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XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 06:42 PM
Crash at Duxford. I feel for the families.

XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 06:42 PM
Crash at Duxford. I feel for the families.

michapma
07-12-2003, 06:52 PM
That's tragic. There have been a number of threads about the CAF crash in Texas. What the specifics on the one at Duxford?

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XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 06:54 PM
yes, very sad, saw it on the news(belgium).
i think it was a fairey firefly comming out a split -s, but he was to low to pull up and level and crashed.
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XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 06:57 PM
a firefly crashed two dead /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

i was there and i saw it just before it crashed, it was doing a quite normal turn, looked away for a second and there was all this comotion and everybody stood up and said there was a crash, i saw some whisps of smoke, nothing major.

the show was suspended, after a while it carried on

it was great apart from the crash, of course.

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XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 06:58 PM
It was a 2-seat RN Fairey Firefly.
Looked like he failed to pull out of a dive. He was beginning to come out and basically belly down hard. 2 killed i think. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-12-2003, 08:29 PM
Oh man,

I just saw the video from the crash come down on the feed from CBS newspath. Is it me or is the Firefly a fairly big plane?

The guy tried to pull it out and actually got the plane level, but he went in flat and way too steep. The camera pulls back to show the dust cloud rising from the field while P40 and P51 go rolling by on the grass field.

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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 12:17 AM
Condolences to the families. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Don't know why they persist with these aerobatic aeroshow manoeuvers for these planes. Many are rare, all are built for short-life spans, and in this case the Firefly was hardly the world's most aerobatic plane.

At least the He111 crash was unavoidable. But losing a/c like these doing aerobatics is stupid. Static displays and flypasts are fine, but not aerobatics. People want to see them fly, not crash. Now another two are dead due to something pointless. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif


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XyZspineZyX
07-13-2003, 12:42 AM
I don't care about the aircrafts at all, they're old and have done their time and there's a limit for everything.

My condolences to the families and the ones left behind.

XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:39 PM
Wasn't really doing aerobatics
Aircraft should have been fine as it had just been out of service for a few years having a major overhaul

Don't be fooled by it's size it's quite manouverable
A great tradgedy, always put on a good show

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XyZspineZyX
07-14-2003, 08:50 PM
i think there should be better trained pilots to do this stuff, im an emotainal man, i hate it when this happens.
At least they died doing the thing they loved, flying.

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:27 AM
Haven't seen the footage but it has all the symptoms of a dynamic stall.

The natural tendency when the ground is coming at you fast is to pull back on the stick hard, this will often cause a dynamic stall. The planes nose attitude changes but it just keeps following the previous dive trajectory just with a more nose up attitude and bellies into the dirt.

nasty and very scary when it happens.