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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 12:32 PM
the Bellanca 28-90
http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/Media/Bellanca2890.gif


Bellanca 28-70
http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/Media/Bellanca2870.gif


A militarised version of the 28-70, fitted with an 900 HP twin wasp senior radial engine and fairly heavy armament, produced specifically following a request from the Republican government. Some 40 aircraft were prodced, but none were delivered to Spain (they were supposed to) During the Civil War, following a USA embargo on their sale.
these were sent to China instead,
and fough against the Japs, in the China/Japan war.

If you have any Better Pics or info
please post it.

its a good looking plane. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



the only info I have found, hearing of it in action,
http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/George_Mellinger/china_skys_part_iii.htm

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Message Edited on 08/29/03â 11:34AM by fjuff79

Message Edited on 08/29/03â 03:55PM by fjuff79

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 12:32 PM
the Bellanca 28-90
http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/Media/Bellanca2890.gif


Bellanca 28-70
http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/drnash/model/spain/Media/Bellanca2870.gif


A militarised version of the 28-70, fitted with an 900 HP twin wasp senior radial engine and fairly heavy armament, produced specifically following a request from the Republican government. Some 40 aircraft were prodced, but none were delivered to Spain (they were supposed to) During the Civil War, following a USA embargo on their sale.
these were sent to China instead,
and fough against the Japs, in the China/Japan war.

If you have any Better Pics or info
please post it.

its a good looking plane. /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif



the only info I have found, hearing of it in action,
http://www.j-aircraft.com/research/George_Mellinger/china_skys_part_iii.htm

<ceter>http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/swedish_aviators/images/whirlwind_1.jpg </center>
Ralph HĂ€ggberg one of 5 Swedish
pilots flying for the RAF



Message Edited on 08/29/03â 11:34AM by fjuff79

Message Edited on 08/29/03â 03:55PM by fjuff79

Message Edited on 08/29/0303:55PM by fjuff79

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 12:46 PM
Nice! Maybe they can model these in FB in a future version


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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 01:02 PM
Hey, there was one of those in Spanish Civil War, too! As it happened with the Peashooter, they brought just one for tests, and remained in service with the FARE.

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 01:12 PM
FARE = Fueza Aerea Real Espanola?

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 01:19 PM
Very cool looking. These planes are a sort of reverse 'Luft 46' thing. Planes that were designed/built that never saw service (or very limited service) prior to WW II. How about a 'bookend' addon for FB..."Forgotten Planes"...a Spanish Civil War pack w/additional planes such as these and a 'Luft 46' pack?


The article you linked to validates the addtion of Japanese planes to FB. This was a truly a "Forgotten Battle".
But, was the Zero, which I believe is part of the addon a/c, available from 1937-1940? (Is A5M a Zero designation? I forgot).

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 01:19 PM
DuxCorvan wrote:
- Hey, there was one of those in Spanish Civil War,
- too! As it happened with the Peashooter, they
- brought just one for tests, and remained in service
- with the FARE.

yes a Bellanca 28-70

and maybe one Bellanca 28-90


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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 01:23 PM
Beebop-PBNA wrote:
- Very cool looking. These planes are a sort of
- reverse 'Luft 46' thing. Planes that were
- designed/built that never saw service (or very
- limited service) prior to WW II. How about a
- 'bookend' addon for FB..."Forgotten Planes"...a
- Spanish Civil War pack w/additional planes such as
- these and a 'Luft 46' pack?
-
-
- The article you linked to validates the addtion of
- Japanese planes to FB. This was a truly a
- "Forgotten Battle".
- But, was the Zero, which I believe is part of the
- addon a/c, available from 1937-1940? (Is A5M a Zero
- designation? I forgot).
-
No it is a Claud, a Zero is A6M
look here
http://www.wwiitech.net/main/japan/aircraft/a5m/


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Message Edited on 08/29/0312:26PM by fjuff79

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 01:40 PM
Hmmm, anybody up for a Russo-Japanese War planeset?
Hardly hear any mention of that war.

Roy Baty
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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 01:55 PM
I have tried to get peoples attension for it before
but its hard.

Here is an other link:
http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/sino-japanese.htm

Here are some of the Aces in that war:

http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/china.htm

http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/japan.htm

http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/soviet.htm

Here are some of the planes:
http://www.dalnet.se/~surfcity/biplanes.htm

Pretty amasing info /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 04:19 PM
Cippacometa wrote:
- FARE = Fueza Aerea Real Espanola?


FARE= Fuerza AĂ©rea de la RepĂÂșblica Espańola.


They were REPUBLICANS. How were they to have a king? (Real=Royal) /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 04:32 PM
Beebop-PBNA wrote:
- Very cool looking. These planes are a sort of
- reverse 'Luft 46' thing.

Luft 46? Ummmm...it look more like Gee Bee 1930 Racer!

Regards
SnowLeopard

XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 04:38 PM
fjuff79,

Nice stuff, but have you ever wondered how the folks in Japan feel about the name, "Japs"?

Just a thought



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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 04:51 PM
Falcon_41 wrote:
- fjuff79,
-
- Nice stuff, but have you ever wondered how the
- folks in Japan feel about the name, "Japs"?
-
-
- Just a thought

I mean no harm, but if its upsetting anyone
I will change it,
sorry /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 05:01 PM
I guess there is a lingering stigma over that word as no-one uttered it during the 40s in a nice way. I never considered it any worse than calling the British 'Brits' or the Australians 'Aussies' but I guess as a society we still have a way to go....

It's only funny til someone loses an eye....then it's hilarious

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 05:13 PM
Dubbo2 wrote:
- I guess there is a lingering stigma over that word
- as no-one uttered it during the 40s in a nice way. I
- never considered it any worse than calling the
- British 'Brits' or the Australians 'Aussies'
-
not me either,

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 05:15 PM
If you have any Better Pics or info on the Bellanca 28-90 or 28-70
please post it.

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 06:20 PM
These were all I could find

http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/nightschpanker/bella-2870.jpg


http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/nightschpanker/bella-flash.jpg


http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/nightschpanker/bella.jpg


http://www.angelfire.com/falcon/nightschpanker/bella1.gif


It's only funny til someone loses an eye....then it's hilarious

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 06:27 PM
thanks!/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

I wonder how it performed

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 07:43 PM
Bellanca 28-90
Span 46ft 2in
Length 25ft 11in
Height 8ft 8in
Wing area 279sq ft
Loaded weight 6755lb
Max speed 280mph
Ceiling 30500ft
range 800-1000miles
Engine 900hp Twin Wasp Senior
Armament, 2 machineguns in wings, one operated by the observer and eight 120lb bombs under the wings
None of the twenty-two 28-90's ordered by Republican Spain were delivered. The only Bellanca flown in the SCW was one 28-70.

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XyZspineZyX
08-29-2003, 11:00 PM
roybaty wrote:
- Hmmm, anybody up for a Russo-Japanese War planeset?
- Hardly hear any mention of that war.

The Russo-Japanese War happened between 1904 and 1905. I doubt there was much airplane fighting going on. I think the first use of airplanes as a weapon happened in WWI, am I right?

GATO_LOCO

XyZspineZyX
08-30-2003, 04:24 AM
Have you read all

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