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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:22 AM
thoughts

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:22 AM
thoughts

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:23 AM
Hammer: The super troll

Hunter82
07-30-2003, 12:23 AM
besides the obvious?

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:23 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:30 AM
Hmm. This looks familiar /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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Hunter82
07-30-2003, 12:31 AM
damn I've misplaced my fly rod pic....ahh never mind

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:34 AM
Must be a yak flyer.

aka/theGunfighter

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:38 AM
most planes do ... its measurable

there is a "suction" gauge right there in the cockpit

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:41 AM
Ham sucks!

Thoughts?

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:49 AM
The 109 is a perfectly good aircraft. It's more probable that you suck.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:57 AM
WalterMitty wrote:
- Must be a yak flyer.
-
- aka/theGunfighter

I believe you mean Yak-3 flyer.

Other yaks are by no means uber planes. try a 9K sometimes.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 01:01 AM
BuzzU wrote:
- Ham sucks!
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- Thoughts?
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-
- Da Buzz

Well, depends on how ham is cooked. honey baked ham is good, by the way, I'm not Ham, I'm Hammer. Two different people! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ---Hammer

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 01:02 AM
AeroBob wrote:
- The 109 is a perfectly good aircraft. It's more
- probable that you suck.
-
-

Naw, I don't suck. I'm sorry if you were looking for a date for the weekend! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif ---Hammer

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 01:15 AM
I shorten everybodys name Ham../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 02:01 AM
109's do suck. I look forward to escorting them with my Bf 110 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif .

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 02:10 AM
You can stick with the n00b planes instead. As you can see by my sig and many others, the 109 is held in very high esteem by many pilots by its incredible versatility. If they had sucked, they wouldn't have produced over 30000 of them!

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 02:20 AM
Alot of people think the 109 sucks. I don't really care. The plane just feels right to me, and is fun to fly. The F4 is my favorite. In it's year there are few planes as good.

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 03:55 AM
And it would not have been considered one of deadliest planes in the world. Early in the war THE deadliest. Then the water rose and washed the troll out from under his bridge and into the sea where the sharks ate him all up. And they all lived happily ever after.

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 04:07 AM
whats a troll?


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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 04:08 AM
I've just forced myself to learn the 109K so that I may participate in discussions just like this with my own opinion.

My opinion is....you are clueless.

I'm untouchable when I make them play the game my way, which is zooming down in front of them to get their attention then booming back up where I cause them to stall.

I love doing it to La-7's which I flew the week before to learn. (I'm normally an early war knife fighter)

Great plane the La-7, just don't ever chase the 109K above 2000 meters with it.

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 04:50 AM
The 109 is a just fine. Granted it is hard for a noob/idiot to fly, but other than that it's great.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 05:05 AM
And I thought it was gravity

HE WHO DIES WITH THE MOST TOYS WINS

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 06:47 AM
BuzzU wrote:
- Ham sucks!
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- Thoughts?
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-
-


Nah, he blows.

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 06:52 AM
Quiet you SWINE!

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 07:42 AM
well it aint that great at turning ........

the F4 & E series are ok at turning but still get beaten by a LOT of other planes

lucky the BF climb well LOL

i wonder just how popular the BF would be in FB if you had to fly it in DF servers with its DF specs ??

I.E. NO Mk108 in the nose LOL

dont know why ppl think the Yak 3 is a noob plane
theres only one real Noob plane & that is the Hurricane

still even the Hurri needs some sort of advantage i suppose

Luftwhiners will never be happy till their planes are best at everything LMAO

i fly BFs as much as i fly P-39s/Yaks/P47s/LAs/FWs

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07-30-2003, 10:13 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:10 PM
Fight in the vertical plane and keep up the speed to stay above your opponent. Do not stay and mix it or turn with the Ruskies, or they will have you for breakfast. Just hit and run and get into another firing pass from above. Stay high and wait. Paitence.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 12:23 PM
BuzzU wrote:
- Alot of people think the 109 sucks. I don't really
- care. The plane just feels right to me, and is fun
- to fly. The F4 is my favorite. In it's year there
- are few planes as good.
-
- Da Buzz


And the F4 was Barkhorn's favourite too. It can also be the exception to the 'fight in the vertical' rule. Although the I-16 & I-153 can clearly out-turn it, other contemporary Soviet fighters can't seriously out-perform it in any way. There's not a lot they can do to get away from a 109F; they need friends & teamwork.

The 109s seem about right to me: pretty good to excellent, depending on version.

Oh Buzz, to keep in line with your previous sigs, shouldn't this one be entitled, 'the plane that lost the war?' /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

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07-30-2003, 12:40 PM
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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 01:48 PM
What turns to stone by sunlight ?


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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 01:49 PM
Maj_Death wrote:
- 109's do suck. I look forward to escorting them with
- my Bf 110 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif .
-

Now that's a man's man!

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 02:00 PM
VOL_Jon wrote:
- The 109 is a just fine. Granted it is hard for a
- noob/idiot to fly, but other than that it's great.
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-
It dont suck..But its far from hard. IMO the easiest planes to fly are 109k, LAs, Yaks, Hurris. These are all noob planes IMO. Now noobplane is not a bad word so no need to flame. Just that noobs fly these mostly cause they are the easiest and most forgiving. I can kill them all in a P-47 /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 03:12 PM
I've always wondered. Why DO people troll like this? Do they actually think on some level that it's funny? Beats me. Pretty pathetic. I don't think this guy REALLY thinks the plane sucks. He's just posting that so all us 109 guys will come on and flame him and defend the 109. Trolling like this when it's not an obvious joke a la "The P-51 Won The War" thread is kind of a jerk-off thing to do.

The sad thing is that people actually fall for it and keep dorks like this entertained.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 03:32 PM
If I had the best screwdriver in the world, and I decided to try to use it to open a can of soup, would the world's best screwdriver be a good can opener?

If the Bf109 sucks for you, you're using it the wrong way.

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 04:55 PM
So so! gents!
Just keep thinking happy thoughts!!

The patch will come soon.....U just have to mesure time in "Olegtime" . /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
This IS a disguised patchwhining iznt it???

XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 05:26 PM
Sure 109K is an easy plane to fly... trust me, i`m a n00b /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif and i know!!

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 10:44 PM
Jerk offs like YOU Lilhorse? I noticed that YOU replied to the post. Does that make YOU a *******? When you people start taking this thing so incredibly serious, then you have a problem. If all you want it a message bored (yes pun intended) for techno GEEKS to post about how they think they're real fighter pilots, then go start one. Last time I looked, I'm not the only one having fun. If you had any gray matter, you'd notice that I make fun of myself as well. Dude, grow a sense of humor. You'll live longer.---Hammer

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 10:48 PM
I think someone hit a nerve.

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 10:53 PM
Buzz,
I guess you're right. It chaps my hide sometimes to see idiot responses like that. I make a simple statement "109's suck" and get a variety of replies. Anywhere from fun (which is what the whole thing was meant for) to the attitude "you killed my brother you sombeitch, now I'm gonna kill you". LIGHTEN UP FOLKS. It is a GAME. Like Woody said.."YOU ARE A TOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY". I like FB just as much as the next guy (as long as the next guy isn't Lilhorse), but come on. Don't be so friggin defensive. It always amazes me how some people can get. People, you got to learn to relax. Don't take things so seriously. And by the way...if you don't like the topic, stay the heck off the string! Pretty simple??---Hammer

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 10:55 PM
That nerve is still vibrating.

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XyZspineZyX
07-30-2003, 11:01 PM
Ohmmmmmm, Ohmmmmmmm,
Ok, I'm better now. I've just meditated, got my center of focus back, and when that failed I kicked the crap out of one of my co-workers! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
For the record...I DON"T think 109's suck, I think they/were a deadly opponent in the skies. It was a JOKE. And yes, I CAN effectively fly them. That is, once I get them off the ground!---Hammer

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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 03:15 AM
Vacuum cleaners suck, 109s don't.
Trust me I've tried both/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif


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07-31-2003, 03:24 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 06:29 AM
Trolling Verboten.



Hammer459 wrote:
- Ohmmmmmm, Ohmmmmmmm,
- Ok, I'm better now. I've just meditated, got my
- center of focus back, and when that failed I kicked
- the crap out of one of my co-workers! /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif
- For the record...I DON"T think 109's suck, I think
- they/were a deadly opponent in the skies. It was a
- JOKE. And yes, I CAN effectively fly them. That
- is, once I get them off the ground!---Hammer
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07-31-2003, 08:15 AM
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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 08:49 AM
Its good fun in the G-6 doing a spiral climb with an La5 on your tail, they stall(the La5) of course because the 109 climbs better, and then you drop back onto them and blow them out of the sky.
You can suck them in every time especially the noobs that thought the La5 was uber, compared to the G-6.
Trick is you got to know how to fly the 109.

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XyZspineZyX
07-31-2003, 10:59 AM
Artic_Wulf wrote:
- Its good fun in the G-6 doing a spiral climb with an
- La5 on your tail, they stall(the La5) of course
- because the 109 climbs better, and then you drop
- back onto them and blow them out of the sky.
- You can suck them in every time especially the noobs
- that thought the La5 was uber, compared to the G-6.
- Trick is you got to know how to fly the 109.
-

Yea well try that against LA5FN in '43.. and you will get blown out of the sky.. (mostly)


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