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JustBrett
01-18-2005, 04:43 PM
As far as we know, Myst IV: Revelation is doing just fine in the marketplace. There is certainly room for another game -- if not two or three -- between the end of Myst IV and the beginning of Uru. So, why is Cyan stepping in now to pull the plug on further development by Ubi?

JustBrett
01-18-2005, 04:43 PM
As far as we know, Myst IV: Revelation is doing just fine in the marketplace. There is certainly room for another game -- if not two or three -- between the end of Myst IV and the beginning of Uru. So, why is Cyan stepping in now to pull the plug on further development by Ubi?

Grehn
01-18-2005, 05:50 PM
Well, I might get flamed for this - but I, for one, am glad that Cyan is ending it. I mean, I'm not glad that the story is ending at ALL but if it has to end, then Cyan should be the ones to do it. MYST is their baby - always will be.

I'm not happy at ALL with the direction that Ubi has taken the MYST story. Cyan started it and Cyan should end it.

Grehn

DebbieDec2003
01-18-2005, 07:42 PM
Yes, Brett, one wonders "why now"? And yes Grehn, better "now" than 10 sequels down the pipe. Maybe they are just thinking ahead? You just have to look at any gaming site and you see FPS's are the top sellers (and Sim's 2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif ) So, maybe the timing is good to do something else for Cyan. Who knows? They won't tell us until they are good and ready. Better to end the Myst series on a high note.

Coronagold
01-18-2005, 07:49 PM
Call it artistic burnout. Cyan still has reign over D'ni & Releeshan. And also anything else they can create.

I'm kinda anxious to see what else they can come up with. To come up with something as simplistic in navigation, & in your (senior moment.....what the heck do you call your collection of stuff that you collect in an adventure game? (...tries Jim Carey method of memory grabbing ..."The stuff, that I collect in my adventure game, is called nnaaaahhreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!! ...it's called, a plhhhooorrahhhhblthgmmmmm! ... I can't do it.))

Inventory. Man, I'm old. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

I know they're not gonna do some kinda other Aura or Syberia or Longest Journey. That style is done. I think they like to break molds as they create new games. Their newest games are always created to make their last game look like yesterdays' news.

I'd like to think one of the DRC was listening when I said in Uru beta (while waiting for Rand to show up in the City) or on the DRC site that I thought they were trying to 'perfect' the bugs. That is, trying to incorporate them into the game. Not nasty bugs, but visual bugs. And enabling us to communicate across replicate shards with different info within each. To harness a 'stable' chaos engine within the game to create alternate realities for every player, with different results for everyone. A splash of time.

And having said that, I will move on to the next new post. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

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No, I will edit.

I know that's an incredible undertaking. Something like that would be as big as Mudpie itself.
Meh, that's the way I think. I think of the Gareeshan Well flying bug. If you had a game that was based on, like, the randomness of the Dock or Islands Relto pages' appearance factor with enhanced bugs, that would be okay in my book. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

JustBrett
01-19-2005, 07:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ToriaUru:
So, maybe the timing is good to do something else for Cyan. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
But, Cyan could easily have gone and done something else while allowing Ubi to keep making Myst games. I think Ubi has already proven that they can be trusted, with minimal amounts of creative input from Cyan, to make good Myst stories. So, why kill it all?

I see your point about FPSs and Sims being the two biggest sellers. OTOH, does that mean everyone in the games business should stop making everything else? As the old quote goes, the woods would be awfully silent if only those birds that sang best were allowed to be heard.

Alahmnat
01-19-2005, 01:01 PM
Well, the thing you have to remember is that Cyan wanted Myst to end with Riven. They were done after that, and regularly resisted publisher pressure to create another sequel (besides, they were busy with what was at that point Mudpie). Finally, as a concession to the publisher and the fans, they caved and allowed Mattel to shop around for a developer for Myst 3. Not that their motives were entirely altruistic... more Myst games meant more royalties, which meant more money to make Mudpie http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

I think Cyan's decision to end the Myst series rather definitively was a good one on their part because Atrus' story is about as axhausted as it can get before things start seming contrived (the running joke in the community several years ago about more sequels was that eventually it'd get to be something utterly silly like having to find Atrus' nail clippers because he had a hangnail). We've tied up all of the loose ends with family members and dealt with a few of his closet-skeletons. I think the poor guy deserves a break, y'know? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

To that end, Cyan wants to leave Myst alone from now on. That's not to say they won't do another D'ni-related game in the future, but after 13 years and a rather enormous blow to their creative drive with the shutdown of Uru Live, I think the folks at Cyan want to move on to something else. Now, the trick to this is that nobody else has a lisence to create any other D'ni-related games besides Myst 6, which isn't going to happen apparently (and 5 is as good a number as any to go out on http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif). Cyan holds exclusive rights to content development related to some rather important places, and I would be surprised of the Cavern wasn't one of them. That kind of puts a damper on anyone else making a D'ni-related game, so the D'niverse is just going to have to lay silent for a while as Cyan flexes their creative muscle into a new area.

Mystical Explorer
01-19-2005, 02:08 PM
I know adventure games don't sell as well these days, so maybe that's a reason why Cyan is ending the series. I for one would still consider it a VERY sad waste if Cyan departs from what they do so well and make an FPS game or similar. I think Cyan should stick with adventure games, even if they aren't Myst games.

T.O.O.O.
01-19-2005, 05:27 PM
Wow - thirteen years! Has it really been that long?

I just hope Myst V isn't going to be the kind of game that (almost) requires a Cray supercomputer to play, like Myst IV did.

Alahmnat
01-19-2005, 09:04 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by T.O.O.O.:
Wow - thirteen years! Has it really been that long?

I just hope Myst V isn't going to be the kind of game that (almost) requires a Cray supercomputer to play, like Myst IV did. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
A 700 MHz processor isn't anything NEAR a Cray supercomputer, TOOO http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif. Revelation actually has lower requirements than Uru did (not by much, but it did). 800 MHz and a 32-meg graphics card is probably as slow as you'll be able to go with End of Ages, but that number may go up or down depending on what techno-wizardry Cyan can pull off versus how complex the Ages are. Pretty much any computer purchased in the last 3 years is going to be able to run this... my 1.4 GHz is almost 3 years old now and it was high mid-range at the time it was bought.

ivanxuereb
01-19-2005, 11:25 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Pretty much any computer purchased in the last 3 years is going to be able to run this. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Oh no, better get a new computer then.
"Dad...."

themilkybarkid_
01-20-2005, 10:15 PM
What are the system requirements for End of Ages?

ivanxuereb
01-20-2005, 11:24 PM
There is no official list yet. This is just a speculation.

Thasaid0n
01-21-2005, 04:54 AM
Well, since this is suspected to be the "final" version of this great saga, which btw I have enjoyed very VERY much from the beginning...

I take it this also means there will be no more books released (other than the 3 allready released) ?
That would surely be a shame, since I enjoyed reading those too.

Alahmnat
01-21-2005, 12:38 PM
I think in response to that, Thasaid0n, Cyan would refer you to their unofficial company motto, which is "We'll see http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif". At the moment there are no plans to revisit the D'ni universe in game or print form to my knowledge, but that doesn't mean someone won't change their minds in the future. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

ArienMalfoy
01-21-2005, 01:28 PM
I have to admit that I'm a tad worried about the fact that Myst V is coming hot on the heels of Myst IV. We're used to several years between Myst games. What does it mean that there will only be one year between IV and V? Are they rushing it? Were they devloped simultaenously? I just hope this isn't a this-is-the-last-one-so-let's-just-get-it-over-with type of thing. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif


I for one was very saddened to see that V will be the last.

GadrenURU
01-21-2005, 01:37 PM
yes, Myst IV and Myst V have been worked on at the same time, but it's not the same group. Team Revelation from Ubisoft made Myst IV, and Cyan is working on Myst V...so there's no need to worry about that.

i think people are being way too nervous and worried about this. just relax, and trust Cyan... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Alkonium
01-21-2005, 03:23 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by themilkybarkid_:
What are the system requirements for End of Ages? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I heard directly from a Cyanist(on another forum) that they are very close to Uru.

ArienMalfoy
01-23-2005, 01:52 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GadrenURU:
yes, Myst IV and Myst V have been worked on at the same time, but it's not the same group. Team Revelation from Ubisoft made Myst IV, and Cyan is working on Myst V...so there's no need to worry about that. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Ahhh...well, I feel better about that then. Usually, in the world of movies anyway, a sequel coming hot on the heels of a previous installment is not a good thing.

But then again, there hasn't been a single Myst game yet that I've not been absolutely thrilled with, so I don't know what I'm worried about.