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zugfuhrer
09-03-2006, 06:14 AM
Dont focus that it is a propagande movie, and that the Red army isnt using the proper battle tecnique, but what aircraft is used for the ground attacks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STQHH_hJlhM&mode=related&search=

msalama
09-03-2006, 06:48 AM
I'd say they were Yakovlevs, but not sure about the type... Yak-50?

Tanks were T-34s at any rate http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

EDIT: The planes were Yak-11s is my guess.

Deedsundone
09-03-2006, 07:19 AM
AT-6 Texan

TROOPER117
09-03-2006, 07:53 AM
Yep.. the Texan..
Regardless of the propoganda content.. Excellent series of films, using authentic kit and vehicles.. Liked the obvious SOP of dropping the belt kit before legging it out to the soviet tanks, (move faster, less weight to lug about, more mobility, and the obvious 100% reliance on your mates in your section to cover you!).. Superb, never seen them before..

Regards.. Dave S.

zugfuhrer
09-03-2006, 08:30 AM
Thx I cant put anything against that its a texan after scrutinized it on the web, but how did the german layed their hands on this aircraft? The film Eisener Herz "M√¬§nner gegen panzer" is an instruction film for the army, produced in 1943.

Note that the antitank gun got the oversized HEAT-grenade loaded at the muzzle of the gun.
Also note the narrow trench, dug by a trench-digging device I think.
They also separated the infantery from the armour. As far as I know, Armoured Personal carriers wasnt supplied to USSR-units in great numbers.
They made a lot of them after the war, and the production continues.

Another clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9elpbW4c18&search=panzer

the new thing is the hand-held antitank weapons.

Skarphol
09-04-2006, 03:31 AM
Those planes are not T-6 Texans.
The Texans has retractable undercarriage and a triangular shaped fin. I think these are another North American product, a predecessor to the Texan that the germans got hold of early in the war. Can't remember the type though.

Skarphol

BiscuitKnight
09-04-2006, 03:47 AM
Interesting clips: note the use of Pre-1942 T-34s. Later 1942 models had a hexagonal turret, and then from Winter 1944-45 the T-34/85 was introduced, with a much larger turret. In both clips, they're using the pre-1941 models (save for a KV-1 and another tank I couldn't identify at the end of the panzerfaust clip)

But... why does it say "Faustpatrone" when he's clearly operating a Panzerfaust? They were as different as LaGG-1s and La-7s!

Deedsundone
09-04-2006, 07:43 AM
I revert my earlier answer as AT-6 Texan.The BT-9 "Yale" look much more like it.
http://www.boeing.com/history/bna/bt9.htm
http://www.warbirdalley.com/bt9.htm

Skarphol
09-04-2006, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by Deedsundone:
I revert my earlier answer as AT-6 Texan.The BT-9 "Yale" look much more like it.


Yes, that's the one!
Seems like the Germans got hold of a few of those when they invaded France.

Skarphol