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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 08:33 PM
Testing the german vs russian planes on my network 2 comps side by side I have noticed all the vvs planes suffer blackouts about 3 seconds later before the 190s and 109s.

I heard that the seat positioning is why oleg gave them better blackout levels I really think is more bs, 1 there was no constraint's smaller pilots are less prone to blackouts, none wore g-suits. More experienced pilots built up higher tolerances before blacking out.

so far

mig-3u to the yak3 have better acceleration to 6000 feet

vvs guns have very little recoil and are alot more
effective

with the exception of the mig3s they all have superior damage models

and they all blackout 2-3 seconds after 190s and 109s in the same dive bank and elevator use.

And the ger have the 109k which has a slight climb advantage about 1000 meters when bnzing from 6000 but the yak3 has more torque and will gain on you in the dive till 680-700

Any of the charts people care to back this up it would be appreciated skychimp buzzu and many others




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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 08:33 PM
Testing the german vs russian planes on my network 2 comps side by side I have noticed all the vvs planes suffer blackouts about 3 seconds later before the 190s and 109s.

I heard that the seat positioning is why oleg gave them better blackout levels I really think is more bs, 1 there was no constraint's smaller pilots are less prone to blackouts, none wore g-suits. More experienced pilots built up higher tolerances before blacking out.

so far

mig-3u to the yak3 have better acceleration to 6000 feet

vvs guns have very little recoil and are alot more
effective

with the exception of the mig3s they all have superior damage models

and they all blackout 2-3 seconds after 190s and 109s in the same dive bank and elevator use.

And the ger have the 109k which has a slight climb advantage about 1000 meters when bnzing from 6000 but the yak3 has more torque and will gain on you in the dive till 680-700

Any of the charts people care to back this up it would be appreciated skychimp buzzu and many others




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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 08:40 PM
Yeah, I've observed similar things although I haven't done an actual side by side contest. The climb rates of some VVS planes seems to be a little on the high side.



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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 08:42 PM
The 109 F4 must be modeled with a realy newbie pilot inside, he blacksout all the time.

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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 08:47 PM
What version of FB 1.0 do you have? Russian fighters recoil far worse than German.

Not a bad question, as I notice some minor differences posted here and there. I picked up my FB only 2 months ago. Maybe they slip in changed code continously.

XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 08:55 PM
im running 1.0

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Cpt.LoneRanger
07-04-2003, 09:02 PM
Yes. Positioning of the pilot does play a role. Pitty they messed up exactly that on P40, cause this is one of it's main design features......


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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 09:03 PM
LeadSpitter_ wrote:
- vvs guns have very little recoil and are alot more
- effective

I agree with an exception of I153.


- with the exception of the mig3s they all have
- superior damage models


FW190 eats up ammo like a sponge.


- and they all blackout 2-3 seconds after 190s and
- 109s in the same dive bank and elevator use.


My impression is exactly opposite.VVS blackout much earlier.
They take high G when turning,LW is only pulling up(vertical).


- And the ger have the 109k which has a slight climb
- advantage about 1000 meters when bnzing from 6000
- but the yak3 has more torque and will gain on you in
- the dive till 680-700


Right,diving speeds are f*cked up.





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XyZspineZyX
07-04-2003, 09:21 PM
Car guy, with the blackouts im testing is the same turn with the same elevator use staying directly on the yak la lagg migs tail, of course the vvs will black out from using the extreme manuevers but im testing them with the same exact turn rate with the speed of 600km exactly

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