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ytareh
07-01-2010, 03:49 AM
Pity, would have surely helped with sales.Christmas?

PS"Two weeks be sure"

and

"It will be ready when its ready !"

dont even bother!

PPS Yes Im fairly sure we will all be here gushing about how great the new sim is and how it was sooo worth the wait in X months/years!!!

Waldo.Pepper
07-01-2010, 04:04 AM
Not weeks, not months, but years. 2012 I reckon.

"So 2 years be sure."

No I am not kidding. 2012. If somebody starts a pool I want 2012.

trumper
07-01-2010, 05:14 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif Just in time for the end of the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon

Feathered_IV
07-01-2010, 05:58 AM
I can honestly say I never expected it to be finished this year anyway. I had hoped it would be out next year though. However it'll be touch and go I expect. Wait until November 2011, and lets see where we are from there.

On the bright side though, there is a certain chap on the banana lounge who's disappointment will be a source of great satisfaction to me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

ROXunreal
07-01-2010, 06:45 AM
I'm not in a hurry, IL-2 is a great game.

Worf101
07-01-2010, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by ROXunreal:
I'm not in a hurry, IL-2 is a great game.
IL2 "WAS" a great game. It's a modded mess now if you ask me. Sigh 2 years for sure.

Worf

VonTonar
07-01-2010, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by Worf101:
IL2 "WAS" a great game. It's a modded mess now if you ask me. Sigh 2 years for sure.

Worf

Aww I think it is still a great game as well with or without Mods. Mostly because of the pilots I get to fly with.

Romanator21
07-01-2010, 09:52 AM
Hasn't Oleg stated that it absolutely has to be released this year, or the funds will dry up?

I think the development updates are showing a game which is very nearly finished, and probably playable already.

jensenpark
07-01-2010, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by VonTonar:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Worf101:
IL2 "WAS" a great game. It's a modded mess now if you ask me. Sigh 2 years for sure.

Worf

Aww I think it is still a great game as well with or without Mods. Mostly because of the pilots I get to fly with. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow...nice Tonar. Who are these guys? Would they let any other Dogz join them?

staticline1
07-01-2010, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by Romanator21:
Hasn't Oleg stated that it absolutely has to be released this year, or the funds will dry up?

I think the development updates are showing a game which is very nearly finished, and probably playable already.

He made a similar quote in 2007 but he's still working at it. Personally wouldn't be surprised if SOW in fact was released this year. Keep in mind Oleg and team were working and tweaking IL2 about a week before its release so everyone don't get all depressed if there is no SOW this year, its only a PC sim.

thefruitbat
07-01-2010, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by jensenpark:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VonTonar:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Worf101:
IL2 "WAS" a great game. It's a modded mess now if you ask me. Sigh 2 years for sure.

Worf

Aww I think it is still a great game as well with or without Mods. Mostly because of the pilots I get to fly with. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow...nice Tonar. Who are these guys? Would they let any other Dogz join them? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Choctaw111
07-01-2010, 11:23 AM
When and where did we find out that it will not be released this year?
Even if it isn't, so what?
The only thing is that Oleg has already said that due to money, it must be finished this year.
I believe that Oleg is doing to do as much as he can with this until the money runs out, then release it.
How many of us hear can honesty say that in doing out own project, it is never really finished. There is always something else that could be done to it.
Considered how complex SoW seems to be, Oleg is going to continually polish it and make it better.

Mr_Zooly
07-01-2010, 11:26 AM
PC Gamer gives a rather vague Autumn, I also think that Il2 has some life left in it so at least my WW2 combat needs are still sated.

BaronUnderpants
07-01-2010, 02:24 PM
"Just one simple question: is the game still on the tables for a release this year?"


Oleg: "I hope we would not die doing it.... we should finish.
I personally working over the next sim theater.... doing the doc what should be there that to make it interesting for all...
And two variants of theaters... depending of possible calculated in future income.... I hope you understand me right."

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Monty_Thrud
07-01-2010, 02:53 PM
Trust me, be sure, it will be ready for Christmas...or i'm off to Russia to give Oleg a Wedgey. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

skarden
07-01-2010, 02:55 PM
Originally posted by BaronUnderpants:
"Just one simple question: is the game still on the tables for a release this year?"


Oleg: "I hope we would not die doing it.... we should finish.
I personally working over the next sim theater.... doing the doc what should be there that to make it interesting for all...
And two variants of theaters... depending of possible calculated in future income.... I hope you understand me right."

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Yep sounds like oleg speak for it will be out this year,if not very early next year,either way though like it's been said it's only a game so it's all good really http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

stalkervision
07-01-2010, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Monty_Thrud:
Trust me, be sure, it will be ready for Christmas...or i'm off to Russia to give Oleg a Wedgey. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

You will have to give him a lot more then that if you want it by Christmas. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

sabre365
07-01-2010, 04:15 PM
Not to be a pessimist but I truly hope that this is not the "duke nukem" of the simulation world. Not that this is really comparable since we have seen real development updates vs. what we've seen for the duke.

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-01-2010, 07:02 PM
Look at the last 4-5 weeks of development updates, has anyone else noticed the quality is increasing almost exponentially? Combine that with the fact that Oleg is notorious for keeping the best stuff for last, I'm not worried that it will be out this year.

WTE_Galway
07-01-2010, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by Worf101:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ROXunreal:
I'm not in a hurry, IL-2 is a great game.
IL2 "WAS" a great game. It's a modded mess now if you ask me. Sigh 2 years for sure.

Worf </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I be waiting for this mod ...

http://flyawaysimulation.com/media/images1/Image/uss-enterprise.jpg

that will show all those Spit 25 drivers, be sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

doogerie
07-02-2010, 01:00 AM
it must belmost done by now I noticed that in the new pics last week that the aircraft finaly have tha markings on them and I noticed a street in one of the screenshots that I saw I think I reconised one of the streets from when I was in uni so I think it will be this year rember there should be a new update today http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

KRISTORF
07-02-2010, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by doogerie:
it must belmost done by now I noticed that in the new pics last week that the aircraft finaly have tha markings on them and I noticed a street in one of the screenshots that I saw I think I reconised one of the streets from when I was in uni so I think it will be this year rember there should be a new update today http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

You were at uni with that spelling and grammer????? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

As for the release, its out whenever it hits the shlves and not before.

blairgowrie
07-02-2010, 05:20 AM
Go easy on doogerie Chris. He has some medical issues that make it very difficult for him.

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-02-2010, 06:24 AM
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachment.php?attachmentid=2707&d=1278064708

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachment.php?attachmentid=2706&d=1278064578

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachment.php?attachmentid=2710&d=1278064741

Oh yeah, BoB isn't making any progress at all is it.... /sarcasm

Uufflakke
07-02-2010, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by blairgowrie:
Go easy on doogerie Chris. He has some medical issues that make it very difficult for him.

As far as I know Doogerie is dyslectic as he mentioned a long time ago. He is in good company then as Albert Einstein was dyslectic also.


By the way Doogerie, there is a Friday update but as I don't have a login at 1C I always watch the latest stuff at Sukhoi forum:

<span class="ev_code_RED">Friday Update here. (http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?p=1433979#post1433979)</span>

Feathered_IV
07-02-2010, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:

Oh yeah, BoB isn't making any progress at all is it.... /sarcasm

Never suggested it isn't progressing. Don't reckon this year though. Oleg said in the above thread that the map still isn't complete. Last week he mentioned that French buildings haven't been modelled yet. Also that none of the bridges and manual adjustments have been done either.

Just one example, but without melodrama and based solely on impartial reasoning, I'd say not until late next year. And then only maybe.

RegRag1977
07-02-2010, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by ROXunreal:
I'm not in a hurry, IL-2 is a great game.

Agree...not to forget that the new computer to run BoB will be expansive: i need more time to save money. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Chivas
07-02-2010, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:

Oh yeah, BoB isn't making any progress at all is it.... /sarcasm

Never suggested it isn't progressing. Don't reckon this year though. Oleg said in the above thread that the map still isn't complete. Last week he mentioned that French buildings haven't been modelled yet. Also that none of the bridges and manual adjustments have been done either.

Just one example, but without melodrama and based solely on impartial reasoning, I'd say not until late next year. And then only maybe. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I definitely don't see this game being released this October. Is Christmas possible, maybe.

If Oleg releases SOW late next year, he should be given an award for financial wizardry. I personally doubt he will be able to finance a further year. He may be forced to release SOW early with less content, and hope sales are good enough to finance further work on the series. I sure would hate to lose such a dedicated developer.

trumper
07-03-2010, 02:45 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If Oleg wants to make any money or capture a bigger market he HAS to release it at Christmas and advertise it BIG TIME.
Anything else and it will join all the others on the shelf with no sales pitch gathering dust.
Aviation sims especially combat are a small specialist niche which needs to promoted and SOLD.
We all hope it will be good but we are all here already,it's the millions that have little or no interest you have to convince.

M_Gunz
07-03-2010, 03:33 AM
SOW needs more promotion? Word needs to be spread? LOL, what is IL2?

Chivas
07-03-2010, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by trumper:
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif If Oleg wants to make any money or capture a bigger market he HAS to release it at Christmas and advertise it BIG TIME.
Anything else and it will join all the others on the shelf with no sales pitch gathering dust.
Aviation sims especially combat are a small specialist niche which needs to promoted and SOLD.
We all hope it will be good but we are all here already,it's the millions that have little or no interest you have to convince.

I agree that some sort of advertising is very important, but only when release is eminent. Other people have be calling for immediate advertising since 2004, which would have be a colossal waste of money.

trumper
07-04-2010, 01:41 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gi***reed 100% ,it must be on the shelves by November and being plugged in all the aviation and computer mags by November to get people for the Christmas.If the recession hits any harder people will only be able to afford maybe 1 luxury and if it doesn't ring the bells at the right price it may be too late if people have already spent or decided.
It must be released and priced correctly to sell.
Demos and videos of ingame footage used as well.

Crazy_Goanna
07-08-2010, 11:26 PM
To make any serious money it must be also playable on Playstation and XBox as us PC fly/sim -gamers are only a small percentage of the market
On this forum are what 100 or so persons and with new players maybe 500 or 600, @100$ per game then work out the math and see where the market lies, surely with consoles

WTE_Galway
07-09-2010, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by Crazy_Goanna:
To make any serious money it must be also playable on Playstation and XBox as us PC fly/sim -gamers are only a small percentage of the market
On this forum are what 100 or so persons and with new players maybe 500 or 600, @100$ per game then work out the math and see where the market lies, surely with consoles

bad logic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

- the most popular console in the world is the Nintendo DS

- the 2nd biggest seller is the Wii

- the biggest selling PC game of all time is "The Sims"

- the biggest selling current console game is Wii Sport (well ok they give it away but still)

- the most popular long term game over succeeding generations of platforms is Mario kart


Following that logic SOW should feature Mario, allow you to arrange furniture in the pilots mess, jog around the airfield, and either be designed for use with a Wii mote or for use on a DS http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

doogerie
07-09-2010, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by Crazy_Goanna:
To make any serious money it must be also playable on Playstation and XBox as us PC fly/sim -gamers are only a small percentage of the market
On this forum are what 100 or so persons and with new players maybe 500 or 600, @100$ per game then work out the math and see where the market lies, surely with consoles

consoles have taken a cheapened lodes of games any take any FPS game or even a good RPG like Oblivion (that was not too bad on the pc poably becaus it was made for the PC)anyway consoles runied the FPS pleas don't try to take away and cheepen our sims Imean it would turn them in to golfide arcade games and really who want's that just look at hawkx.

KRISTORF
07-09-2010, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by Uufflakke:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by blairgowrie:
Go easy on doogerie Chris. He has some medical issues that make it very difficult for him.

As far as I know Doogerie is dyslectic as he mentioned a long time ago. He is in good company then as Albert Einstein was dyslectic also.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fair 'nuff, sorry mate

dbuff
07-12-2010, 01:01 PM
Maybe he's waiting for the 10 year anniversary of IL2?

Crazy_Goanna
07-13-2010, 06:29 PM
I dont use a console although we have a Wii and a DS here for the kids to use and the Wii fit is a good option, Zelda is a great game that only runs on Nintendo(first with a N64 now on the Wii.)
I dont like playing on consoles but I was just pointing out the fact that the PC flight simmer for WW2 is a small market and to make money surely the game can be downsized or whatever the process is to enable use on consoles.

BTW the logic is sound:
The DS platform does not have the capability to play top end games and is targetted at a different market which it dominates.
The Wii has its similar propriety software titles and has dominated the market through having players get up from their chairs and moving around to play the games, a feature that Xbox and Playstation have embraced recently. And, but no offence intended, I think you are being trite with your summary of the features that you envisage SOW should have.

I was making a point that it takes a lot of money and time to produce a ground breaking software game (series) and that the market is posibly limited by the target group of the IL2 simmers and newcomers who would measure in thousands, not tens of thousands that would make profitability greater (the COD series is payable in different forms on both PC, XBox and Playstation to make a comparison - targetted to different age groups and experience levels obviously).

I know it seems that Oleg produces his games for the love of the genre but there must be an economic feedback to make continuing development a worthwhile ongoing process. Sure we have had many free updates and have had to purchase upgraded scenarios but isn't that what happens with a captured market in a gaming community.
He has been involved with this series for over 10 years and has no equal in the genre, so I think that he deserves a greater reward, in economic terms, that just having us few players using his talents.

Playing on consoles really does suck but its a good way to bring people/gamers into the fuller experience that a PC offers.
Just my thoughts

WTE_Galway
07-13-2010, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by Crazy_Goanna:
I dont use a console although we have a Wii and a DS here for the kids to use and the Wii fit is a good option, Zelda is a great game that only runs on Nintendo(first with a N64 now on the Wii.)
I dont like playing on consoles but I was just pointing out the fact that the PC flight simmer for WW2 is a small market and to make money surely the game can be downsized or whatever the process is to enable use on consoles.

BTW the logic is sound:
The DS platform does not have the capability to play top end games and is targetted at a different market which it dominates.
The Wii has its similar propriety software titles and has dominated the market through having players get up from their chairs and moving around to play the games, a feature that Xbox and Playstation have embraced recently. And, but no offence intended, I think you are being trite with your summary of the features that you envisage SOW should have.

I was making a point that it takes a lot of money and time to produce a ground breaking software game (series) and that the market is posibly limited by the target group of the IL2 simmers and newcomers who would measure in thousands, not tens of thousands that would make profitability greater (the COD series is payable in different forms on both PC, XBox and Playstation to make a comparison - targetted to different age groups and experience levels obviously).

I know it seems that Oleg produces his games for the love of the genre but there must be an economic feedback to make continuing development a worthwhile ongoing process. Sure we have had many free updates and have had to purchase upgraded scenarios but isn't that what happens with a captured market in a gaming community.
He has been involved with this series for over 10 years and has no equal in the genre, so I think that he deserves a greater reward, in economic terms, that just having us few players using his talents.

Playing on consoles really does suck but its a good way to bring people/gamers into the fuller experience that a PC offers.
Just my thoughts



So you haven't seen all the debate about the Arcade version of IL2 called "Birds of Prey" which has been available on XBox and PS2 for some time and is in Beta for PC ?



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koivis
07-17-2010, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by Crazy_Goanna:
I was making a point that it takes a lot of money and time to produce a ground breaking software game (series) and that the market is posibly limited by the target group of the IL2 simmers and newcomers who would measure in thousands, not tens of thousands that would make profitability greater (the COD series is payable in different forms on both PC, XBox and Playstation to make a comparison - targetted to different age groups and experience levels obviously).

Ehh... "not tens of thousands"? You really think that there are that few people in the world who would buy BoB:SoW? Il-2 Sturmovik and the following titles (FB, AEP, PF) have sold 650000 units in Russia, and another 600000 worldwide, and the information is from official Ubi site, from 2004.

link: http://il2-sturmovik.de.ubi.com/en/history.php

I would say that is pretty damn good for a simulation, and "some" may have been sold after 2004 too... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

M_Gunz
07-17-2010, 08:50 PM
Maybe the hardware requirements to run SOW have narrowed that number just a bit?

WTE_Galway
07-17-2010, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by M_Gunz:
Maybe the hardware requirements to run SOW have narrowed that number just a bit?

I had the impression that a current middling to lowish end system .. say an i5 750 with a GTS 250 card and 2Gb ram would run SOW fine.

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-19-2010, 03:59 PM
Was just pointed to this on the banana forum:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthre...opics/3049614/5.html (http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3049614/5.html)

Source for the above:
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/sho...php?t=52383&page=234 (http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=52383&page=234)

Translated by google it reads:


Message from = M = ZooM Offline
Oleg today at GDC was more like a guest and because of prof. interest, not at work. Awarded the winners of the tournament "Wings of Victory", and then surreptitiously dumped ..... but the mother virpilov not so easy to escape-OM was caught in the hall and led to the side, where he was surrounded on all sides and began to overwhelm issues. It was interesting.
At issue in the forehead, when Bob? A forehead-when we do Clear plans for this year (he spoke confidently, as though he had just played in betku ), But perhaps because of the large number of games on the Island will take at the beginning of autumn 2011, so as not to lose profit (but that's not his whim).

Message from Oleg Medoks / Oleg Maddox
Yet not so.
Issued in 2010. That is the plan.
And I would like to add a few more in the game and release in early 2011.
But it is unlikely that happen.

WTE_Galway
07-19-2010, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
Was just pointed to this on the banana forum:

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthre...opics/3049614/5.html (http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3049614/5.html)

Source for the above:
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/sho...php?t=52383&page=234 (http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=52383&page=234)

Translated by google it reads:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
Message from = M = ZooM Offline
Oleg today at GDC was more like a guest and because of prof. interest, not at work. Awarded the winners of the tournament "Wings of Victory", and then surreptitiously dumped ..... but the mother virpilov not so easy to escape-OM was caught in the hall and led to the side, where he was surrounded on all sides and began to overwhelm issues. It was interesting.
At issue in the forehead, when Bob? A forehead-when we do Clear plans for this year (he spoke confidently, as though he had just played in betku ), But perhaps because of the large number of games on the Island will take at the beginning of autumn 2011, so as not to lose profit (but that's not his whim).

Message from Oleg Medoks / Oleg Maddox
Yet not so.
Issued in 2010. That is the plan.
And I would like to add a few more in the game and release in early 2011.
But it is unlikely that happen. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Yeah I had noticed that.

Sounds like the Publishers are getting antsy about all the online heckling and worried SOW will turn into another Starcraft II (4 years and $100,000,000 dev cost and not yet released) or Duke Nukum Forever (in Development since 1997).

Personally I think Oleg should have been allowed to release the game when HE thought it was ready rather than when the accountants said.

Releasing the game will not get rid of the hecklers of course, they will just switch to complaining about the features that missed the 2010 release or whine that they cant get more than basic features without destroying frame rates on their 5 year old PC http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Billy_DeLyon
07-20-2010, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
Releasing the game will not get rid of the hecklers of course, they will just switch to complaining about the features that missed the 2010 release

See: Flight, Rise of.

I for one was happy to put down my hard-earned $$ for ROF and be able to play what some called a "paid beta." The alternative was to sit around waiting while yet more and more rumors flew and mysterious rumblings occasionally emanated from behind a curtain in a warehouse in Moscow. Sure Neoqb released a product that was sparse in the details and rough around the edges, and the internet being what it is there were some who absolutely eviscerated them for it. Neoqb could have followed another model, not releasing in until it's "complete," but if they delayed release until it was good enough to satisfy everyone in our little world we would still be waiting. This way it's out, they got a cash flow, & have continuously improved their product, and meanwhile we have been flying it for over a year now. It was worth every penny on the day it was released IMHO and it has been nothing but fun & exciting to be a part of its evolution.

My point is, if Oleg & Co have to release SOW early in order to generate some cash flow so they can continue development, and then we get a product that works but is really a WIP that grows with (say) monthly patches (like ROF), then I say GREAT (as long as development does continue). That way we get to start playing it earlier, and share in the excitement of getting in early and watching it grow. Which beats the heck out of waiting, watching for a tiny puff of smoke to waft from behind a tall stone wall, then arguing about what it means until someone spots another one.

That is what we are doing right now.

Feathered_IV
07-20-2010, 05:11 AM
But perhaps because of the large number of games on the Island will take at the beginning of autumn 2011, so as not to lose profit (but that's not his whim).

Sounds ike there is pressure on Oleg to delay release to let other 1c's soon to be released titles get their fair share. He'd rather not though.

AndyJWest
07-20-2010, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by Feathered_IV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">But perhaps because of the large number of games on the Island will take at the beginning of autumn 2011, so as not to lose profit (but that's not his whim).

Sounds ike there is pressure on Oleg to delay release to let other 1c's soon to be released titles get their fair share. He'd rather not though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'd say it sounds like we need a Russian speaker to provide a better translation. Making statements about what Oleg said based on Google Translate seems fairly pointless. Still, it keeps the rumour-mill turning...

M_Gunz
07-20-2010, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by WTE_Galway:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by M_Gunz:
Maybe the hardware requirements to run SOW have narrowed that number just a bit?

I had the impression that a current middling to lowish end system .. say an i5 750 with a GTS 250 card and 2Gb ram would run SOW fine. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A 4-core at 2.6Gz. I am running a museum piece then, Sempron 2.6 with AGP 7600 GS and 2G RAM. How many have like me?

MD_Titus
07-20-2010, 03:54 PM
thing is, that's not a lowish to middling set up. it's not bleeding edge, but still a bloody good computer. i always understood that the criteria was being able to play il2 at full settings and get high framerates. you need less than ^ that to achieve that standard.

japinard
07-22-2010, 04:58 PM
Someone please tell me UBIsoft isn't the publisher are they? I want to play this when I'm in the hospital or at the cottage (no Internet access). Otherwise I will learn Russian and buy it directly from 1C.

Urufu_Shinjiro
07-22-2010, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by japinard:
Someone please tell me UBIsoft isn't the publisher are they? I want to play this when I'm in the hospital or at the cottage (no Internet access). Otherwise I will learn Russian and buy it directly from 1C.

As far as anyone knows the answer is no, Ubi has nothing to do with it, this is not a confirmed fact though and we still don't know who the publisher is so...

Chivas
07-22-2010, 06:46 PM
It appears Ubisoft in no longer involved but this has never been confirmed in a statement from Ubisoft or Oleg.

mhuxt
07-22-2010, 08:20 PM
My impression is that simmers, like many adults, can handle paying for something that is "most of the way there", if they are told, honestly, "it's most of the way there."

What they can't handle is the WWIIOL "the game is finished" (followed by a 250 MB download and it still don't work) model.

Anyway, in my family, every day was Battle of Britain day.

<S>

Jaws2002
07-23-2010, 01:18 PM
I have no problem buying few copies of an "almost finished" product, as long as it helps the game move forward.

M_Gunz
07-23-2010, 03:21 PM
Possibly to wonder if Maddox Games or even 1C has public stock traded on some market?

knightflyte
07-23-2010, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by japinard:
Someone please tell me UBIsoft isn't the publisher are they? I want to play this when I'm in the hospital or at the cottage (no Internet access). Otherwise I will learn Russian and buy it directly from 1C.

As far as anyone knows the answer is no, Ubi has nothing to do with it, this is not a confirmed fact though and we still don't know who the publisher is so... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Something in the back of my head says 777 Studios might be the N.A. publisher. I have no concrete evidence to back it up, but Jason's publishing of RoF and the recent acquisition of RoF leads me to think he's capable. I'd certainly want someone who is a SIM enthusiast involved.

Maybe I'm wishing on a falling star?

MV.Panda
07-31-2010, 12:14 AM
???? ??????? ??? ?? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ? ??-?? ????. ????????, ? ?? ?? ??????. ???????? ???????? ??????? "?????? ??????", ????? ???? ??? ????? ??????.....?? ?? ??????? ???????? ??? ?????? ?? ????- ?? ??? ???????? ? ?????, ??????? ? ????????, ??? ??? ???????? ?? ???? ?????? ? ????? ?????????? ?????????. ???? ?????????.
?? ?????? ? ???- ????? ???? ????? ? ???- ????? ??????? ?????? ????? ?? ???? ??? (??????? ????????, ??? ????? ?????? ??? ? ????? ?????), ?? ???????? ??-?? ???????? ???-?? ??? ?? ????? ????????? ?? ?????? 2011, ???? ?? ???????? ??????? (?? ??? ??? ?? ??? ???????).

Oleg was here today, at ???, as a guest and due to professional interest rather than because of work. He awarded the winners of the "Wings of Victory" tournament;in the following commotion he murked...but it isn't so easy to get away from the fans* - Oleg Maddox was caught in the hallway and taken aside where he was surrounded and drowned with questions. It was interesting.

To the question on everyone's mind** - When (is) BOB (going to be released)? He answered bluntly** - when we finish [alt-when we make it]. Definite plans for (release) this year {he spoke sure of himself, as if he had just played the beta}, but it is possible due to the amount of games being released this fall that it will be carried over into the start of 2011, hopefully income will not be lost (because of this) {that is not for him to worry about}

*Colloquial expression translated for meaning
**Colloquial expression translated for meaning, as one might notice its context sensitive. TBH its less of a colloquialism and more of a thing to not be translated literally
KEY
( ) inserted for flow, not in source
[alt ] alternate translation
{ } comments of the original author, strictly opinion

Native Russian here, hopefully this translation is more clear.

<span class="ev_code_RED">Update</span>
Oleg himself posted a few posts down in the forums with the following

??? ?? ?? ???.
??????? ? 2010. ????? ????.
? ? ?? ????? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? ???? ? ????????? ? ?????? 2011.
?? ??? ???? ????????, ??? ?????????.
It is so.
(it) comes out in 2010. Such is the plan.
While, I would want to add more to the game and release it in the beginning of 2011.
However, it is unlikely that this would happen.

So there you have it.

Later on in the thread OM talks about how much of a burden IL2 was on the team and how he will not be adopting the same approach to developing it one pack at a time. Also he plans to release the code so third party devs can light the team's load. (games are becoming more labor intensive to make) (source: http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/sho...12854&postcount=5853 (http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showpost.php?p=1412854&postcount=5853) )
Further he talks about how the budget of the game is actually coming in part from IL2 but mostly from the dudes here: http://www.minsvyaz.ru/
Finally he posts a picture of the Russian PRESIDENT playing the game: http://news.kremlin.ru/media/e...663cc00b47079f8.jpeg (http://news.kremlin.ru/media/events/photos/big/41d2f663cc00b47079f8.jpeg)

doogerie
07-31-2010, 02:55 AM
The new update seems to hint that it is almost ready

Trinity_Jay
07-31-2010, 09:21 AM
S!

It was only about four months ago when I supplied Oleg with maps of every BoB airfield...

Jay

baronWastelan
07-31-2010, 10:09 AM
EDITED

Chivas
07-31-2010, 11:44 AM
Originally posted by Trinity_Jay:
S!

It was only about four months ago when I supplied Oleg with maps of every BoB airfield...

Jay

I'm sure Oleg had maps of most or all BOB airfield many years ago. Hopefully your contribution will help Oleg fine tune what he already has.

~Salute~
Chivas

Trinity_Jay
07-31-2010, 11:50 AM
S!

He said he didn't have them so I mailed them all over. It was good timing as the time I was editing two books on the Battle of Britain and one on the Supermarine Spitfire. I also sent over some interesting images of the Spitfire and Hurricane in the field.

Jay

Trinity_Jay
07-31-2010, 11:52 AM
baronWastelan

Why the post?

Jay