Digest:

Airplanes on Hand vs. Japan:

1-43 P-38 - 163 P-51/P-47 - 0
1-44 P-38 - 315 P-47 - 522 P-51 - 107
1-45 P-38 - 755 P-47 - 811 P-51 - 815