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M4ST3R0fPUPPi3S
06-09-2011, 01:36 AM
Okay just to start this is my first topic I've ever started, so forgive me if I mess up somehow..
All I can say is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...FDNAWA&feature=feedu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUAlFDNAWA&feature=feedu)

EDIT - Go to 1:35 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

(Sorry if somebody else already made a topic about this but I did search for it first)

RzaRecta357
06-09-2011, 01:41 AM
Might be.

Looks more than likely what we'll see before playing online though.

Once you cross that threshold I think I read then it shows a MP character.

Viddic staring us in the face for MP explaining things as we level up.

Big-Boss_777
06-09-2011, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by M4ST3R0fPUPPi3S:
Okay just to start this is my first topic I've ever started, so forgive me if I mess up somehow..
All I can say is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...FDNAWA&feature=feedu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTUAlFDNAWA&feature=feedu)
EDIT - Go to 1:35 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

(Sorry if somebody else already made a topic about this but I did search for it first)

Yea looking back at this video Id say maybe.. but i dont see how he can tie into multiplayer being shown as the "multiplayer demo" & not story

M4ST3R0fPUPPi3S
06-09-2011, 02:02 AM
Yeah you're probably right, I though it was Vidic at first but then I heard Tobuscus say "That's my dad?" or something like that... Just have to wait and see...

Edit:

The man says "it is a foregone conclusion that you will be the one... Once you cross that threshold,"
-and then the camera turns to the other screen showing a MP character.
Hmmmm....

wiccanlovely
06-09-2011, 02:23 AM
Okay, I'm really curious now http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_redface.gif I thought it was Vidic too for a second there. I just find it strange that they'd reveal him in multiplayer if that is in fact William Miles.

gsosolidk
06-09-2011, 02:37 AM
I think thats Willam.M.


EDIT: Oh and the skip from Vidic/William.M's face to the multilayer is obviously a cut! They're not part of same thing in my opinion.

wiccanlovely
06-09-2011, 02:41 AM
^Valid point. I guess it was just cut strangely.

Tzeentch_859
06-09-2011, 03:59 AM
Check out at about 0:38 to 0:47 on the tv behind. It goes from the Animus facility to inside the hideout in AC2 and someone is speaking, possibly the person everyone saw at 1:35.

Artemis88
06-09-2011, 04:12 AM
Honestly, I think it looks more like Vidic due to what looks like a labcoat he's wearing

***POSSIBLE SPOILER BELOW***

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb271/Artemis_090/ACRunknown.jpg


Edit: Sorry for the slightly large image

ajl992008
06-09-2011, 04:12 AM
looks likes vidic to me

Tzeentch_859
06-09-2011, 04:15 AM
It probably is but he looks so different though. Doesn't have that evil vibe.

wiccanlovely
06-09-2011, 04:19 AM
Yeah, that's definitely Vidic. I think the slight graphics upgrade (I think they look a wee bit higher quality at least) through us :P

Moultonborough
06-09-2011, 07:23 AM
I don't think it's Vidic. It just seems to different. But does anyone else think the guy who did the interview was really annoying or was it just me?

SixKeys
06-09-2011, 08:12 AM
It doesn't look much like Vidic to me. The eyes look very different. Considering how well they were able to replicate some voice actors' looks for the game character models (like Giovanni Auditore and Rodrigo Borgia), I'd be surprised if they changed Vidic's model to the point where he's unrecognizable from previous games.

twenty_glyphs
06-09-2011, 08:16 AM
He definitely looks similar to Vidic, but just too different, especially in the eyes. The eyes and face look more like Desmond to me, so I'm betting this is William Miles. Plus the dialogue, "it is a foregone conclusion that you will be the one... Once you cross that threshold" just screams as part of Desmond's prophesied role in the whole 2012 thing. William M. definitely seems to know a lot about this from the emails and conversations in Brotherhood.

As for the lab coat, he could be wearing it because he's similar to Vidic and working on his own version of the Animus. If the voice from the end of Brotherhood was him ("Am I the expert or not?"), then that seems likely.

I would bet that this video is a glimpse at one of Desmond's childhood memories that we'll get to see in the Black Room.

Artemis88
06-09-2011, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs:...Plus the dialogue, "it is a foregone conclusion that you will be the one... Once you cross that threshold" just screams as part of Desmond's prophesied role in the whole 2012 thing.

That's understandable. However, I'm thinking that if it is Vidic, he might be trying to persuade a templar recruit into working harder, convincing them that they will be the one to help bring the Assassins down.


Originally posted by twenty_glyphs: As for the lab coat, he could be wearing it because he's similar to Vidic and working on his own version of the Animus. If the voice from the end of Brotherhood was him ("Am I the expert or not?"), then that seems likely

Again fair point, but even though the urgency of the sitaution was starting to become, dare I say paramount, wouldn't Rebecca, Lucy or Shaun be wearing a lab coat even though there was no specific need for it?

twenty_glyphs
06-09-2011, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by Artemis88:
Again fair point, but even though the urgency of the sitaution was starting to become, dare I say paramount, wouldn't Rebecca, Lucy or Shaun be wearing a lab coat even though there was no specific need for it?

My gut tells me this video is from one of Desmond's childhood/teenage memories, not the present since he's in a coma presently. William M., just like Vidic, would be wearing a lab coat mostly just for show since there's obviously no tangible benefit to wearing a white lab coat. If he was researching the Animus and some kind of doctor/scientist, it makes sense that he would wear one everyday because that's what these guys wear. Lucy wasn't wearing one in the first game when she worked for Abstergo, so I see no reason why the other Assassins helping Desmond would need to.

MetalX2010
06-09-2011, 08:55 AM
umm, question: how did you guys know what's desmond's father's name?

Artemis88
06-09-2011, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by twenty_glyphs: My gut tells me this video is from one of Desmond's childhood/teenage memories, not the present since he's in a coma presently...

If it is a childhood/teenage memory, I assume since he's trying to repair his mind, it would have to very specific to come up.

gsosolidk
06-09-2011, 09:03 AM
I think it's William.M telling Desmond he's the one who's going to save the world/assassins or whatever. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SPOILERS FOR ACB:
And @MetalX, we don't think it's Desmond's father (although it is possible) but we think it's William.M, the man who sent you all the emails when you were in the hideout in ACB. And also the man who asks Desmond to be put back into the animus at the end of the Da Vinci pack.

And I know this is a bit off topic, but what was the name of the guy who wants to kill Desmond at the end of AC1? The bit where Lucy jumps in and helps you out? I forgot all about him!

lukaszep
06-09-2011, 09:05 AM
Everything suggests Vidic, but i think he looks too young to be vidic. Also his beard is shorter http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Artemis88
06-09-2011, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by gsosolidk:
And I know this is a bit off topic, but what was the name of the guy who wants to kill Desmond at the end of AC1? The bit where Lucy jumps in and helps you out? I forgot all about him!

Was it Alan Rikkin? They were definitely excutives of Abstergo in that other room

phil.llllll
06-09-2011, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by gsosolidk:
And I know this is a bit off topic, but what was the name of the guy who wants to kill Desmond at the end of AC1? The bit where Lucy jumps in and helps you out? I forgot all about him!

Some random Templar guy - maybe Alan Rikkin.

Mic_92
06-09-2011, 09:30 AM
It's Warren Vidic.

The guy in the video is very annoying.

ThaWhistle
06-09-2011, 09:38 AM
looks too much like vidic to not be vidic. i guess we'll see though

NuclearFuss
06-09-2011, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by gsosolidk:
I think it's William.M telling Desmond he's the one who's going to save the world/assassins or whatever. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SPOILERS FOR ACB:
And @MetalX, we don't think it's Desmond's father (although it is possible) but we think it's William.M, the man who sent you all the emails when you were in the hideout in ACB. And also the man who asks Desmond to be put back into the animus at the end of the Da Vinci pack.

And I know this is a bit off topic, but what was the name of the guy who wants to kill Desmond at the end of AC1? The bit where Lucy jumps in and helps you out? I forgot all about him!

Actually the head of the Assassins in the comic "The Fall", is Bill Miles. Bill is a nickname for William, so chances are that they are the same person. And obviously it's Desmond's father if they have the same last name.

phil.llllll
06-09-2011, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by sackboy411:
Actually the head of the Assassins in the comic "The Fall", is Bill Miles. Bill is a nickname for William, so chances are that they are the same person. And obviously it's Desmond's father if they have the same last name.

I don't recall them mentioning he was the head of the assassins.

MetalX2010
06-09-2011, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by gsosolidk:
I think it's William.M telling Desmond he's the one who's going to save the world/assassins or whatever. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SPOILERS FOR ACB:
And @MetalX, we don't think it's Desmond's father (although it is possible) but we think it's William.M, the man who sent you all the emails when you were in the hideout in ACB. And also the man who asks Desmond to be put back into the animus at the end of the Da Vinci pack.

And I know this is a bit off topic, but what was the name of the guy who wants to kill Desmond at the end of AC1? The bit where Lucy jumps in and helps you out? I forgot all about him!

oh no http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif I was very busy started in the university and had to watch walkthroughs of ACB... emails werent included http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

gsosolidk
06-09-2011, 11:19 AM
They weren't too important. All we learnt was, assassins are literally global. There's some in Brazil, some here and there (you can tell I've forgotten the other mentioned countries :L )
Some of the assassins in some countries aren't doing too well... And he just sent us the updates on their situations http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

NuclearFuss
06-09-2011, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by phil.llllll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sackboy411:
Actually the head of the Assassins in the comic "The Fall", is Bill Miles. Bill is a nickname for William, so chances are that they are the same person. And obviously it's Desmond's father if they have the same last name.

I don't recall them mentioning he was the head of the assassins. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He was definitely high up though.

kriegerdesgottes
06-09-2011, 11:51 AM
I am almost positive that is not Vidic. He looks too different and the things he seems to be saying are things someone would be saying to Desmond so I can't believe I didn't even notice this before and I've seen this at least 3 times before. Looks interesting.

cless711
06-09-2011, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by sackboy411:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by phil.llllll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sackboy411:
Actually the head of the Assassins in the comic "The Fall", is Bill Miles. Bill is a nickname for William, so chances are that they are the same person. And obviously it's Desmond's father if they have the same last name.

I don't recall them mentioning he was the head of the assassins. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He was definitely high up though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You also have to remember that in AC1 Desmond mentions to Lucy that the people he lived with weren't his parents and more like his wardens.

gsosolidk
06-09-2011, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by cless711:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sackboy411:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by phil.llllll:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sackboy411:
Actually the head of the Assassins in the comic "The Fall", is Bill Miles. Bill is a nickname for William, so chances are that they are the same person. And obviously it's Desmond's father if they have the same last name.

I don't recall them mentioning he was the head of the assassins. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He was definitely high up though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

You also have to remember that in AC1 Desmond mentions to Lucy that the people he lived with weren't his parents and more like his wardens. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Doesn't that make it all the more likely that William.M IS his father? I mean, if Desmond knew his parents, and his dads name was William, wouldn't the first thing he say be "That's my dad?" or "Is it my dad?" The fact that he doesn't know his dad means his dad's name can be William and he wouldn't know....

I'm frustrated because I can't word that better :L But do you get what I mean?

Subject J80
06-09-2011, 01:39 PM
Has everyone forgotten that when the game was released the Ubi stated that the mulitplayer had a deeper narrative story to it and we would find out more about Abstergo and how they have become the companyy they are today...

The more you play the multiplayer the more rewards you got on the narrative as an Abstergo employee...

That man is Warren Vidic for sure.....

It would be crazy for Ubi to give away spoilers on William M. this soon. That's just laughable.....

BK-110
06-09-2011, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by cless711:
You also have to remember that in AC1 Desmond mentions to Lucy that the people he lived with weren't his parents and more like his wardens.

That isn't meant to be taken literally. This is the dialogue:

Lucy: Don't you miss your parents?

Desmond: No. Far as I'm concerned, they weren't my parents. They were my wardens, and I was their prisoner.

So he means that he didn't feel that they were his parents. But they WERE still his parents. So he DID know them.

cless711
06-09-2011, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by BK-110:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cless711:
You also have to remember that in AC1 Desmond mentions to Lucy that the people he lived with weren't his parents and more like his wardens.

That isn't meant to be taken literally. This is the dialogue:

Lucy: Don't you miss your parents?

Desmond: No. Far as I'm concerned, they weren't my parents. They were my wardens, and I was their prisoner.

So he means that he didn't feel that they were his parents. But they WERE still his parents. So he DID know them. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmm I see

AnthonyA85
06-09-2011, 05:15 PM
It looks kinda like Vidic to me.

And the Templar in the briefing room who wanted Desmond wasted was Alan Rikkin, CEO of Abstergo and Templar Grand Master (so Desmond will probably have to kill him at some piont)

And the guy giving that interview (Toby Turner), he's just a really lucky fan of the AC series http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif, I hope he does another Literal Trailer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif loved the last one he did for ACB.

twenty_glyphs
06-09-2011, 11:20 PM
I just read a new article that just about confirms this guy is not William M. They say they played the multiplayer demo at E3 and it starts with an Abstergo scientist telling them that if they play their cards right they can get into Abstergo's inner circle and learn a super secret about the world. Sounds about right for this guy in the video. I still don't think it's Vidic, but that point is moot since we know it's not William M.

http://www.g4tv.com/games/xbox...ands-on-impressions/ (http://www.g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/65220/assassins-creed-revelations/articles/74695/assassins-creed-revelations-multiplayer-hands-on-impressions/)

DualFace
06-10-2011, 01:06 AM
Soooo, we're gonna have Vidic running around in MP, in a labcoat? LOL

CRUDFACE
06-10-2011, 02:45 AM
I'm not saying it's not vidic or it is, anything is possible...but he doesn't act like Vidic, yah know? Evene to Lucy, whose life he saved and who he trusted, he was always yelling at her angrily and being an all knowing ******bag to everyone but his superiors. This guy who's talking to us is WAAAAAAY to supportive looking and his eyes look all sad and puppy doggish.

If that was Vidic, in my opinion, he'd be strapping me to that animus and telling me to deal with it if I want to become stronger. Just sayin...

xepa105
06-10-2011, 03:26 AM
It's Vidic. Or some other Abstergo guy.

In the IGN Live interview Alexandre Amancio said that they wanted to give the Multiplayer a storyline. Basically you are a Templar being trained the same way Desmond is, but in that huge Abstergo warehouse full of Animuses (Animi?). It's not a blank menu anymore, now there is some type of story arch throughout so you can know what is going on behind the scenes at Abstergo.

Since it was multiplayer that Toby was playing, it's just a matter of putting two and two together. That's likely the intro animation for the multiplayer with Vidic saying you will be a great Templar once you are done with the training.

IGN interview here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGvgJbdBbNc (Multiplayer talk at 7:50. Specific talk about storyline in MP at 8:09)

SixKeys
06-10-2011, 05:11 AM
Originally posted by t260z:
I'm not saying it's not vidic or it is, anything is possible...but he doesn't act like Vidic, yah know? Evene to Lucy, whose life he saved and who he trusted, he was always yelling at her angrily and being an all knowing ******bag to everyone but his superiors. This guy who's talking to us is WAAAAAAY to supportive looking and his eyes look all sad and puppy doggish.

If that was Vidic, in my opinion, he'd be strapping me to that animus and telling me to deal with it if I want to become stronger. Just sayin...

I can imagine Vidic being more smarmy and slick if he thinks it'll get him what he wants. In the ACB multiplayer tutorial he was all "Good! You're learning fast!" and other such compliments. He might have grudgingly trusted Lucy, but he also knew she was there against her will and not because she truly believed in the templar ideology. That's why he always treated her like she was beneath him.

M4ST3R0fPUPPi3S
06-10-2011, 05:35 AM
Personally I'm open to both theories, thats why I created the topic, to see what everyone else thought. While it seems most likely to be Warren Vidic redone or another Templar scientist, another video may answer the "Why would they show it at a multiplayer demo?":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGDVTcdUyWg

Skip to 2:03 and listen to the scriptwriter talking - He says that he was doing a Single player guided tour

I'm not calling this evidence, just a reason to keep open minded this early before game release :P

RzaRecta357
06-10-2011, 11:37 AM
It's clearly vidic guys. Cmon now. Quit TRYING to believe it's Desmond's dad.

First off, they wouldn't show something that important finally when they've only barely teased him for 4 games and 3 comics.

Second, He's wearing a lab coat....staring you in the face EXACTLY the way he would in the Templar animus.

Desmond is usually in a chair in a nice comfy animus. Even in the back of the truck.

cless711
06-10-2011, 11:49 AM
Yeah its pretty obvious that its either Vidic or some other Abstergo employee. I remember in the Gamespot interview, Alex Amancio said that the multiplayer is about the Templars and will show some story of what happens in Abstergo or something like that

CRUDFACE
06-10-2011, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by M4ST3R0fPUPPi3S:
Personally I'm open to both theories, thats why I created the topic, to see what everyone else thought. While it seems most likely to be Warren Vidic redone or another Templar scientist, another video may answer the "Why would they show it at a multiplayer demo?":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGDVTcdUyWg

Skip to 2:03 and listen to the scriptwriter talking - He says that he was doing a Single player guided tour

I'm not calling this evidence, just a reason to keep open minded this early before game release :P

When he says that. they switch over to a new part of the booth, with the gameplay shifting to the E3 booth whocasing the trailer for ACR which probably leads up to the singleplayer stuff.

Toby and them were talking around the multiplayer stuff.

rileypoole1234
06-10-2011, 07:33 PM
EVERYBODY LOOK AT THIS ON THE VIDEO! At about 0:50 on the video, we see a screen from the truth from AC2. Interesting huh? It's right after he says "...my lazy vlog." and flash, theres Adam and Eve running through Eden. It's interesting stuff on that screen behind them.

GallopRider
06-11-2011, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by cless711:
Yeah its pretty obvious that its either Vidic or some other Abstergo employee. I remember in the Gamespot interview, Alex Amancio said that the multiplayer is about the Templars and will show some story of what happens in Abstergo or something like that

Hmm, maybe. But in the video, Toby (whatever his YouTube screen-name is) does say "Hi Dad!" Maybe it's a joke. Or maybe he just gave away a huge spoiler...
We shall know in November...

reini03
06-11-2011, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by GallopRider:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cless711:
Yeah its pretty obvious that its either Vidic or some other Abstergo employee. I remember in the Gamespot interview, Alex Amancio said that the multiplayer is about the Templars and will show some story of what happens in Abstergo or something like that

Hmm, maybe. But in the video, Toby (whatever his YouTube screen-name is) does say "Hi Dad!" Maybe it's a joke. Or maybe he just gave away a huge spoiler...
We shall know in November... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He (his YT name is Tobuscus by the way) thereafter said "Did you model him after my dad?", however. To me, that points out that he was joking. But then there's that way he looked at Gabe...

ULT1M4T3
06-20-2011, 12:26 PM
Found an interview where you can better see the multiplayer intro or whatever that is. It's the same cutscene as in the interview with Toby but you can't see Vidic there though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02-nSlK49Ks
(Skip to 1:46)

It was also discussed on the Wiki Here (http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Subject20/eh.....)
There's also some better quality image there.

beatledude210
06-20-2011, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Moultonborough:
I don't think it's Vidic. It just seems to different. But does anyone else think the guy who did the interview was really annoying or was it just me? His name is Tobuscus, and he is AMAZING! I can understand how you think he's annoying though, if you watch his other video's he acts the same way. He's done a number of literal trailers that are BIG hits on youtube. I'm surprised you haven't heard of him, he did the Assassin's creed brotherhood literal trailer and is currently working on a revelations one. Look him up, he's my favorite youtuber.

EmmaBemma
06-21-2011, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by MagnifyHope:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GallopRider:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by cless711:
Yeah its pretty obvious that its either Vidic or some other Abstergo employee. I remember in the Gamespot interview, Alex Amancio said that the multiplayer is about the Templars and will show some story of what happens in Abstergo or something like that

Hmm, maybe. But in the video, Toby (whatever his YouTube screen-name is) does say "Hi Dad!" Maybe it's a joke. Or maybe he just gave away a huge spoiler...
We shall know in November... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

He (his YT name is Tobuscus by the way) thereafter said "Did you model him after my dad?", however. To me, that points out that he was joking. But then there's that way he looked at Gabe... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a joke.