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Wildnoob
05-18-2010, 08:49 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gm3zHFuTQk

This is a very interesting documentary.

I just don't agree with the Russian sources that insist in claim the Fw-190 was an inferior plane, given the fact most units were in the very vulnerable jabo role.

Metatron_123
05-18-2010, 10:53 AM
Watching now-Great footage and charming mispronunciations! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

''Advantage of the german aircraft was that it was all made of metal. Due to lack of duraluminum, wood was used in the construction of the Soviet fighters, a more heavier material. But what to do?''

Lol.

Uzunov
05-18-2010, 01:14 PM
Wow, the site is a gold mine for russian and soviet aviation documentaries:

http://shop.wingstv.ru

Treetop64
05-18-2010, 02:29 PM
What an incredible find! Thanks for sharing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Great accent by the narrator. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Metatron_123
05-18-2010, 03:07 PM
Some of the stuff he says is hilarious: 'Called by the airfield jokers, 'the grand piano'!

Treetop64
05-18-2010, 09:43 PM
Learned something new in this documentary. I had no idea about the post-war polar ice air operations between the USA and USSR.

general_kalle
05-19-2010, 07:48 AM
looks like great stuff but he says E when he should say I lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Ba5tard5word
05-19-2010, 10:40 AM
Pretty decent looking but jeez it would have been nice if they'd hired a native English speaker.

Billy_DeLyon
05-19-2010, 11:22 AM
Great find! Very interesting, I'm looking forward to watching the series.

Good video quality too. Looks decent in full-screen view, always a plus (and never a given) on yutube.

I'm enjoying the narration too, although from the perspective of a native english speaker it does detract somewhat from the seriousness of the subject matter. It reminds me of the "Rickenbacker" character in the ROF tutorial.

Treetop64
05-19-2010, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by Ba5tard5word:
Pretty decent looking but jeez it would have been nice if they'd hired a native English speaker.

Nah... I like this guy better! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
His english is a source of entertainment itself. Though, I shouldn't talk: I don't know a lick of Russian... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

TinyTim
05-19-2010, 11:52 AM
Russia and russian speaking countries are a market large enough, thank God they even care about translating it into English.

But, yeah, the narrator is still funny as hell.

Tooz_69GIAP
05-19-2010, 12:19 PM
I like the narrator, it adds a certain something to the programme. Some really interesting stuff in this, and I think I will watch the other ones after this.

Uzunov
05-19-2010, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by general_kalle:
looks like great stuff but he says E when he should say I lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

That is because in Russian the letter of I (like in I-16) is pronounced exactly like E sounds in English. In other words, he is saying "I" and you are hearing "E". Mistake on his part, no doubt.

horseback
05-19-2010, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by Uzunov:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by general_kalle:
looks like great stuff but he says E when he should say I lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

That is because in Russian the letter of I (like in I-16) is pronounced exactly like E sounds in English. In other words, he is saying "I" and you are hearing "E". Mistake on his part, no doubt. </div></BLOCKQUOTE> You could also say that the English "I" sound only occurs in Russian between two vowels as part of a longer word; for a native Russian speaker it would be hard to reproduce that particular sound by itself.

Whenever I am tempted to belittle someone's attempts to reproduce English speech, I think of a Ugandan acquaintance who tried to teach me a few words of his tribal language. I was having problems reproducing one of those back of the throat click sounds, and he said "Oh come on. That's not hard; I had to learn how to pronounce enthusiastic."

It's all a matter of perspective.

cheers

horseback

Wildnoob
05-19-2010, 10:48 PM
Well, at least he pronounces the names of the Russian planes correctly. Something rarely seen on the western media.

For those who not know the pronunces, a Russian member posted here


La = lah, like lalalalalala. If you want to get really russian don't roll your l Wink
Il = kinda like "eel", not I.L.
Pe = "peh"
MiG = pretty obvious
Tu = too
LaGG = like "lag" but with lalala
Su = soo (like too)

ggb123
05-20-2010, 12:17 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/crackwhip.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/compsmash.gif

Awsome documentary !

irR4tiOn4L
05-20-2010, 04:24 AM
I think the criticisms of his English are pretty unfair. For example, he didnt say 'Called by the airfield jokers, 'the grand piano', he said 'Nicknamed by the airfield jokers "a grand piano"'

Changing the syntax sure makes it sound funnier, but apart from his accent i think its just unfair.

Although I am far more proficient in English than my native tongue, I do still speak Czech, another slavic language. All i can say is; imagine what youd sound like in Russian.

A game called Arma II has the distinction of doing American accents in Czech. If you thought Czechs/Russians speaking in English are bad, you havent heard what English speakers sound like trying to speak the fairly complex Russian/Czech

Treetop64
05-20-2010, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by irR4tiOn4L:
I think the criticisms of his English are pretty unfair. For example, he didnt say 'Called by the airfield jokers, 'the grand piano', he said 'Nicknamed by the airfield jokers "a grand piano"

OK, you're sweating semantics here, dood. Besides, most here take a lighthearted view of his accent; he's not being criticized for it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

irR4tiOn4L
05-21-2010, 12:59 AM
Originally posted by Treetop64:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by irR4tiOn4L:
I think the criticisms of his English are pretty unfair. For example, he didnt say 'Called by the airfield jokers, 'the grand piano', he said 'Nicknamed by the airfield jokers "a grand piano"

OK, you're sweating semantics here, dood. Besides, most here take a lighthearted view of his accent; he's not being criticized for it. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, on second thought most people here seem pretty nderstanding actually. Also, I guess it is pretty funny the way he talks in the reel http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

rfxcasey
05-21-2010, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by Wildnoob:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gm3zHFuTQk

This is a very interesting documentary.

I just don't agree with the Russian sources that insist in claim the Fw-190 was an inferior plane, given the fact most units were in the very vulnerable jabo role.

While I definitely agree this is a great documentary, the real gold here is this MrMilitaryAviation youtube channel you just turned me on to. WOW, 1500 plus videos. http://www.youtube.com/user/MrMilitaryAviation

wheelsup_cavu
05-26-2010, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by rfxcasey:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wildnoob:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gm3zHFuTQk

This is a very interesting documentary.

I just don't agree with the Russian sources that insist in claim the Fw-190 was an inferior plane, given the fact most units were in the very vulnerable jabo role.

While I definitely agree this is a great documentary, the real gold here is this MrMilitaryAviation youtube channel you just turned me on to. WOW, 1500 plus videos. http://www.youtube.com/user/MrMilitaryAviation </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I noticed in his comments section that MrMilitaryAviation has started a new channel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/AviationMilitaire


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