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Slammin_
12-27-2003, 08:59 PM
I'm tired of it. Sucks too because I had a great machine for it (dual P3-1GHZ 768MB ram), nice DSL connect, and spent whatever free time I had trying to create a great environment for what we all like to do. And I think I did a pretty fair job of it because I enjoyed playing.

Now, I'm old school. I usta run a 4 line BBS (that's 4 phone lines for you slow mofo's) and know all about things regarding providing a free service for the masses (keep in mind that I am not rich and that we are talking YEARS ago). I'm sure only a few here even know what a BBS is, so I'm not expecting any major kudos from anyone.

I am absolutely disgusted with some of the pager messages I get on HL. I mean, sheeze! I've never asked for help, money, or anyone else's time. I've only asked that folks enjoy this sim as much as I do. I will continue to enjoy this sim, as I'm sure you all will too.

Too bad I don't have the patience or motiviation to trudge through the crap I get and still want to continue offering whatever I can to make things more enjoyable. You folks that can, hats off to ya! Me? I'll make better use out of my connection enjoying, and praising what you give us.

Slammin_
12-27-2003, 08:59 PM
I'm tired of it. Sucks too because I had a great machine for it (dual P3-1GHZ 768MB ram), nice DSL connect, and spent whatever free time I had trying to create a great environment for what we all like to do. And I think I did a pretty fair job of it because I enjoyed playing.

Now, I'm old school. I usta run a 4 line BBS (that's 4 phone lines for you slow mofo's) and know all about things regarding providing a free service for the masses (keep in mind that I am not rich and that we are talking YEARS ago). I'm sure only a few here even know what a BBS is, so I'm not expecting any major kudos from anyone.

I am absolutely disgusted with some of the pager messages I get on HL. I mean, sheeze! I've never asked for help, money, or anyone else's time. I've only asked that folks enjoy this sim as much as I do. I will continue to enjoy this sim, as I'm sure you all will too.

Too bad I don't have the patience or motiviation to trudge through the crap I get and still want to continue offering whatever I can to make things more enjoyable. You folks that can, hats off to ya! Me? I'll make better use out of my connection enjoying, and praising what you give us.

Lixma
12-27-2003, 09:18 PM
That sounds bang out of order. Go full real...you'll get a better class of people.

hehe...

GvSAP_Dart
12-27-2003, 09:34 PM
LOL - I know what you mean - and I don't host a dedicated server, I just pop mine up when I'm flying (which guarantees I get the settings/planes/maps I like).

I also don't read the chat in HL. I just throw the server up and let 'em come on in if they want.

I must admit I've gotten a bit cold hearted at the folks that enter the server and complain about settings or whatever. It's not like I charged a cover to come in!

Anymore I boot people that swear or gripe.

I've also carefully cultivated a reputation as something of a buffoon and so don't get mean spirited pages from people. I figure if people don't take me seriously, that allows me to return the favor...

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AFSG_Halo
12-27-2003, 09:35 PM
I hear ya Slammin. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif
For what it's worth, I've always had fun flying on your server. I've never said it tho and now I feel bad about that. You can never please everyone and it seems that it is only the dissatisfied that voice their opinions. I have experienced this many times over in real life, I guess that online is no different. I hope to see you in the virtual skies again, I for one would be happy on your wing! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Juego
12-27-2003, 10:07 PM
Hey Slammin you may want to try ubis servers.

I use to play alot with the original Il2 online.(I own at that time). But know there are to many noobs with all there stupid comment. They think they are the best of the best.(I was a noob once.Like everyone else).So because of that i have not play alot on the Ubi server but i think that there are still the poeple from the original il2 enjoing a beer and kill.

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Weather_Man
12-27-2003, 10:48 PM
I liked your server the few times I've been on it. But, primarily because of some of the things you've mentioned or implied, I have stayed and will always stay an UBI flier. It's just generally a more fun atmosphere than HL.

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Aviar
12-27-2003, 10:49 PM
Slammin,

Sorry to hear about your woes. I've been hosting since the IL-2 demo days, so I feel your pain.

If you don't mind, I do have a question for you. Did you host with a dedicated server? I also have a DSL connection but players could not join when I tried to run the dedicated server. When I hosted without it, I had no problems.

Is there a trick for running it with DSL?

Aviar

BS87
12-27-2003, 11:13 PM
NOO!! slammin your server will be missed. I had tons of fun flying there and it was one of my very favorties! I agree with you though, HL is a good program but the people on it are not so great.. I just completely ignore any chat or pages reagarding me unless i know the person. Thanks for hosting sucha fun server, best of luck to you Slammin.

SKULLS_LZ
12-27-2003, 11:54 PM
Your server was one of the best, one of the *very* few that was consistently full, so in spite of whatever aggravation it caused you, I hope you have the satisfaction of knowing your server brought many hours of entertainment to many people.
S!

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TX-Zen
12-28-2003, 12:25 AM
S~ Slammin,

You will be missed, others are right on when they say how good your server has been. Hope you reconsider, it's tough to lose any of the few places that are great to fly in.

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Dolemite-
12-28-2003, 12:37 AM
Slammin, I will miss playing on your server. IMO it was actually 1 of the best on HL.

Hey, remember the time you said you were going to ban me because I cussed on your server?

Anyways, S! Slammin

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GoodKn1ght
12-28-2003, 12:41 AM
Your server will definately be missed. Sure theres some bad apples out there, but don't let them get you down. There was some really good guys that flew on your server regularly and really had fun. You probably just dont hear from these people as much. Good luck with lomac or whatever you decide to do. Always a pleasure flying with you.
~S

crazyivan1970
12-28-2003, 12:50 AM
Dang Slamm, you let some punks ruin your fun. Just boot them that`s all. Best of luck to you, whatever you decide mate.

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Snoop_Baron
12-28-2003, 01:28 AM
Hi Slammin,

I don't know why someone would complain about you hosting a free server. What are they msging u about? I've been on your server quite a few times and I've always had fun.

s!
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JG52_Helgstrand
12-28-2003, 01:30 AM
<S> Slammin!
I also have to say you will be missed. Definately one of my regular flying haunts.
Got shot down by many a good pilot on your server...and I mean many.
It's a shame the few have screwed it up for the many yet again. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

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Snakeyes2050
12-28-2003, 01:40 AM
Slammin,

I always look for your server when I'm playing IL-2 FB on HL. It was reliable and enjoyable. Don't let a few bad apples spoil your fun!

S!

SeaFireLIV
12-28-2003, 05:42 AM
I always have extra respect for people who do `free` selfless stuff for others on the net because they`ll often come across idots who have no understanding or appreciation, or simply must hurt/insult/ put them down for no good reason.
The net is a double-edged sword, a bit like the real world, it has wonderful people and then some truly awful ones that need putting down. Always be prepared that if you go out there to help others, some git will try to do you down for his own sake. No matter how well intentioned your actions are.

It`s the way of this world, m8.

Me personally, I wouldn`t take the crap. Not on the net. At least in the outside world they`d have to say it to my face.

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Cajun76
12-28-2003, 05:55 AM
You'll be missed if you truly shut down. Hope to see you flying on another server if it happens.

Good hunting,
Cajun76

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Hunter82
12-28-2003, 06:06 AM
Sounds pretty familiar. I took down my server a few weeks ago. Can't please anyone so I've quit trying. I'll quietly fly on someone's server and thank them for hosting.

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FullFlaps
12-28-2003, 06:47 AM
D@mn. Lost another. I noticed Hunters wasn't around anymore. Now I find out that both of you have shut down. Your server was one of the smoothest I've experienced. I wish you wouldn't let idiots run you off. I've flown your server many times. Each time I knew I wouldn't last long because you seemed to have "the good ones" flying your server all the time. And I don't think the noobs realize that servers are up because of everyones good graces. I truly hope you change your mind. S!

IcarusXP
12-28-2003, 07:29 AM
[QUOTE]
I am absolutely disgusted with some of the pager messages I get on HL. I mean, sheeze! I've never asked for help, money, or anyone else's time. I've only asked that folks enjoy this sim as much as I do. I will continue to enjoy this sim, as I'm sure you all will too.
QUOTE]

Hey, Man I feel yer pain. You can't make everyone happy, but you made me happy. I remember playing a few rounds on yer server and I had a good time.
When I host a game, I scroll the chat window up to the top so as to purposly ignore everyone. If they don't like it there is a hundred other servers out there.
As for Hyperloby...well...I think of it as a playground. Just ignore the the bad kids. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
~Salute

rangooon
12-28-2003, 08:11 AM
slammin,

it has always been a pleasure to fly on your servers!!

"come back red ryder!"

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TX-Bomblast
12-28-2003, 08:12 AM
Slamin,

You had the best Server out there, very enjoyable for all. You will be missed, and hopefully some day you'll host again.

TX-Bomblast
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_Bootlegger_
12-28-2003, 09:01 AM
It's a shame that a few bad apples have spoiled the bunch for you.
I've always had fun in your server and it will be missed.

Maybe after a little time has passed and those turds have crawled out from under your skin you'll feel like hosting again.

Well....here's hoping anyways.

AirBot
12-28-2003, 09:47 AM
Damn Slammin_, that really sucks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I must admit I never tried your server, since the settings didn't seem my cup of tea, but I sure appreciate your contribution in hosting a free server for us to enjoy.
Don't let a few bad apples get you down. It looks like plenty of people here enjoyed their time on your server and are greatful for it. I, for one, would have to try it if you ever bring it back online http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

LeadSpitter_
12-28-2003, 01:02 PM
I use to have alot of fun in slammins server when you only have 30 min to fly lots of quick action and many kills, I actually havent been flying there because the little ingrates that fly in his server dropping the pe8 bomb on thier own players nonstop when slammins not around.

The only requests i have made to him in pms about a month ago were can you host fr on weekends or at least no externals and no pl and understand its his server and slammin was nice enough to say he will try it,When he tried his server wasnt full alot so I understand why he uses the settings he does. He likes externals and you need them for ai craft

even tho i dont fly much there anymore its sad to see if he chooses not to host anymore. out of the normal 10-20 hosts slammins was always sure to have alot of players in it at all times of day and night

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WUAF_Badsight
12-28-2003, 02:21 PM
man when i host a DF room the compliants about settings fall on stone cold deaf ears

i mean they have no rights , its your enviroment & they are getting it for free

dont let something like this put you off dude

Cossack13
12-28-2003, 03:03 PM
Of course, this means the bad guys won.

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nickdanger3
12-28-2003, 03:40 PM
Big S to you slammin -
still a relative newbie, but your was always one of my favorite places to be shot down. I thought your settings and missions were a great mix where the aces and the fresh meat could both have fun. Hope you reconsider - aloha and mahalo

Copperhead310th
12-28-2003, 03:59 PM
TX-Bomblast wrote:
"You had the best Server out there, very enjoyable for all. You will be missed, and hopefully some day you'll host again."

Yeah i pretty much echo those sentiments i have had many hours of fun on Slamin's server. I & the guys in my squads will be sad to see it go.
Was one of the few fun places we could go & fly joint opps together. We're working on getting 2 dedicated servers up & running. 1 pubilic scrpited, & 1 privet. Or 1 for the 380th Bomb Group & 1 for the 310th FS. I can only hope they'l be as much fun as slam's was.
& Slamin...your welcome on either of them @ any time sir. Thanks for hosting.

Lixma Wrote:
"That sounds bang out of order. Go full real...you'll get a better class of people."

Yeah like eliteists & Uber trolls.

Sorry Lix But full real is just plain full boring. IMO 70% of all full real players will get thier @sses Handed to them on a medium setting server. lol

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XyZspineZyX
12-28-2003, 04:48 PM
Although I only flew on your server a few times I thought it was great. Like so many others I look at the settings before I join then see how players are behaving. If I don't like what I see, I leave...quietly.
Sorry that a few muck-ups have spoiled it for you and those of us who have enjoyed your server.
There will always be someone to complain about anything, create havoc then leave.
I would urge you to reconsider and let people know they will be kicked/banned if they talk/act inappropriatly.
Whatever you choice, thank you for providing us a fun server.
~S~

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CPS_Craven
12-28-2003, 05:10 PM
S! Slammin, as others have said your server was one of the best and nearly always full!

I know a lot of our CPS guys will miss your room and certainly hope you'll reconsider at some point in the future.

All the best m8

Crav

Petrosky
12-28-2003, 08:19 PM
Sorry you get rotten pages. Enjoy flying in your server. Bad apples in every bunch! Just ignore them,will miss your server thanks for the hosting you did Petrosky

MosDef_99th
12-28-2003, 08:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slammin_:
I'm tired of it. I am absolutely disgusted with some of the pager messages I get on HL. I mean, sheeze! I've never asked for help, money, or anyone else's time. I've only asked that folks enjoy this sim as much as I do. I will continue to enjoy this sim, as I'm sure you all will too.

Too bad I don't have the patience or motiviation to trudge through the crap I get and still want to continue offering whatever I can to make things more enjoyable. .<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



NAHHH MAANNN!! I just posted about how your server allows me to fight some of the best of FB without FR settings and enjoy myselkf immensely. Yours is the first servers I look for when HL finishes loading, I was wondering where its was. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

Cmon Dude, you have one of the most constantly full servers on HL; enjoyed by many, as you can tell by all these previous posts. For every punk @ss paging you with BS, there are least 10 flyers who enjoy your scripted, changing map servers. Well, you'll definately be missed by this n00b.

Griffon_25th
12-28-2003, 09:23 PM
sorry slammin!

That was the ONLY server I flew in! da best. S!

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ElAurens
12-28-2003, 11:10 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Sorry Lix But full real is just plain full boring. IMO 70% of all full real players will get thier @sses Handed to them on a medium setting server. lol

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah because you will be in "Wonder Woman" full n00b mode...

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T_O_A_D
12-28-2003, 11:19 PM
S! Slammin
Ya never got a bad word from me. Sorry for the loss, I haven't been on much of late but always enjoyed it when I played there.

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12-28-2003, 11:59 PM
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Slammin_
12-29-2003, 12:14 AM
All the kind words , and especially "the bad guys win again" really got me thinking and some of you also offered some good advice that I think I will heed. Trust me, I enjoy the server as much as you guys do, including playing on it, creating the missions etc.

I guess what really got my gander the most is it seemed that everytime I had to restart the server, I'd have several nastygrams in que waiting for me, that I'd mostly ignore though some were actually somewhat legit, especially the ones that complain of map size, or the amount of AAA etc. Hard to judge these things when playing over a LAN so I do welcome constructive criticism and suggestions, but the norm has been more along the lines of outright whining and demanding more than anything else.

Again, I do appreciate the kind words and I do want to point out that it is only a very small few that make me wish I could reach into my monitor and grab a handful of someones neck, but the technology just aint quite there yet.

The server will be back. I'll take some downtime to create a few new missions, tweak the old ones etc,. cool off and maybe solicit for some admin helpers to help deal with some of the riff-raff that seem determined to ruin things when they can.

Slam

Cajun76
12-29-2003, 12:24 AM
Wow, excellent news! Take your time, we all enjoy your maps, you show a great attention to detail.

Good hunting,
Cajun76

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XyZspineZyX
12-29-2003, 12:38 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slammin_:
All the kind words...really got me thinking ...
The server will be back... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

This is good news! I'll look forward to the server's return!

Thanks!

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Copperhead310th
12-29-2003, 01:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ElAurens:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Sorry Lix But full real is just plain full boring. IMO 70% of all full real players will get thier @sses Handed to them on a medium setting server. lol

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yeah because you will be in "Wonder Woman" full n00b mode...

_BlitzPig_EL_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*Sniff Sniff* is that BBQ Pork i smell?

If i'm not mistaken both of you gents are registerd with Ghost Skies.....We can settle this there. That's if your not too chicken to fly on someone elses settings http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
& FYI i don't fly wonder woman. I'm in the pit 70% & use ext for navigation.

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WUAF_Badsight
12-29-2003, 01:31 AM
takes more skill to DF in locked cockpit copperhead

when people who fly mainly locked cockpit jump into WonderWoman rooms they are even more deadly & can DF even better

there are full real snobs

& there are dummies who put down full real

T_O_A_D
12-29-2003, 02:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
takes more skill to DF in locked cockpit copperhead

when people who fly mainly locked cockpit jump into WonderWoman rooms they are even more deadly & can DF even better

there are full real snobs

& there are dummies who put down full real<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not my case http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif Maybey because I force myself to stay in cockpit regardless of settings.

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JG52MadAdler
12-29-2003, 04:13 AM
I always had fun in Slammin's.
You will be missed.
We should create a hall of shame for the
offenders and black list them.

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[This message was edited by JG52MadAdler on Wed December 31 2003 at 03:21 AM.]

ElAurens
12-29-2003, 05:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ElAurens:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Sorry Lix But full real is just plain full boring. IMO 70% of all full real players will get thier @sses Handed to them on a medium setting server. lol

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yeah because you will be in "Wonder Woman" full n00b mode...

_BlitzPig_EL_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*Sniff Sniff* is that BBQ Pork i smell?

If i'm not mistaken both of you gents are registerd with Ghost Skies.....We can settle this there. That's if your not too chicken to fly on someone elses settings http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
& FYI i don't fly wonder woman. I'm in the pit 70% & use ext for navigation.

http://imageshack.us/files/380th%20siggy.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry there Copperhead, but I was under the imperession that you flew out of the 'pit.

My bad.

Well, we'll have to see about Ghost Skys. Padlock is OK, but externals for a competetion won't cut it with me. Unless padlock is off.
Padlock+External= radar for n00bs....

Again, I'm sorry about the cockpit thing.

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BaldieJr
12-29-2003, 07:02 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ElAurens:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
Sorry Lix But full real is just plain full boring. IMO 70% of all full real players will get thier @sses Handed to them on a medium setting server. lol

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yeah because you will be in "Wonder Woman" full n00b mode...

_BlitzPig_EL_<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

*Sniff Sniff* is that BBQ Pork i smell?

If i'm not mistaken both of you gents are registerd with Ghost Skies.....We can settle this there. That's if your not too chicken to fly on someone elses settings http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
& FYI i don't fly wonder woman. I'm in the pit 70% & use ext for navigation.

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Whats the deal with squads wanting to make a clan-war with BP's?

I detect some kind of jealousy or something.

I've got a virtual beer on Lixma ;-)

Yum_Yum
12-29-2003, 07:20 AM
Salute Slammin and thank you for bringing back your server.

I just read all the posts and was very sad that it was all going to end http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, then was elated when I read it will return again http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

I look at the hosts and see they are doing all the favours, Providing the means to share and paying for the line and hardware, working on missions, reading good and bad posts, working the majority of the time even if the server is up or down, hopeing to share the fun with like minded people.
It is very sad that a few take what you do for granted, and choose to highlight any faults ... but then dont offer the help or the means to correct it http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif, and instead choose to moan.

You are doing all the favors, so do yourself a favour and run it how you want http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif, I am happy if you are happy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.

see you in a couple of weeks with my new conection http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Future-
12-29-2003, 07:48 AM
S! Slammin, I'm glad you will be back, despite the constant whining of some notorious morons out there.
You should know that I always recommend your server as "the best there is" and the place to go when it comes to bomber combat experiences.
I also stated numerous times to my squadmates that some settings you use are a good example for what our own servers should be.

And last but not least, I even try to incorporate attack tactics training specialized for flying on your server when I'm doing practice runs with my bomb group mates. The 380th Bomb Group will always honor your work by enjoying it as much as possible.

In fact, most of the current 380th members got to know eachother while flying on your server, and I wouldn't be the proud CO of the 530th BS I am today without your server, since my group commander Copperhead met me there and asked me to join the 380th.

A big S! to you Slammin, I'm looking forward to see you and your server back online again, and I can only second Copperhead's invitation, you are always welcome among the 310th & 380th.

Take your time sir.

- Future

Commanding Officer of the 530th Bomb Squad
380th Bomb Group 5th AF USAAF

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Cossack13
12-29-2003, 08:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slammin_:
All the kind words , and especially "the bad guys win again" really got me thinking and some of you also offered some good advice that I think I will heed.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Whoa! Well, I'm glad that I might have played some small part in the decision for Slammin_ to keep his server alive.

I'm actually a VEF/Coop junkie but I really believe that hosts need to be appreciated more. After all, where would we be without them?

That's right, OFF-freakin'-LINE!

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LilHorse
12-29-2003, 09:18 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AirBot:
Damn Slammin_, that really sucks http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

I must admit I never tried your server, since the settings didn't seem my cup of tea, but I sure appreciate your contribution in hosting a free server for us to enjoy.
Don't let a few bad apples get you down. It looks like plenty of people here enjoyed their time on your server and are greatful for it. I, for one, would have to try it if you ever bring it back online http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, AirBot said exactly what I was gonna say. I haven't been on your server, probably due to the settings you run. But that's what's supposed to happen. Ppl are supposed to look at the settings and decide BEFORE they get in if they want to fly your settings. So, if ppl are coming on your server and complaining about the settings then feck 'em. Boot their a$$es! Like Bot says, there's obviously alot of good folks out there who enjoy your server. They would be more than happy if you were heavy with the boot. So from somebody who doesn't even fly your room, I say keep it open.

Like the old Roman saying says (all you Latin scholars please forgive my spelling here): "Illegitimatatis non carbarundum". Translated: "Don't let the ba$tards get you down".

XyZspineZyX
12-29-2003, 09:35 AM
Get a thicker skin.

Are the "noobs" and "idiots" out of line? Undoubtedly. But that's the net: you have to learn to ignore jerks and get out of it what YOU want.

If you're gonna let stupid comments, inane requests and few easily ignorable PMs on HyperLobby stop you from hosting, and being able to not only control YOUR environment, but give enjoyment to a lot of likeminded people, well, YOU are the one who's losing in the end.

Get over it, let it roll off your back.

Now quit whining and fire up that server.

AFJ_Locust
12-29-2003, 10:40 AM
Slammin NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Dont Stop Hosting Pall your Game was the Greatest none had as good a Server as you NONE !!!

This is a sad day indead, all you complaining bastads that did this will burn!!!!!

Dam Im sorry for them Slammin Please Come back your server was & Is the best PERIOD !!!!

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crazyivan1970
12-29-2003, 10:52 AM
Now ya talking Slamm, who cares about some 13 year old punks leaving PM`s @HL. I think for us, hosts, the most disturbing thing is an empty server. Anything else i don`t care. There is always a boot button near by http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
Regards,

VFC*Crazyivan aka VFC*HOST

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

AFJ_Locust
12-29-2003, 10:55 AM
Slammin, I to host games not as often as you run your dedicated server, but I do host and Ive found that being to soft leeds to people taking advantage I wrote rules on all my maps I host & when someone breaks them I dont even bother warning them anymore I simply KICK them if they come back right away & curse me I ban them, I used to spend 3/4 of my hosting time typing & not flying & I had enough of that so just start kicking like mad they will learn belive me.

I also make maps, as you know, Some of the maps that slammin hosts are made by myself, I realy loved coming to fly Slammins server & play on the maps, your map rotation is exelent, a wide varity from summer to winter many ground targets & lots of fun, Please re-consider your decision.

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crazyivan1970
12-29-2003, 10:57 AM
Locust, he did reconsider http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

V!
Regards,

VFC*Crazyivan aka VFC*HOST

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Kozhedub: In combat potential, the Yak-3, La-7 and La-9 fighters were indisputably superior to the Bf-109s and Fw-190s. But, as they say, no matter how good the violin may be, much depends on the violinist. I always felt respect for an enemy pilot whose plane I failed to down.

JG26Red
12-29-2003, 11:32 AM
hey slammin, your server ruled... cant wait to see it back out there...

JG52_Helgstrand
12-29-2003, 12:18 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slammin_:
The server will be back.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you Slammin! That is good news.

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BS87
12-29-2003, 12:32 PM
Stiglr , there was no need for that post. You are the kind of people that ruin this community and almost caused slammin to shut down for good. Don't tell him to get a thicker skin, because believe me he does. If you had any idea about the amount of crap he takes, i'm sure you'd reconsider your statement.

Slammin, glad to hear you're reconsidering, take your time, and i hope to see you in the skys again soon. I actually liked the AAA in your maps. Sure, sometiems it lagged people a tiny bit, but it added that element of danger in attacking an enemy base. Not only do you have to worry about those fighters, but if the AAA actually hits you it can saw the wings off a B17 real quick.

Snoop_Baron
12-29-2003, 12:43 PM
Good to see you are keeping the server up Slammin!

Slammin_
12-29-2003, 01:46 PM
I actually consider Stiglr my 1st test since deciding to come back. No ill words for him, but he is a good example of what we all need less of in this community.

The server is up, settings a little different, FBD Stats running, though I'm only updating the web page once or twice per day until I find a better FREE solution.

I'm modifying/creating new missions, some with several objectives, as time permits. Warning! Some of these missions require updated hardware and at least 512MB RAM on the client machine. If ya can't run with the big dogs......

I am doing my best to try to trim things wherever possibly, but I guess there is the trade-off factor :-(

S! All, Thanks and enjoy!

Slam

Korolov
12-29-2003, 02:11 PM
Thats it Slammin! Teach those punks and fools how its done! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Someone gives you trouble... Well give him trouble back! Get back into the ring and knock his block off! (or ban him, whichever you prefer.)

About the max-difficulty/Full-Real stuff, I think some of you need to get out more. To be honest with you, I think a complete newbie would have much better luck with externals and icons off rather than have them on. That isn't to say that harder settings are less difficult; just different. A newbie without externals and icons has a better chance because nobody can use the external see-all function - thus more likely the newbie can sneak up on someone.

With externals on, etc. it gets real wild, not any less fun, but more wild. You have to put less work into being aware and more into pure capability.

And Copperhead, you need to look around a bit harder. Most of the guys that play with externals off are really great folks; more than likely you've met too many bad apples.

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TX-Zen
12-29-2003, 02:13 PM
Glad to hear that you are going to give it another swing Slammin,

S~!

TX-Zen
Black 6
TX-Squadron CO
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TX-OC3 Server 209.163.147.67:21000
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Snakeyes2050
12-29-2003, 04:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Slammin_:
The server is up, settings a little different, FBD Stats running, though I'm only updating the web page once or twice per day until I find a better FREE solution.

I'm modifying/creating new missions, some with several objectives, as time permits. Warning! Some of these missions require updated hardware and at least 512MB RAM on the client machine. If ya can't run with the big dogs......

I am doing my best to try to trim things wherever possibly, but I guess there is the trade-off factor :-(

S! All, Thanks and enjoy!

Slam<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Good deal. All of us that frequent your server on HL are happy that you reconsidered. Remember, the server is your environment funded by your nickel and you make the rules. If your guests don't find that agreeable, they can look for another host. Whenever I logged on to HL your server was usually near capacity. Apparently a lot of people enjoy the games there.

S!

GoodKn1ght
12-29-2003, 04:06 PM
Great choice slammin, i look forward to practicing gunnery there.

Take it as a compliment that people care enough to voice opinion on your settings. They bother to say things (even negative) in the first place because they LOVE your server.
Anyway good to hear the news. Liver and sheriff will be very happy http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Btw becareful of the sound bug when making the new maps. I think there are 2 ground vechiles that cause the ghost fire, its on these forums somewhere.

x__CRASH__x
12-29-2003, 06:08 PM
Cockpit on! Excellent! I look forward to flying there soon!

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Copperhead310th
12-29-2003, 07:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Korolov:
Thats it Slammin! Teach those punks and fools how its done! http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Someone gives you trouble... Well give him trouble back! Get back into the ring and knock his block off! (or ban him, whichever you prefer.)

About the max-difficulty/Full-Real stuff, I think some of you need to get out more. To be honest with you, I think a complete newbie would have much better luck with externals and icons off rather than have them on. That isn't to say that harder settings are less difficult; just different. A newbie without externals and icons has a better chance because nobody can use the external see-all function - thus more likely the newbie can sneak up on someone.

With externals on, etc. it gets real wild, not any less fun, but more wild. You have to put less work into being aware and more into pure capability.

And Copperhead, you need to look around a bit harder. Most of the guys that play with externals off are really great folks; more than likely you've met too many bad apples.

http://www.mechmodels.com/images/klv_ubisig1a.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Korolov:

I never said the full real guys were bad ppl...They just arn't any fun. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
The pigs are a pretty good bunch of guys, @ least the ones i know are. & most are very good sticks on thier settings. Me...Full real is just boring. I'm sure that if i had a hot rig....Track Ir cheat system...& all the goodies i would be one of those full real types my self....but i don't so i fly with externals & padlock on. Full real is really just full difficult. & for me there's just no fun in that. I'm very sure that in a FR server El & those guys would totally clean my clock. Why? becuse most probly have top notch systems & Tir,
Me i Have a marginal computer...less than what is best for this sim. & a cheap stick with a worthless hat switch that never seems to work right. So...i'm some what handicaped in FR servers. So why should i fly full real if A. I don't like it....B. I'm handicaped in them...C. I'm a better pliot in settings that i'm used to (AS THE FULL REAL GUYS ARE BETTER ON THIER SETTINGS)& I'm more of a challange for the Best pilots in a more relaxed settings server. I don't think any one here enjoys an easy kill. An easy kill is just not 1/2 as fun as 1 you had to work your @ss off to get. IN fr servers i'm a sitting duck. We'll see if i get better on FR settings after i can afford to upgrade & get tir & all the goodies. Till then i'll stay with the medium settings.

El Wrote:
"Sorry there Copperhead, but I was under the imperession that you flew out of the 'pit.

My bad.

Well, we'll have to see about Ghost Skys. Padlock is OK, but externals for a competetion won't cut it with me. Unless padlock is off.
Padlock+External= radar for n00bs....

Again, I'm sorry about the cockpit thing."

NP but as i said above that's how i haved to fly because i'm hadicaped any other way right now.

Baldie wrote:
"Whats the deal with squads wanting to make a clan-war with BP's?

I detect some kind of jealousy or something.

I've got a virtual beer on Lixma ;-)"

Baldie..well this is a WAR SIM after all. lol
& nothing wrong with a little freindly compatition among squads. actually we've flown against the Blitz Pigs before. They won the day in the day but we were able to hold our own.
That was the night me & HD wew shooting each other down in turn. I kinda lost count but Heavy Delta was up on me by 4 kills. i think i'm 5 & 9 against HD right now. I used to do that a lot. keep up with my kills vs pilot's i liked to fly against. I don't do that too much any more. But it's all in fun. As for ghost skies it's a competative Dogfight league. Kinda self explanitory. If you're in a league you should expect to get a challange from another squadron from time to time & like i said it's all in fun. I fly the allied side & as such the axis pilots are all coinsiderd enemy combatants.
Some of those guys i like & some i don't. I fly a pretty good bit with the guys from JG 27. an Enemy squad from our point of view but all around a pretty cool bunch of guys. But if i kill 1 of them thier going on our kill board.
I have a very nice collection of axis kills.
JG 2, 3, 4, 5, & 6. I'm still looking for a JG 1 for my collection. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif & i'm pretty proud of my 2 JG 300 kills. both were @ the same time on full real in a P-39 vs 109G-6's. After i watched the track i saw it was one of the best fights i'd ever had. Call it an emertion thing.
& not all of them get on the board. Some i forget to wrote down or wasn't rolling the gun camera at the time. so no proof. That happens a lot actually. :|
But like i said it's a war based sim & it's all in fun.

Now i'm out of here cause i feel like i'm high jacking slamin's thread.
(sorry slam)

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Slammin_
12-29-2003, 09:03 PM
Nothing to hijack - I'm going to continue running my server. I do think you bring up a very valid point though.

I have Tir and though I know it would be a great advantage with no externals and no padlock, I still cannot get used to it, so right now it is more of a handicap for me. I guess it is kind of like FFB in a sense; adds immersion, where w/o FBB you can normally only hear and see stalls or bullet hits, but w/FFB you can also feel them. But at the same time, having the stick jerk you off target when you fire your guns, when nobody else has this happen, is a disadvantage :P

Of course those that are adept with Tir prefer No Ext and No Padlock, and though I'm not adept yet, I can see why. It is an edge in the right environment. For me, I'm pretty good at tracking by using my hat switch views (thanks Cougar!) I have never met a padlock I've liked either, but I have used padlock before and can also understand how those that are good with padlock cannot want to do without it. It is great we have so many options!

An then there are options. All the hoopla about how LOMAC and DOOM XX is going to task your currents systems etc. because LOMAC was created to expect the PC's of tomorrow! blah blah. Folks, we need these PC's today! I have so many ideas for creating great missions, but once you go there, you really need to have a front line PC to run them.

I've got a couple of missions online right now that make most folks bail. I'll hold off on creating any more like that but I was truely surprised this sim has such ability to bring most modestly configured machines to their knees.

Sure, I can scale things down to more realistic levels, and I probaly will, but man, I'm a space sim freak for real!

I'll be glad when you all upgrade!

S! Slam

MosDef_99th
12-29-2003, 09:49 PM
Glad to see you back Slammin; but you know I didn't know you had a web page;...for stats? Could youi give a url please? Thanks

Slammin_
12-29-2003, 10:28 PM
When I said that, I had no idea that FBD Stats was going to generate so many files! I'll probably just wound up building my own linux box to host a server for the stats. I may do that this weekend.

When I did finally get FDB Stats running, I was sooo happy! and created it on my ISP's free web host page at: http://www.geocities.com/s1ammin/archivestats.html . I can only update the page 5 files at a time, but as anyone that has run FBD Stats knows, a busy server generates hundreds of files per day, so I'm definitely going to have to work something else out in order to provide stats. To upload all the files that FBD Stats generates, 5 files at a time would be like weaving baskets. I ain't there yet - I still know who the current president is - Ronald Reagan. Once I forget that, weaving baskets might be something I look forward to.

Hopefully I can get some stats going. I am really impressed with everything FBD. Those guys really laid things out and left nothing out. I think most of you would be completely surprised to see you own performances as FBD presents it all. Really good stuff and I WILL find a way to do this, but if anyone has a web server that can host the files, that would be great!

Slam

Korolov
12-29-2003, 10:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
Korolov:

I never said the full real guys were bad ppl...They just arn't any fun. http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
The pigs are a pretty good bunch of guys, @ least the ones i know are. & most are very good sticks on thier settings. Me...Full real is just boring. I'm sure that if i had a hot rig....Track Ir cheat system...& all the goodies i would be one of those full real types my self....but i don't so i fly with externals & padlock on. Full real is really just full difficult. & for me there's just no fun in that. I'm very sure that in a FR server El & those guys would totally clean my clock. Why? becuse most probly have top notch systems & Tir,
Me i Have a marginal computer...less than what is best for this sim. & a cheap stick with a worthless hat switch that never seems to work right. So...i'm some what handicaped in FR servers. So why should i fly full real if A. I don't like it....B. I'm handicaped in them...C. I'm a better pliot in settings that i'm used to (AS THE FULL REAL GUYS ARE BETTER ON THIER SETTINGS)& I'm more of a challange for the Best pilots in a more relaxed settings server. I don't think any one here enjoys an easy kill. An easy kill is just not 1/2 as fun as 1 you had to work your @ss off to get. IN fr servers i'm a sitting duck. We'll see if i get better on FR settings after i can afford to upgrade & get tir & all the goodies. Till then i'll stay with the medium settings.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, everyone is entitled to what they enjoy, no problem with that. Don't really have a super system though... or Trackir.

What I don't like about externals & icons being on is that you no longer have the advantage/disadvantage of stealth. The big lumbering heavy fighters like P-47s loose because they can't strike without being seen. With externals off, theres no way for people to track these less common fighters.

On the other hand, we can't have AI planes with externals off. Meh.

But like you say, everyone is entitled to what they enjoy, and if you don't enjoy certain settings, no problem.

I do hope one day you can give it a better shot - its a big difference from easier settings.

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GoodKn1ght
12-30-2003, 04:40 AM
not to hijack the thread but copperhead seems to be confused. the best pilots reside in 'fr' settings accept it or not. They are good in all settings. I play all settings personally, and im hoping you remember flying against my ki in an arcade environment. Take that as proof.

Externals makes it so easy there is no question. you know exactly what move to make at exactly what time to aviod being shot, too easy (but fun nevertheless and good practice).
goodday.

ps. i have the same crappy equipment you do, and i dont appear to be handicapped in fr settings.

LilHorse
12-30-2003, 10:19 AM
I think it's all about what you enjoy and are used to. I don't have a hot-rod rig or TIR. I have a dial-up connection and I still prefer FR. It's just a different approach to the sim. Some prefer a gamer perspective and others prefer a greater immersion or mission type perspective. Surprise was a very important element in RL (by now we all know about the 80% of kills by bounce stat). And you get that with FR.

AFJ_Locust
12-30-2003, 12:11 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GoodKn1ght:
not to hijack the thread but copperhead seems to be confused. the best pilots reside in 'fr' settings accept it or not. They are good in all settings. I play all settings personally, and im hoping you remember flying against my ki in an arcade environment. Take that as proof.

Externals makes it so easy there is no question. you know exactly what move to make at exactly what time to aviod being shot, too easy (but fun nevertheless and good practice).
goodday.

ps. i have the same crappy equipment you do, and i dont appear to be handicapped in fr settings.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Stop braging about your damed ki any fool can fly that Duck... Quack !!!!!!!

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Raiden48
12-30-2003, 01:29 PM
I think Slammins server was one of the best too, its almost always full and its fun to fly in it. By the way, PLEASE dont go full real, im 100% sure the number of players on your server will decrease dramaticly if you go full real http://ubbxforums.ubi.com/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

XyZspineZyX
12-30-2003, 04:30 PM
BS87:

Come on. He comes in here whining and crying because some doofus doesn't like his settings? He's providing a service and if others don't like it, so what? You can't control what other people are gonna do in a chat room or online...except, as others noted just list your rules and "kick first, ask questions later".

I stand behind that post. Get over it and move on. Don't let the bastiges get you down.

JG52MadAdler
12-31-2003, 04:36 AM
Welcome Back Slammin!
The FBD stats are great!
We have your six!

~SA~


Fliege mit Mut, Fliege mit Ehre