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Billy_BigBoy
12-31-2007, 10:00 AM
I'm planning to make a button panel from a left over USB joystick.
Does anyone of you have any experience with it?
It has 8 buttons, a slider (throttle), a POV and ofcourse the stick itself.

I want to use it for the Fire-extinguiser, engine start, lights, all that stuff. Most of it is under another mode or even a Pinky on my X-45, but there must be an easer way.

Thanks in advance.

Waldo.Pepper
12-31-2007, 10:22 AM
Well I made just the sweetest add on/hack to my X-52 that adds a pair of rotaries and two extra buttons to the throttle side, out of an old stick.

But in hindsight I might just as well have saved the aggravation/headache/bull and gotten one of these -

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...No=2727932&CatId=536 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2727932&CatId=536)

Of course you then still will be stuck with the old stick and all those possibilities that will tantalize your mind.

FoolTrottel
12-31-2007, 10:54 AM
Yep, done that.

A custom controller box... sliders and buttons.

Development went so far, it's now got 2 Joysticks and a game pad inside it.
(Six sliders, some 30 buttons or so.)

Here's (an older) picture of it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v668/fooltrottel/Controller001.jpg

Doesn't really look like much, but it works!

The top of it is the bottom part of a Thrustmaster stick, in which I drilled and filed lots of holes for sliders and buttons.

Some buttons are the original ones from the sticks, some were replaced...

That red thing on the left is a hand rest http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

To mount the sliders, I used aluminium strips of about 2 cm's wide, bent them (90 dgr), drilled some holes in the vertical part to mount the pot in, and some smaller holes in the horizontal part to fix it to the base using small bolts and nuts.

(Als ik het goed gezien heb ben je 'n Hollander, stuur me een PM als je uitgebreider info wilt over hoe ik 't allemaal ge-fixed heb... als je kunt solderen en kunt priegelen dan is 't niet echt moeilijk, alleen maar gepruts http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif)

Billy_BigBoy
01-01-2008, 09:36 AM
Thanks Guys, FoolTrottel, check ff je PM

K_Freddie
01-01-2008, 03:12 PM
I'm sure you can get joystick USB controller modules, etc, on the net. If you're into a bit of electronic tinkering, is easy as pie.

Or if you like, I'll make a module for this purpose. If there are 'lots' of people interested, I can do it.

My X52 was playing up the other day on the X/Y axis, so I pulled it apart. Saitek have cleverly used magnets and Hall Effect detectors (convert magnetic strength into something measurable). It's not rocket science and easy to replicate.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

na85
01-01-2008, 06:15 PM
Since his joystick still functions, he can use the guts from it, and just extend the wires that go to the buttons.

Billy_BigBoy
01-02-2008, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by K_Freddie:
I'm sure you can get joystick USB controller modules, etc, on the net.

I know. Everything is for sale. But I like to fuzz around a bit and make myself something nice, unique, and mostly cheap http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Fooltrottel, bedankt voor de gedetailleerde info! Kan ik zeker wat mee!

Maybe you all can see the result in a short time!

Capt.LoneRanger
01-02-2008, 01:57 PM
I modified my Saitek X45 by disassembling the stick and connecting the wiring to additional buttons and switches on the throttle.

Works great. All the buttons are fully programmable, I even transfered one of the coolie-hats and I can use the stick-axles for trim.

I can't upload a picture right now, but IIRC Bearcat has done something very similar to his X45.

I can only recommend these threads:

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/3821084134

http://www.simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=81&page=1

Billy_BigBoy
01-02-2008, 02:27 PM
Thanks Capt.LoneRanger, I knew there is a lot of creativity on the board! Must have misted the thread while I was on vacation. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

This one by triggerhappyfin is what I had in mind:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v257/Triggerhappyfin/HPIM0556.jpg

Billy_BigBoy
01-10-2008, 12:32 PM
10 Days ago I planned to make my own DIY USB Controler Box.
Thanks to you guys, and a very special thanks to Fooltrottel for his very detailed information, I managed to build a working Controler Box.
Yesterday night I hooked it up to IL2 and know what: it rocks! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/metal.gif

I used a cheap USB Wasp2 joystick, a piece of fibreboard, 8 buttons from my local electronicstore and a spraycan silver. All together just over 18 Euro's.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Billy_BigBoy/maitek.jpg

FoolTrottel
01-10-2008, 01:28 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Nice job! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

han freak solo
01-10-2008, 06:04 PM
Billy, how about a pic of the inside so I can see what you had to do?

Waldo.Pepper
01-10-2008, 06:43 PM
I used the same wee red buttons on mine. They must sell millions of those things in a year. Good job indeed. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif

zardozid
01-10-2008, 07:33 PM
cool...

I would like to try building something like that to, mostly for the trim wheels but the buttons would be cool too...

I want to try this (http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836A/) thing. I wonder if anyone here has used it in a project?

This guy ( Leo Bodnar (http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/) ) has been working on a "force feedback" gizmo (http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/ForceFeedbackController.html) too...he says its for a "car racing steering wheel" but maybe a yoke could be made (?)

Nice work "Billy_BigBoy", the spirit of DIY is alive and kicking...

Billy_BigBoy
01-10-2008, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by han freak solo:
Billy, how about a pic of the inside so I can see what you had to do?

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif That will reveal the mess of an DIYer inside! But OK, 'll make a pic of it.

mmitch10
01-11-2008, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by zardozid:
cool...

I would like to try building something like that to, mostly for the trim wheels but the buttons would be cool too...

I want to try this (http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836A/) thing. I wonder if anyone here has used it in a project?

This guy ( Leo Bodnar (http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/) ) has been working on a "force feedback" gizmo (http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/ForceFeedbackController.html) too...he says its for a "car racing steering wheel" but maybe a yoke could be made (?)

Nice work "Billy_BigBoy", the spirit of DIY is alive and kicking...

A few people, including me, have used Leo's controller, it gives fantastic results. Check out this thread: http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/2281015255/p/4)

Billy_BigBoy
01-11-2008, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by zardozid:

I want to try this (http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836A/) thing. I wonder if anyone here has used it in a project?

This guy ( Leo Bodnar (http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/) ) has been working on a "force feedback" gizmo (http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/ForceFeedbackController.html) too...he says its for a "car racing steering wheel" but maybe a yoke could be made (?)


OHHH GREAT!!!! Now I want more! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

No kidding, I'm happy with it for now, but that Leo Bodnar thingy is sure something for the near future. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

stansdds
01-12-2008, 09:29 AM
I've been giving consideration to building a switch panel to take the place of keyboard commands for my flight sims. The little red push button switches are cheap, work well, are plentiful and have been around since the 1970's, maybe even longer. Spring loaded momentary toggle switches would work too and would look more correct for aircraft of the early jet age or earlier.

Billy_BigBoy
01-14-2008, 11:22 AM
Oke guys, I promised you the inside of the box.
It's not that fancy or organised, but it works!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/Billy_BigBoy/Maitek_inside.jpg

DuxCorvan
01-14-2008, 11:51 AM
Well, if it works it's fine, although I'd swear that thing sounds "plok-klang-bloff" everytime you move it around... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Billy_BigBoy
01-14-2008, 02:32 PM
Actually, my little boy asked me yesterday: "Dad, what is that "plok-klang-bloff" when your playing pilot?" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif