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Mysticpuma2003
08-06-2007, 12:13 AM
Not after a picture of a pilot in Field Dress uniform, I'm trying to get a picture showing a pilot in a flight suite, flying hat, goggles, air mask, life preserver and parachute.

I have this USAAF set of pictures:

http://www.303rdbg.com/uniforms-gear-fighter.html

and also have a very good one in "Mustang Aces of the Eighth Air Force".

However trying to get a good picture of a pilot wearing the combat dress is proving difficult.

I know there are many different types, but a good generic one is proving difficult, can anyone help?

Cheers, MP.

Mysticpuma2003
08-06-2007, 12:13 AM
Not after a picture of a pilot in Field Dress uniform, I'm trying to get a picture showing a pilot in a flight suite, flying hat, goggles, air mask, life preserver and parachute.

I have this USAAF set of pictures:

http://www.303rdbg.com/uniforms-gear-fighter.html

and also have a very good one in "Mustang Aces of the Eighth Air Force".

However trying to get a good picture of a pilot wearing the combat dress is proving difficult.

I know there are many different types, but a good generic one is proving difficult, can anyone help?

Cheers, MP.

Waldo.Pepper
08-06-2007, 12:56 AM
Here are some. Hope they help.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Luftwaffe%20pilots%20in%20colour/08-05-2007113142PM.jpg

And the guy on the right, has nothing!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Luftwaffe%20pilots%20in%20colour/08-05-2007113230PM.jpg

A Luftwaffe Sergeant in service dress wearing a flying helmet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/WaldoPepper/Luftwaffe%20pilots%20in%20colour/anewcar.jpg

The photo shows Ofw. Beckendorff, "Mucki" to his friends, immediately after landing. With the flowers in hand, he receives the congratulations of the Staffelkapitan of 7/St.G. 1, Lt, Willi Viertel, for the benefit of the photographers. A few days later, on 31 August 1943, Viertel was shot down by ground fire while attacking enemy tanks near Glukbov. His aircraft (Ju 87 D-3 Werknr. 2279) sustained a direct hit and crashed from a height of 300 meters. Viertel and his gunner Ofw. Heinrich Hippe were both killed.

woofiedog
08-06-2007, 01:15 AM
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http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200603/r78758_225624.jpg

JG54_Lukas
08-06-2007, 01:22 AM
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elephant_il2
08-06-2007, 01:46 AM
Check out this site too:
http://www.rathbonemuseum.com/GERMANY/GERMain.html
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elephant_il2
08-06-2007, 02:02 AM
I have tons of color pics on LW flight clothing and equipment throughout the war.
If you need any thing specifically I can scan some for you.

Mysticpuma2003
08-06-2007, 04:14 AM
Hi elephant and Waldo. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

That's exactly the sort of images I am looking for.

It really is of a pilot in the outfit he would have worn, sat in his plane as it took to the skies for battle.

As you can see from the USAAF pictures, I need images that show, flying suit or trousers with jacket. Flying hat, goggles, maybe neck scarf or collar and tie? Air mask and tube, gloves life preserver and parachute and finally boots.

Thanks again for all your help, if what I'm planning works out, this could be rather good http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cheers, MP.

Mysticpuma2003
08-07-2007, 01:04 AM
Ok, a bump but also I've changed the title of the original post.

Could still do with some more colour pictures, but the guys working on 'a project' has also suggested that it would be useful to have some pictures of Soviet Pilots too!

So, following the above question, has anyone got full length or at least 3/4 colour images of a Soviet Pilot (still need Luftwaffe too), wearing combat outfit as though just about to get into a plane going to battle or just returning from battle?

Hopefully showing:

Flying suit or trousers with jacket. Flying hat, goggles, maybe neck scarf or collar and tie? Air mask and tube, gloves life preserver and parachute and finally boots.

Thanks for any help again, MP.

Mysticpuma2003
08-08-2007, 02:01 AM
Just bumping this again, as the title has once more chenged to include Japanese and RAF....there is a reason http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Cheers MP.

Aaron_GT
08-08-2007, 03:45 AM
Puma,

If you are after colour references (i.e. trying to work out what colour things were) DON'T rely on WW2 colour photography. Having been a collector of WW2 equipment I can assure you that the colour balance on WW2 photographs if often horrendously off. Even if the colour balance was correct it is also true that the colour of the WW2 equipment itself varied quite a bit between manufacturer, and then it might fade or discolou r in use (and different versions of the same colour by different manufacturers behaved differently under different conditions).

For example WW2 US Army M1941 jackets could vary in colour from a little darker than a pair of chino trousers (but the same hue) to a light green, and might change under sunlight to a much browner shade. And officially they were all the same colour!

Typically a unit would be issued with the same stuff from the same batch so you'd expect similar shades in a single unit, apart from replacements who might get uniforms from a different batch with different shades. In post-war war films, especially from the 1960s, you can see that someone was ordered to obtain 20 jackets and they are all from different batches with sometimes very wide variations in shades, more so than you see in WW2 photos. These days the uniforms are often made from scratch for films, and some of them are pretty good.

Mysticpuma2003
08-08-2007, 09:03 AM
Thanks Aaron.

Yes I understand about degradation of colour imagery, but this is more as a guide that I require colour pictures. Official colours are reasonably easy to track down, it's just the outfit and clothing are difficult to seperate on a flat B+W image, but colour helps pick out the individual items separation and size.

A lot of the Black and greys blens into each other, so colour helps give me a better understanding.

Thanks for the input though, I never knew this topic would be so difficult.

Cheers, MP.

pilotpimpf
08-08-2007, 04:32 PM
Here you go,http://users.skynet.be/vonweyersberg/Luftwaffe.htm all original stuff, an amazing collection.
Hope that helps.