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VFS-214_Hawk
03-26-2007, 04:31 PM
This may or may not be allowed. If it gets removed or locked I will understand but it will be a shame. ..edited...

I have two kids...girls, two and 13 and this has becaome valuable to me. Check out this web site.

FOR United States Only

Please keep this clean.

Click the link below.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/

MEGILE
03-26-2007, 05:07 PM
What do you do with this information?

Find the guy and throw him off a bridge?
Move house?
Lock your kids up?
Carry on life as normal?

Pirschjaeger
03-26-2007, 08:20 PM
If you don't want to start a flame war you should be more specific when you write "only in America!".

You know some posters will run with this one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

VFS-214_Hawk
03-26-2007, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by Pirschjaeger:
If you don't want to start a flame war you should be more specific when you write "only in America!".

You know some posters will run with this one. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Understood and edited!

VFS-214_Hawk
03-26-2007, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
What do you do with this information?

Find the guy and throw him off a bridge?
Move house?
Lock your kids up?
Carry on life as normal?

Become familiar with my "surroundings" and educate my children!

Once it happens, its too late to do anything about it. There are those you do not know, and then there are pictures and information about those who do/did.

What would you do if the guy that raped your/his daughter lived two blocks away?

Find the guy and throw him off a bridge?
Move house?
Lock your kids up?
Carry on life as normal?

heywooood
03-26-2007, 09:03 PM
I think being a parent means being informed and engaged in your community and the kids lives.

This is a tool and no more. You use it to be aware of your surroundings.

But a better tool would be a stronger penalty for child predators and others of the ilk.

Why these people are ever allowed to see daylight again after harming a child I will never know.

Our laws do too much to protect criminals and predators in my oppinion.

All of the ones in the news recently and throughout history for that matter have usually been repeat offenders - I think we know enough about this type of crime to know that it is incurable and dangerous to our communities to let the ones we catch and convict ever go free.

This website also serves to reaffirm the fact that we - the law abiding members or our communities, the families, are the ones being penalized by this weakness.

We must treat our kids like prisoners, watching where they go and who they talk to..monitoring everything in their lives as opposed to when we grew up. Just letting them go out and play in their own neighborhoods is literally dangerous.

To stop being a victim and start making predators pay for their heinous crimes against children and families everwhere I implore you to write to your representatives for harsher penalties and no release for repeat offenders.

This problem is worldwide. It is not isolated in America. These vermin victimize women and children everywhere. Time to change the way we think about who they are and what should be done about them. Time to do a better job of protectinfg our families.

You don't want to do it by trying to trace and track the whereabouts of these predators on the outside of the prison walls - out amoung us. You want to keep them incarcerated. There is no cure for what they do.


Isn't it great that I don't have so many oppinions or rant very often? lol

LStarosta
03-26-2007, 09:44 PM
Cool.

The goofy looking old fart across the street is a sex offender.

I wish I was joking because he stares at me when I mow my lawn shirtless.

ViktorViktor
03-27-2007, 12:18 AM
What is a registered offender, by the way ? Is it a convicted offender, or just someone who has been registered in the database by a watchdog member ?

For example, could LStarrosta register the guy across the street as an offender because of his habit of staring at LStarrosta while he mows the lawn ? That would be a nice way to screw somebody (innocent of being a child molester)for life.

leitmotiv
03-27-2007, 01:42 AM
To rate this list you have to be a felon convicted of molestation or assault on a kid. The information comes from the police, not from informers.

We have a huge problem in the U.S with these creatures: molestation is the least of it, unfortunately---one recently convicted paragon buried a little girl alive to hide his molestation crime. When you become aware from adult women how many had been molested or nearly molested when they were little, it is nauseating. A molester tried to abduct me in a book store when I was a boy---they are bold as brass.

MEGILE
03-27-2007, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by VFS-214_Hawk:


Become familiar with my "surroundings" and educate my children!



You can educate your children about the dangers without this information no?
Short of moving house, I don't see the real importance of the information, including the fact that there are dangerous people who are not and never will be on the list.

LStarosta
03-27-2007, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by ViktorViktor:
What is a registered offender, by the way ? Is it a convicted offender, or just someone who has been registered in the database by a watchdog member ?

For example, could LStarrosta register the guy across the street as an offender because of his habit of staring at LStarrosta while he mows the lawn ? That would be a nice way to screw somebody (innocent of being a child molester)for life.

No, I mean some court convicted him of molesting a kid and now he likes to look at my pasty skin.

And the sex offender registry is for all sex offenses, not just towards children. For example, if you go behind some bushes to take a piss and someone sees you, you are a bonafide sex offender

Capt.LoneRanger
03-27-2007, 05:40 AM
No education and no awareness can protect your children. If there's anything we learned from the news about these incidents, it's just that nobody is safe.

Just recently in Germany a boy was abducted and killed. Observation cameras made a nice picture of the man smiling in the camera, while sitting in a bus next to him, just an hour before he was killed. This boy knew very well to not trust anybody and this man, allready twice convicted for the very same actions, knew exactly how to get the boy attention anyway.

Another man just half a year ago had kidnapped and abused a 6 year old girl from her house, holding her in a prison underground in a dark room with 2x1x1m.

I don't know if a witchhunt is the answer, but there has to be a better way to deal with such people. IMHO laws should be adjusted in the first place. In Germany, you get up to 8 years for spraying a grafitty on a train, 5 years for software-piracy and a maximum of 2 years for child abuse. There's got to be something wrong here.

Mastiff070
03-27-2007, 05:41 AM
And the sex offender registry is for all sex offenses, not just towards children. For example, if you go behind some bushes to take a piss and someone sees you, you are a bonafide sex offender That is true, if you were caught in the parking, @ the age of 17 with your 16 year old girl friend you are a sex offender. You can be convicted of rapeing a minor and become a sex offender the law is way to lose anything sexual in nature.

Pirschjaeger
03-27-2007, 07:45 AM
Castration with a dull spoon I say!

The would be no repeat offenders right? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Capt.LoneRanger
03-27-2007, 07:56 AM
Good idea, Pirsch, but I'd add, that this should be done by the victims family.

LEBillfish
03-27-2007, 08:18 AM
No matter the country or how small town you live there ARE a number of things closer to you then you realize....

Many, many more children then on that database are being molested/raped daily within their own homes......So why should that affect you? As if someone can with their own child, someone elses is NOT even a hesitation except fearing they'll get caught.

In your town, no matter how small "slavery" without limitations exists. What is slavery? Anything the owner wants, equivalent to a door mat and as expendable. I do not mean, simply pressured, or owing money, or to your parents having to mow the lawn or some BDSM game between consenting adults....I mean the real thing where a person is considered less then a person yet simply property, can be bought and sold, and can be eliminated without hesitation considered as less...The other bits S.O. wise just a given.

Rape 10 fold the above...

Don't sweat the rest of the world, don't waste your time pushing for laws in your nations or states........Tend your own communities, get to know your neighbors and all you encounter and interact with.

Do NOT as is the norm nowadays seperate yourselves from your neighbors.....Get to know them intimately....The trend of late to not interact or know those around you makes the above and more 100x easier for the predator.....

Take responsibility for your community, as shutting yourself off just makes you and your family a target......Lastly due to the times, forget your childrens privacy from your involvement...You're their parents, act it....Quit using the lame excuse of "they have a right to their lives and privacy" as a way to not take up your own responsibility. It is your SOLE JOB to protect and take care of them till they are old enough to do it for themselves.

So know their friends, select those you want them with and don't...Insist on meeting their friends parents and get to know them...They don't want to take the time then move on, don't let your child be friends with those so irresponsible......Remember, the sins of the father are passed on to the son....SO if you don't like their parents remember their children are the SAME AS THEY.

Why is this problem worse now adays?...More people? somewhat....Less morality? doubtful...Internet and ease of communication? To a fair degree......Parents not parenting?....Absolutly.

If everyone tends their own communities, then the world will fall into line.

Worf101
03-27-2007, 08:30 AM
Hard topic, hard choices. When I moved into my current house in 2000 I had News Crew show up the next day and ask how it felt to "live across the street from a convicted SEX OFFENDER". I of course said little or nothing as I didn't know the facts and didn't want to piss on anyone who might be innocent.

He wasn't, he's in prison, the house was sold. Local "Mr. Softee" ice cream man (a recent Russian immigrant) was arrested and convicted for molesting kids in his truck. Same truck my kid used to visit. Ian's 13 but I still sit with him in the car till the bus comes. Don't mind after the news about that smarmy guy abducting teenaged boys. Sigh...

You watch, educated and pray for the best. I'm not believer in mob rule or vigilante justice, I've seen that movie, personally, and don't like it. Work to strengthen the laws and penalties and always be vigilant.

Da Worfster

Chris0382
03-27-2007, 09:14 AM
The problem is you dont know whick offenders are dangerous and which are not. You can grab a girls *** at the bar and end up on the registry, They need to classify the offenders at certain levels so we can get an idea of who are the real dangerous ones.

Just to defend my staement LOL
Back in my days of highschool it seemed women grabbed guys butts just as much as men did also at least if you hang with a 60's generation crowd. Today it seems different so yes I can see why grabing a but may place you on the list.

leitmotiv
03-27-2007, 11:17 AM
"sex offender" defined in terms of the registry:

http://www.answers.com/topic/sex-offender

The simple fact is that by far the majority of the registrants are pervs of one flavor or another, not "*** grabbers" (and since when is grabbing the tush of a woman you don't know OK?). Psychiatrists and psychologists have known for years that "cure" for child molesters is nearly impossible and that they are near certain repeat offenders. That's what the Catholic Church discovered with its scandal---"reeducation" didn't work.

I have known males and females in therapy for life due to being repeatedly molested in childhood. Considering the profound damage these swine do, I think they ought to be forced to be clearly identified---their crime forfeited their right to privacy.

ViktorViktor
03-27-2007, 11:48 AM
Are there organized child molesting clubs in the States ? Just a few years ago there was a pretty big one revealed in Belgium (maybe Luxemborg?). They were well organized, and covered for/ assisted each other in order to achieve their ends. The saddest part was that one of the leaders of the ring turned out to be a police officer, who had successfully sabotaged efforts to find fellow molesters for years.

leitmotiv
03-27-2007, 01:28 PM
There sure is, and recently it won its right to exist thanks to the American Civil Liberties Union defense. The ACLU demonstrated their social even-handedness by defending American Nazis, but protecting an organization which even published information on how to covertly abuse children is insanity. The ACLU recently was embarrassed when the head of one of their chapters was arrested with pornography showing the rape of very young girls.

Platypus_1.JaVA
03-27-2007, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by ViktorViktor:
Are there organized child molesting clubs in the States ? Just a few years ago there was a pretty big one revealed in Belgium (maybe Luxemborg?). They were well organized, and covered for/ assisted each other in order to achieve their ends. The saddest part was that one of the leaders of the ring turned out to be a police officer, who had successfully sabotaged efforts to find fellow molesters for years.

It was Belgium indeed. One of the caught offenders was Marc Dutroux. Some girls where freed from his house where living in a secret wall in his house! They where poorly fed and almost died of starvation IIRC. They are grown up now and one of the girls wrote a book about the whole affair. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif

This whole pedophillia thing gets me so sad that I don't want to think about it. Yet, it is important to give it some tought. I think it is important to try to educate kids about not going with strange men/women and self-defence. (Yelling, kicking, running, anything goes)

Cr@p, it is sad http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

MEGILE
03-27-2007, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Worf101:
You watch, educated and pray for the best. I'm not believer in mob rule or vigilante justice, I've seen that movie, personally, and don't like it. Work to strengthen the laws and penalties and always be vigilant.

Da Worfster

There is no perfect solution, but I agree you with Worf.
Vigilanty can abuse their power like any group... people should put support into the laws of the land, not vigilanty justice.