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sithgod
12-17-2004, 08:08 PM
Playing the Hungarian campaign and finally got to the G-6. So far I am not liking it a whole lot. It is probobly modeled right so I am not complaining about that. But it seems far less nimble than my old F-4. The semi-retractable rear wheel has gone. Slow speed handling has gotten alot worse. Lately all the I-16's are wanting to play hide the propeller at ultra low level within city limits. Had some very close calls with buildings while trying to stay on their tails.

The only thing I have liked is the customised armament.

Is the G-6 a better armed but overall a big piece of flying junk compared to the F-4 or is that just my flying?

sithgod
12-17-2004, 08:08 PM
Playing the Hungarian campaign and finally got to the G-6. So far I am not liking it a whole lot. It is probobly modeled right so I am not complaining about that. But it seems far less nimble than my old F-4. The semi-retractable rear wheel has gone. Slow speed handling has gotten alot worse. Lately all the I-16's are wanting to play hide the propeller at ultra low level within city limits. Had some very close calls with buildings while trying to stay on their tails.

The only thing I have liked is the customised armament.

Is the G-6 a better armed but overall a big piece of flying junk compared to the F-4 or is that just my flying?

Sig.Hirsch
12-17-2004, 08:22 PM
Yes it is normal sithgod , the G-6 and the Messerschmitts in general are well modelled in the game taken into account the limitation of the game code (except the K4 turning in 33 sec instead of 24 sec at 6000m slow speed) .
It's heavier , and doesn't go faster than a F-4, it probably accelerates better tho and can carry MK108 nose cannon which is a deadly weapon when you use it well.
To be good in this plane , you have to master the ability of estimating well the distances between your aircraft and the ennemies and what direction do they follow , and if you're staying always fast , you can often take advantage on them thanks to the climb ability of the G-6 (except vs Spits but that is normal ), this is a Boom and zoom aircraft , don't turn with it ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
(except vs heavy fighters )

cheers,

LeadSpitter_
12-17-2004, 09:16 PM
Remember this show with nell carter?

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/millerthenbg.jpg

steiner562
12-17-2004, 09:31 PM
Forget LS he thinks hes a funny guy, he expects all allied fighters to fly like http://anthonyjhicks.com/pictures/starwars/xwing1.jpg
He claims to fly the 109(even seem him doing it sometimes in warclouds usually a 109g2 but its all just a cloud of smoke so he can post rubbish here!)

steiner562
12-17-2004, 09:47 PM
Also remember sithgod you can't dive too deep with elevetors in G6 series you willl meet the ground ... gut luck!http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

sithgod
12-17-2004, 10:07 PM
lol yeah I did the ground thing. Came screaming down blasting away at the end of the pullout I had centimeters to spare.

I have had some success with headon attacks against bombers. Though my problem there tends to be I almost park my G-6 in the bombers co-pilot seat. Last second panic evasive action seems to attack run.

Stiglr
12-17-2004, 11:19 PM
Your moves in a G6 will be broader, but backed by more power. That's the best way I can describe.

Doing the knife-in-a-phonebooth tricks you did in F4s will get you into trouble.

But, G6s are still 109s. They climb well, and are moderately maneuverable in turns (of course you don't rely on turning if you're a 109 pilot!). You have to manage that dive speed, and get used to working that throttle, you'll need it.

A G6 is still quite capable in the right hands.

BlitzPig_DDT
12-17-2004, 11:22 PM
I actually prefer the G-6 now that it has been brought closer to it's RL performance. It used to be ridiculously sluggish. I haven't flown the 109 exclusively (or even extensively) in a long time, so I'm not sure how it stacks up against the G2 and 6-Late anymore.

Now when I "prefer" it, I don't mean over the later ones, only the earlier ones.

I don't turn fight with it though. But it can turn nicely just the same (I like to fly the 190 and P-47 a lot too, so take that for what it's worth, lol). I just like the pit, the overall feel, the guns, and the climb. Just feels more potent than the earlier ones (though the Emil is my favorite from an aesthetic point of view).

One thing to keep in mind is that the late 109s are stall fighters, but NOT turn fighters. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

karost
12-18-2004, 01:27 AM
well.... bf109 G6 , is has alot of fun if I have:
1.mk 108 http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
2.altitude advantage just about 6-7K over opponent airbase
3.host set no icon show for full real or full switch ( with out this ... no chance to RTB http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif )

that is enought for me , and my tactic is easy just HIT&RUN (like h@11 )... LOL

the most fun is when drive close to my target with speed over 700km/h and make a snapshot shoot when (soft)pull up at 100 meter ...

no any weapone can do like this just only mk108...

S!

sithgod
12-18-2004, 01:27 AM
I am quite good at getting myself into trouble thats for sure. lol

I like the Emils as well for looks. Especially the Tropical camos.

tankeriv
12-18-2004, 02:00 AM
The only thing you shouldn't do is getting involved in a turn based dogfight with Yak or Lagg. Both tend to be Uberplanes sometimes.

carguy_
12-18-2004, 03:06 AM
Planes with heavy armament like G6 or FW190 don`t have pure dogfighter skills so you need to attack in numbers.A pack of 4 is great for any enemy fighter.I suggest you stick to your AI friends.

Chuck_Older
12-18-2004, 07:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
Remember this show with nell carter?

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/millerthenbg.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

yeah

"Gimme a break"

VW-IceFire
12-18-2004, 12:50 PM
Don't get involved with the rooftop I-16's. You want to hit them from above and zoom away. Never play with them...don't dance, dancing is bad for a 109G-6. Fly hit and run...hit them with your heavier armament and run away. Turn around, and then do it again.

The I-16 has no chance to even retaliate against you.

sithgod
12-19-2004, 02:33 AM
I have to say that if I get my initial attack lined up well I am loving the twin Mk-108's under the wing. Those things are lethal against bombers. Providing I don't get cocky and let the gunner riddle me.

Were the 108's that good?

Sig.Hirsch
12-19-2004, 03:09 AM
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/8217/fgun/fgun-pe.html

see this : it's a Single hit from Mk.108 ammo (on the ground ) :

http://www.airwar.ru/image/i/weapon/mk108blenheim.jpg

you have more info here : http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/

and here : http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/neilpage/pauke.html

Test by luftwaffe stated that the Average ammount of Mk-108 shells to down a B-17 was 3-4 shells and for a P-51 it was 1-2 shells http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

cheers,

karost
12-19-2004, 03:35 AM
humm ... good link

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sig.Hirsch:
Test by luftwaffe stated that the Average ammount of Mk-108 shells to down a B-17 was 3-4 shells and for a P-51 it was 1-2 shells http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
cheers, <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I make a nice shoot at p-51 at 100 meter (co-speed ) with 1-2 shells hit with a BIG black smock and you know what...? he still run and run faster too LOL , I mean in this sim http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I think 1-2 shells of MK108 at p-51's pilot head is ok... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

S!

Nubarus
12-19-2004, 07:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sig.Hirsch:
see this : it's a Single hit from Mk.108 ammo (on the ground ) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, it was not a hit, the shell was placed inside and then detonated.

A explosion in an enclosed environment is more destructive then a explosion on the outside.