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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:40 AM
I've been flying full real as of lately and the other day I slid in to wingman position with one of my teammates...We were flying along into enemy territory when my guy breaks off to engage. I follow him in and after like ten to twelve seconds I finally spot the plane he's set up to boom and zoom..

I have been enjoying the eye candy with my radeon 9500 pro and settings on excellent (not perfect mind you) but now I am wondering if I am still at a disadvantage.

Any advice is much appreciated..

Tanks

Airmikey

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:40 AM
I've been flying full real as of lately and the other day I slid in to wingman position with one of my teammates...We were flying along into enemy territory when my guy breaks off to engage. I follow him in and after like ten to twelve seconds I finally spot the plane he's set up to boom and zoom..

I have been enjoying the eye candy with my radeon 9500 pro and settings on excellent (not perfect mind you) but now I am wondering if I am still at a disadvantage.

Any advice is much appreciated..

Tanks

Airmikey

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:45 AM
Well, I had to improve my visibility a few years ago with glasses. /i/smilies/16x16_robot-very-happy.gif

Okay, now for real, I usually try to scan the sky for movement and dots, sometimes while using the Gunsight zoom. Other than that there is probably not much else to do than stay sharp. You might want to consider on putting the largest zoom in and zoom out on buttons on your controller if you have enough buttons that is and if it is sufficiently programmable.

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:58 AM
The ideal settings for spotting and identifying targets are 1024x768x32 bit at any detail level from medium up. Increasing the lighting detail levels can help in spotting planes, but makes them harder to identify. Reducing lighting detail levels makes them easier to identify, but harder to spot initially. In short, graphics settings other than resolution and number of colors have very little effect. Color probebly plays the single biggest part. I used to run at 1024x768x16 bit and had a really tough time spotting planes. Now I use 800x600x32 bit and it is MUCH easier dispite things being a bit pixelated. In a month or so I will get a new graphics card so I can increase the resolution. Some people claim that lower resolutions make spotting easier, but this isn't really true. Color plays the single biggest part as far as detail is concerned.

The real key to spotting planes is predicting where they will appear and then concentrating your search to that area. This is the tricky part and requires you to be a hunter. I normally fly high above where the enemy will be and off to one side. I then search a section of the screen. I don't pan around, I just stare at about 1/3 of the screen until a dot starts traveling across it. I then make a mental note of its location and prepare to engage.

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 01:34 AM
Thanks fellas. Looks like I just may need glasses.. ::

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 03:39 AM
Turn you view distance to the lowest and you spot planes miles before you would on furthest zoom distance, its lame but they turn into a huge black square with it on the lowest distance, it should be the other way around lowest view distance has more trouble to spot enemies


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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 03:59 AM
Buy a bigger monitor and turn the cockpit off (instead of flying around like a 1-eyed person with a dog-cone over his head on a pole) No wonder you are looking for a viewing advantage. Your view in full real is simply unrealistically restriced. Don't be afraid to turn the realism slider down a notch. You are only hurting yourself otherwise. Remember this is a game not a sado-maschoist endeavor.

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 07:13 AM
learning aircraft profiles appaently helps but i am useless at it

color is a bit of a hint when ID-ing, planes with flashes of yellow tend to be LW lighter blue undersides tends to be VVS etc. furthermore at a distance the LW planes for some unexplained reason seem bigger then VVS at sam distance and "blockier" with squared off wings.

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 07:50 AM
Firstly, in FR you are not suposed to see EVERY AC int the air! It's even possible to cruise across for half an hour or longer not spotting any enemy" Is it unrealistic? IMO, it's verz close to real experience and you appreciate it fully as for ex. IL2 driver trying to sneak under belly of some capable predators! Without cockpit or with not ranged icons the Srutmos are instantly doooooomed and of cource you will be in a fighting in a no time.But nothing more far from reality.
Besides, I still believe that Il2 (FB) is more simulator of real thing then a pure and simple game...

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 07:53 AM
Panning the skies all the time is a must!
Left-right-up-down. Zoom in and out to check possible fots.

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 08:14 AM
Whenever you are flying in an hostile enviroment, always remember to:

Look to the left,
Look to the right,
look to the left, and shake it all around.
Turn towards the dawn
and shoot the Focker down
And bring it back all right!!

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 08:56 AM
You could try wearing a gaudy Hawaian shirt, large green Top hat, purple hot pants and a lime green tutu! You'll be visible for miles wearing that lot!!

I'd never join a club that would have ME as a member!!.

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 08:59 AM
ELEM .. you have to fly FB in a flak jacket and flying helmet .. its not "full real" otehrwise.

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 09:11 AM
Hi,

Check this Andy Bush article about Online wingman tactics. There is also some hints about Lookout Techniques:


http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_013a.html

Br

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 12:33 PM
My tip is to fly as low as u can, because its much easier to spot an AC against the sky. If u think u are an easy target so low ,fly over forrests as much as possible. Its hard to see a green plane against ground but impossible against the trees.
If U know where the enemy is or will be, stay high.

Low, there is the risk of being bounced, but u probably will spot him first. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 01:02 PM
I used to fly really low, it is an effective way to mask your location. Now I fly really high (by dogfight standards) and it works even better. Also, spotting planes far below you is fairly easy unless it is very foggy.

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XyZspineZyX
07-15-2003, 02:16 PM
The page down and end keys change your FOV. I find it's easier to spot planes in the wide view. 1 annoying thing though, it switches back to normal when you use gunsight view and then return to normal. I solved that by mapping wide view to my "normal view" button on the stick.