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SpringHeeledJak
12-10-2006, 11:46 AM
Seriously? Why does it even matter? That ticked me off when I read a post on this site that someone actually didnt want this game to come out on 360.

swift06
12-10-2006, 12:58 PM
Because this game looks awesome, and is no longer for PS3 and I would imagine that would annoy some PS3 fanatics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif
And the 360 version is said to have better AI so maybe PS3 owners feel like they're missing out although we don't know if the PS3 version has anything the 360 doesn't yet.

RetiredHatch
12-10-2006, 01:17 PM
Ok the whole better AI thing is bull but I agree it doesn't matter what system it comes on I own a ps3 and frankly the games gonna be exactly the same on either one and that's that it's just ps3 people are losing so many good exclusives it's kind of hurting ps3 sales and if they lose ps3 sales there might not be a ps4 but whose looking that far ahead hm? we got 5 years still to see what the ps3 will bring maybe 360 will win maybe ps3 will win hell maybe even wii will win the demand is so high for that thing Oh yea and it's fun ya'll should seriously considering playing it at the store or pickin' one up it's good yay wii sports

SpringHeeledJak
12-10-2006, 01:21 PM
If either of the games are better I'd say it would be on 360 only becuase it is set to come out later so they have more time to work on it and fix it up.

RetiredHatch
12-10-2006, 01:44 PM
The 360 and ps3 versions are coming out on the exact same day unless it's been changed which i haven't heard any and news trust me i'm watching this game like a hawk

JN006
12-10-2006, 08:18 PM
PS3 Vs Xbox360 (http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=0&cId=3155393)

You make your own opinion!

2-3rd gen games = Xbox360
Vs
1st gen games = PS3

Even with that being said, I still think that it doesn't worth it (200$ more) and not because I'm cheap! Instead, I've bought myself the Wii along with my 360..

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You decide!

lpcrispo
12-11-2006, 06:55 AM
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162742/p-1.html

if only I could find a Wii... I already have the 360...

II_Leader_II
12-11-2006, 08:05 AM
^^Same..i have a 360 and want the wii

JN006
12-11-2006, 10:12 AM
hehe!

Bought mine through Ubi! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

RetiredHatch
12-11-2006, 06:21 PM
I got a Wii AND a PS3

Howler13
12-11-2006, 10:46 PM
I'm just waiting for Ubi to annouce a Wii version... oh, c'mon, you know it COULD happen... =] That's the only way I'll get to play it, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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lpcrispo
12-12-2006, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by lpcrispo:
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6162742/p-1.html

if only I could find a Wii... I already have the 360...

YESSS.. finally got mine http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif viva toysrus.ca :P
now the waiting game... cause, it still need to be shipped http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

RetiredHatch
12-12-2006, 02:57 PM
Atleast you got ahold of one (eventually) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif now you can have fun playing zelda ^_^_^ which by the way is soooo fun

DarkCrawler90
12-13-2006, 08:11 AM
I have no idea. They are able to excatly play it the same even when it comes to two systems at once...<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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katz_bg
12-13-2006, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by swift06:
And the 360 version is said to have better AI
Actually it's the other way around. I believe in an interview Jade said that this advanced AI wouldn't have been possible without the PS3. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/halo.gif<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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Howler13
12-13-2006, 09:34 AM
I think one of the reasons some people wanted it to be a PS3 exclusive, is because, quite frankly, the PS3 isn't getting much love. It made people happy to see a game like AC, a game that would make getting a PS3 worth it. An anounced 360 version kind of shattered that dream. But, if you ask me, it makes sense.

Ubi's always been a company that shows love to all the systems. Prince of Persia was all three (and PC), Spinter Cell is all three. Why make AC an exclusive, when another system of comparable power is out? I can understand them not extending the love to the Wii (though I still hold out hope), the 360 anouncement was kind of an "about time." I'm not partial, I own neither, and won't be getting a PS3 for many years. I think it's silly to be calling for it to be a PS3 exclusive, just like I think it's stupid some were calling for it to be a 360 exclusive. What's it matter, it's not like it won't be a good game if it's on more than one platforms.

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RetiredHatch
12-13-2006, 04:43 PM
Summed it up perfectly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

aedmon430
12-13-2006, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by Howler13:
I think one of the reasons some people wanted it to be a PS3 exclusive, is because, quite frankly, the PS3 isn't getting much love. It made people happy to see a game like AC, a game that would make getting a PS3 worth it.


I see what you mean, but its kind of flawed. If someone doesn't own either the PS3 or 360 and can't decide, why would they want a huge title to only come out on one system? Sure sony isn't getting much love in the form of titles, but if you already own a PS3 it doesn't matter much at all to you if AC were to be released exclusively, or for the 360 as well.


Ubi is a business, and has to make money. A huge title like this simply cannot miss out on a market as large as the 360 (currently, and at time of AC's release, is much larger than PS3's)

Also, IIRC, MS bought the exclusive for all future SC's.

JN006
12-13-2006, 09:49 PM
Well, one thing I would like to say is:
Rare are the companies that can go exclusive on one system with the next-gen consoles! R&D and production times are so expensive that in the bottom line, they need to maximise their benefits or at least reach profitability. All that issue was about a TIME exclusivity to PS3. You all went waco saying why, why, why! I believe there is nothing wrong with time exclusivity personnally and I own a 360/Wii. I would have waited too... (Well, technically! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

By the way, Prince of persia was exclusive 6 months for the Playstation. Nothing new under the sun!

I have to agree with aedmon430. The PS3 situation now is not helping them getting love from anyone. Games are port from a 360 version in most occassions. Graphs and AI, well the whole game is not pushed to the edge. Plus the fact that Sony's consoles always been a pain in the a$$ to work with. Nothing changed on this topic....!

aedmon430
12-13-2006, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by JN006:
Well, one thing I would like to say is:
Rare are the companies that can go exclusive on one system with the next-gen consoles! R&D and production times are so expensive that in the bottom line, they need to maximise their benefits or at least reach profitability. All that issue was about a TIME exclusivity to PS3. You all went waco saying why, why, why! I believe there is nothing wrong with time exclusivity personnally and I own a 360/Wii. I would have waited too... (Well, technically! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

By the way, Prince of persia was exclusive 6 months for the Playstation. Nothing new under the sun!

I have to agree with aedmon430. The PS3 situation now is not helping them getting love from anyone. Games are port from a 360 version in most occassions. Graphs and AI, well the whole game is not pushed to the edge. Plus the fact that Sony's consoles always been a pain in the a$$ to work with. Nothing changed on this topic....!

Yup, the time exclusivity is another thing. GTA SA was on PS2 for quite some time before coming to xbox, but as of my understanding the next one will launch simultaniously.

And like you said, it is easier (at least for now, and IMO, always will be) to write games for 360 and port to PS3. The problem for PS3 owners is they won't get games that push the system to the max unless its either exclusive or a 1st party title. But a developer like Ubi (amoung many others) can't spend the time and money developing these games solely for one system. A top name game like AC, SC, R6, GR, BiA can easily run up 10's of millions. With as small as the PS3 market is (as of now and a while longer) there is little money to be made for an exclusive title. The only way you will see that, is in the case of MS buying out Ubi (or other publishers) for rights.

Which leads to a whole nother can of worms, MS is not in the business of video games to make money, Sony is. Sony lost the console war the day MS announced it was entering. MS doesn't care about the xbox, they are looking much further into the future to a sole household PC/internet/TV/entertainment(games) "system". They will make the xbox as good as they can for the sole reason of building market share, experience, and development towards that goal.

RetiredHatch
12-14-2006, 03:02 PM
Which leads to a whole nother can of worms, MS is not in the business of video games to make money, Sony is. Sony lost the console war the day MS announced it was entering. MS doesn't care about the xbox, they are looking much further into the future to a sole household PC/internet/TV/entertainment(games) "system". They will make the xbox as good as they can for the sole reason of building market share, experience, and development towards that goal.


I believe that's what Playstation is doing already with their machine...

and I bought a PS3 because I heard Assassin's was going to be an exlusive and even though I knew it was only timed I wanted Assassin's right away and by the time I heard otherwise I was already sold to PS3 I'm sure game's like Assassin's and Grand Theft Auto or Metal Gear Solid sell consoles all by themselves just like Assassin's did to me I got a PS3 (and a wii cause of Zelda) now and I can't wait for Assassin's still http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

what i was saying Assassin's being an exlusive (timed or not) sold some PS3 consoles or would have if they hadn't lost the benefit of it being an exlusive

aedmon430
12-14-2006, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by RetiredHatch:

and I bought a PS3 because I heard Assassin's was going to be an exlusive and even though I knew it was only timed I wanted Assassin's right away and by the time I heard otherwise I was already sold to PS3 I'm sure game's like Assassin's and Grand Theft Auto or Metal Gear Solid sell consoles all by themselves just like Assassin's did to me I got a PS3 (and a wii cause of Zelda) now and I can't wait for Assassin's still http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

what i was saying Assassin's being an exlusive (timed or not) sold some PS3 consoles or would have if they hadn't lost the benefit of it being an exlusive

I think we're on a different plane of thought here. I simply don't see the logic in why someone who was trying to decide between 360 and PS3 would want a big name title to only come out for one system?

JN006
12-14-2006, 10:23 PM
I have to agree with you on most points aedmon430.

But on the point that a first party would be more able to push the console (or willing to invest more time/money/ressource, not sure what you exactly meant between the two)than other devs... I'm not sharing your point of view.

Take Sony's 989 studio which developped the basketball game NBA 07 for example. They should have been able, more than anybody, to push their console, or at least easely get the intern support to debug their stuff, what the 2nd and 3rd party dev are strugling to get from SCEA. Why have they ship one of the crapiest basketball game of the history? (Exageration!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif) Don't tell me they ONLY wanted to make money on release date of the console! Sure they wanted that as well. I believe this explain a little more the complexity of the Playstation consoles and especially the PS3, on programming point of view. If their own boys can't do it, well great effort from the other one's trying out!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/clap.gif
NBA07 (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/nba07/index.html)

Now regarding RetiredHatch's comment:
It's good that he bought a PS3, he made a good deal in my opinion. But, I don't believe that the extra 200$ will deliver that much more than what the 360 can. Except a blueray, which is already a good investment. Sure AC is a system seller and not all videogames are, but in the meantime, rare are the people who would ONLY buy a console for the games (little percentage of peeps)

Therefore, like you english peoples are saying: Put your money where your mouth is. I don't believe that PS3 has, and it's normal since the console just launched recently, but my point is that I think it might never deliever a whole lot more than: a Blueray.

That's my personal opinion and I do respect everyone's inteligent point of view here!

Cheers!
JN006

aedmon430
12-14-2006, 10:39 PM
Originally posted by JN006:
Don't tell me they ONLY wanted to make money on release date of the console!

Honestly, I do believe that. They needed to get as many games out as they could for launch. And thats not the only game thats a launch flop.

CoD3 has no online voice chat? unacceptable
Tony Hawk has no online period. (360 does)

Those are just the two I can remember off the top of my head (I don't own a PS3)

Look at how terrible the online was for CoD2 when 360 came out. It was virtually unplayable!



In my opinion, nearly any game that comes out for both the 360 and PS3, is either going to be equal, or better on 360. Because most of those games will be a port to PS3.

JN006
12-14-2006, 10:48 PM
True ... These are other title that suffered from the PS3 "we need to launch games ASAP" policy.

There will be games that will only be developped on/for PS3. Depending on the games, some will be better on the 360 BUT other will be better on the PS3. My point is that you might not have huge gap between the two... at least for a good 2 years...
That would justifying the extra 200$ NOW.

But again, I'm no fanboy, I do believe the PS3 is a good machine, nice looking one too and probably of good quality.

aedmon430
12-14-2006, 11:01 PM
PS3 is a good machine, no doubt. In my opinion, not worth the extra cash though, and certainly not worth it when I already have a 360 (and a Wii)


For me, being a huge PS2 fan, the only games I would get a PS3 for would have been GTA, and GT5. But GTA is no longer exclusive, and Forza is much more of a simulation racer than GranTurismo is.

JN006
12-14-2006, 11:09 PM
You're one crazy dude!
All three machines!!
You're like one of my friend who also bought them all! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I have a 360 and a Wii.
To me, MGS is also a system seller because, I WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME BIG TIME!
There is not much more games that makes me regrets of not having a PS3, but this one is! And the new F1 (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/gamespace/updates.php?pid=928392&sid=6163167&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&click=topslot) racing game , Gran Turismo, Motorstorm, and a few more.

But being in the videogame field, I can always borow one from work over the weekend and try them all! I'm not crazy enough (not to offense, just phrasing)to buy all three, plus my girl would kick my a$$ big time! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

aedmon430
12-14-2006, 11:15 PM
Yes, MGS is a huge title. Not one I ever got attached to though, so that leaves me out. The F1 game looks phenominal, but F1 games have always sold very poorly. And Gran Turismo peaked at 3, in my opinion. Forza has taken their crown of king of the racers.

No no, I don't have PS3, nor will I get one.

I do however have good PC, and if I can't restrain myself I will be getting Armed Assault. But I feel my outside life will come to an end if that happens.

Zelda and Rainbow6 are already too much on me. Then it goes to Forza 2, Graw2, then BiA:HH and AC. I'm in trouble.


Its a good time to be a gamer http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JN006
12-14-2006, 11:19 PM
Can't argue 'bout that!
Games are at their best. Being a visual artists, I'm in heaven (not on all games though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif)

Only on AC http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Howler13
12-15-2006, 09:20 AM
I will, in time, have to get a PS3 for three reasons: Ratchet & Clank 5, Kingdom Hearts 3, and Final Fantasy 7 (Praying day and night they decide to actually remake it...). While I'm in no rush to get the system, two of the games are Square-Enix games, so I can wait about 4 years without missing anything http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, but eventually I'll need to fork over the money. By that time, the system should be in bigger supply and hopefully cheaper, but at the time I feel no need to get the system. It means I'll miss some games like AC, but sacrifices must be made... It should still be good a few years from now, right?<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

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RetiredHatch
12-15-2006, 01:05 PM
It's not the people who are deciding on consoles that want assassin's to be a ps3 exlusive it's the die-hard sony fans who don't want to see sony fall behind to microsoft Assassin's was a system seller (obviously I bought a ps3 for it >.< http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif) and now it's not because it's not theirs anymore

Oh and by the way i'm a she... just for the record


oh and i can't wait for kindgom hearts 3 i bought a ps2 after i saw the kingdom hearts 1 commercial XD i'm big on the whole buy a whole console just for one game... but it was a good investment usually is in the long run

JN006
12-15-2006, 08:45 PM
I'm sorry for that...well... I couldn't know but still http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I don't want the PS3 to go down. Again, being in the industry, I want all console to share their place on the market. What pisses me off are the "no reason fanboy" that swear PS3 is the next best thing since the wheel... It's good! 360 is good also! Get over it you know!

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RetiredHatch
12-16-2006, 09:23 PM
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oh and its ok >.> retiredhatch is my gamertag (random generated) x.x everyone thinks i'm a little boy on that so its ok i understand retiredhatch isn't exactly girly or nothin'

Maximus1170
12-18-2006, 02:45 PM
I think that diehard PS3 fans wanted AC not to appear on the 360 because it would mean that PS3 would lose another exclusive title that looked really promising.<div class="ev_tpc_signature">

There are exceptions to everything, nothing is absolute.

aedmon430
12-18-2006, 06:24 PM
well, looks like as of now, I have the triple crown.

360
PS3
Wii

Won the PS3 (60GB) at work today, I'm selling it though http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Wherethesnow
12-18-2006, 07:41 PM
i got the ps3 and Im probably not a big fan of console games, only the ones on PC.
i was going to get the 360 too but too many of my friends alrdy have one, and the wii.

anyway, I was a bit dissapointed when I found out that AC was going to be on the 360, It was one of the reasons i got the ps3, looked like a good game to show off the ps3s capabilities.

But 10 seconds after that I found out that only one other person in my grade has a ps3, and hes definetly not gonna get AC. If AC appears on the 360 I can talk to my friends with the 360 about the game.

deadskies
12-06-2009, 07:08 AM
I know this thread's really old, but I can't help but notice how many ppl are (either through lack of intelligence, or misinformation) are saying the 360 is better or just as good or it doesn't matter or what. But I'd like to let you know something, in my own special way, so, unintelligent X-box fanboys *Raises Bullhorn to mouth*: ATTENTION ALL TOWELS, YOU HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF!!! WAIT FOR YOUR DESIGNATED RED RING OF DEATH TO ENCIRCLE YOU AND KILL OFF ALL YOUR GAMING PLEASURE. DO NOT CRY OR COMPLAIN, IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT FOR BUYING A SYSTEM THAT WAS OBSOLETE BEFORE IT WAS EVEN FINISHED BECAUSE IT WAS CHEAPER, ALSO ENJOY PAYING AN EXORBITANT AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR AN INFERIOR ONLINE EXPERIENCE THAN WHAT WE INTELLIGENT CONSUMERS GET FOR FREE!!!!

deadskies
12-06-2009, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by JN006:
I'm sorry for that...well... I couldn't know but still http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I don't want the PS3 to go down. Again, being in the industry, I want all console to share their place on the market. What ****es me off are the "no reason fanboy" that swear PS3 is the next best thing since the wheel... It's good! 360 is good also! Get over it you know!

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