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Skunk_438RCAF
01-03-2008, 08:26 AM
They managed to produce another marvel of technology. One that actually inexplicably refuses to work properly after only 9 months of use. They no longer find their center, and saitek's wonderfully useless software doesnt allow you to do anything more than assign deadband, and has no calibration feature.

I'm talking about their pro POS rudder pedals. I was actually happy to have pedals for once, but now, I have no choice but to throw these away to the great saitek graveyard of similar ill fated plastic pieces of shat that they call controllers.

I love you Saitek, now I have no choice but to buy CH Pro nutsqueezers thanks to you.

Bearcat99
01-03-2008, 08:28 AM
Before you write them off you should contact Saitek.. their support is very good.. I have had my pedals for over a year now with no issues... If it ias under 9 months then they are still under warranty..

Skunk_438RCAF
01-03-2008, 08:32 AM
Their support has to be good, basically they have no choice if you consider that so many of their products fail after such a short period of time.

I'll contact them, but its just a big blow since I dont have any other controllers with rudder control. How the heck am I supposed to fly this sim now?

Sorry BC, just needed to vent.

R_Target
01-03-2008, 08:37 AM
I love the X52 throttle, but on anything that requires centering, I've never trusted Saitek.

JG52Uther
01-03-2008, 08:49 AM
Well if they are 9 months old,you should have between 3-15 months warranty left.Get them replaced,then sell the new set and buy CH.My X45 stick has just gone south again,within a few months of fitting new pots (my Logitech attack3 is more reliable!) so,instead of the X52 I was planning to get,it will be CH for me next,to match my CH pedals.
I have seen the Saitek pedals down to 66 in the UK now (over 30% off) I wonder why?

TgD Thunderbolt56
01-03-2008, 08:58 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

BrotherVoodoo
01-03-2008, 09:19 AM
have pedals for once, but now, I have no choice but to throw these away to the great saitek graveyard of similar ill fated plastic pieces of shat that they call controllers.

My Saitek Pro Pedals also broke after only 6 months. They sent me replacement parts but I have not had the time or desire to fix them. Back to the trusty CH Pro Pedals for me. 6 years old and still working perfectly. It's too bad about the Saitek quality, there stuff looks really nice. I just wish it would hold up.

SeaFireLIV
01-03-2008, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by Skunk_438RCAF:


I love you Saitek, now I have no choice but to buy CH Pro nutsqueezers thanks to you.

`nutsqueezers`. lol. They`re not that bad!

LEBillfish
01-03-2008, 09:33 AM
Not a fan of Saitek, however might I suggest that you try calibrating via my computer>control panel>game controllers in windows.

Also, a while back I posted "profile clear" software put out by logitech yet works on all controllers and a description of how to use it.

You'll most likely find unplugging the unit, clearing your profile, rebooting and then replugging in will fix you right up.

Lastly, since windows has it's own game controller software built in, I "believe" it sometimes conflicts with product supplied....To that end I grew tired of fighting it, and once I stopped using the product supplied uninstalling it, things have been much better...(and was not using any of the features anywho, so was pointless).

crucislancer
01-03-2008, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by SeaFireLIV:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Skunk_438RCAF:


I love you Saitek, now I have no choice but to buy CH Pro nutsqueezers thanks to you.

`nutsqueezers`. lol. They`re not that bad! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I had a set of CH Pedals back in the late 90's. Nutsqeezers just about covers it. They really should space them out a bit more. Great pedals, though. I might pick up a set if I can save up enough money, but it's far down the list right now.

As far as Saitek goes, I kinda wish I had done a bit of reseach on their reliability before buying the X52. I had to exchange mine for a new set after the calibration issues I was having were driving me nuts. So far so good with the new set. I really like the functionality, but they need to work on their reliability.

Skunk_438RCAF
01-03-2008, 10:26 AM
Well I'm more than happy to inform you that this problem has been fixed. I merely kicked them and they recentered. Weird. Anyway, I think I will get me a pair of CH and keep these as backup. Then again with CH do you really need a backup?

Choctaw111
01-03-2008, 10:30 AM
CH is the way, brother http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

knightflyte
01-03-2008, 10:52 AM
Can you post a video on You Tube showing where you're displaying exactly what you think of Saitek's peddles? Hmmmmmmmm?

Chris0382
01-03-2008, 11:20 AM
You are going to find it both ways and depends what comes off the assembly line. There are people that have problems with CH gear and not Seitek and vis versa. With mass production today you just have to hope it was made right.

Every Motherboard I reviewd had DOA's as complaints and the same for many computer parts Ive researched. Thats why the warranty is of most importance.

CH Prods, although not perfect (as I have had problems with my Comb, Stick.), is the best IMO and if its not the best they will fix it for you for 2 years after purchase.

badaboom.1
01-03-2008, 12:11 PM
Hello Skunk! Not sure if you are having the same problem as me[and many others]I had mine about 6 months before a Lock-up problem started,in short if you apply extreme rudder[left or right] the peddel physically lock in one spot without releasing!!!!I had to unscrew the 1,000,000 screws that hold the base and pop it back on track,after 1 flight with no problems it happened again....then again and again!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif

So I went to the Saitek support and found out that some peddels are deffective and require a speacial part.[you can read about it here]
http://www.saitekforum.com/showthread.php?t=12529

Product support........as far as I'm concerned it's non existant!!!!I've e-mailed them 3 times trying to get the part to fix my $180.00 deffective peddels,I've waited for over 2 months for any action!!!I get excuses such as....."oh a a a that guys been off lately"

Saitek has seen the last of my hard earned cash!!!!!

leitmotiv
01-03-2008, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by Choctaw111:
CH is the way, brother http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

You said it. My CH pedals are the one no anxiety, no brainer, no screw-up ancillary to my sim system.

roybaty
01-03-2008, 01:35 PM
My cougar HOTAS died after 2.5 years of service http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif and seeing as I don't play sims too much of late (maybe 2-3 hour a week at most) I got an x52 as a stop-gap. If/When Bob,Blackshark, or jet Thunder are released I'll probably get a CH HOTAS.

I've had a pair of CH "nutsqueezers" going on 6 years with no real issues, aside from some "discomfort" on the longer simming sessions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

VMF-214_HaVoK
01-03-2008, 01:51 PM
Just buy CH Products and all your troubles fade away...be sure.

S!

crucislancer
01-03-2008, 02:06 PM
I know I'd like to pick up some CH stuff again, but I can't afford it. I used to have the pedals, throttle, and F16 stick back in the late 90's, when I had lot's of money to burn, hooked up to one of those speed-adjustable Thrustmaster game cards. It seems like they were a lot less expensive then, now it's something like $150 for each piece.

But, despite Saitek's reliability issues, they seem to have a great stick with the X52. Much better then my Logitech Wingman.

T_O_A_D
01-03-2008, 04:02 PM
I have CH and they have been flawless, short the solid core wires breaking inside, at the standoffs.

I rewired them with woven wire, I pinched out of an old keyboard chord.

They lasted about 2 years before I was required to fix them.

They are easily 5 years old now, my X-45 throttle still works perfectly and it is older than the pedals. I don't use the stick, for anything more than a button bay though. I fly with a MFFB.

The-Pizza-Man
01-03-2008, 04:04 PM
Just to show not everything with Saitek is shock horror, my X-45 is still going strong, had it since just before they released the X-52.

Chivas
01-04-2008, 12:39 PM
I found the Saitek Aviator to be decent stick, and have one as a backup for my MSFF2. I can't say how long it will last but its precise and smooth. My Saitek Pro rudder pedals are still working properly....but I do agree that the Saitek rudder toe brake programming is very unituitive.

Intel 6850 @3.8gig
4gigs of Corsair DDR2-1066 PC 8500
Nvidia 7900GTX
Multisync FP2141SB
MSFF2
Cougar Throttle
Saitek Pro Rudder pedals
Voice Activation Control
backups...Saitek Aviator, CH Fighterstick, Cougar joystick
Garbaged...X52

GAU-8
01-04-2008, 09:53 PM
my x52 has worked fins since day one.

my ch "nutsqueeezers" worked for about 6 months. i hate how close they are, and i hate how they dont work..or work on thier own..randomly

i am CH products "ONLY" unhappy customer. verified :P

TX-Gunslinger
01-04-2008, 11:14 PM
Thanks for the info badaboom.1 !

I've had the CH pedals for over 4 years now. I always wanted wider pedals, even though I'm now so used to the narrow pedals I don't even notice anymore. Like and old pair of comfortable shoes.

Same exact experience as you had with the Saitek pedals - left rudder jammed to stops.

Did not know that a fix existed. Thanks again.

S~

Gunny

TX-Gunslinger
01-04-2008, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by roybaty:
My cougar HOTAS died after 2.5 years of service http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif and seeing as I don't play sims too much of late (maybe 2-3 hour a week at most) I got an x52 as a stop-gap. If/When Bob,Blackshark, or jet Thunder are released I'll probably get a CH HOTAS.

I've had a pair of CH "nutsqueezers" going on 6 years with no real issues, aside from some "discomfort" on the longer simming sessions http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif.

If you still have the Cougar, I'd be more than happy to buy it from you for a fair price. PM me if you are interested.

Thanks

Gunny

SeaFireLIV
01-05-2008, 05:23 AM
Originally posted by GAU-8:
my x52 has worked fins since day one.

my ch "nutsqueeezers" worked for about 6 months. i hate how close they are, and i hate how they dont work..or work on thier own..randomly

i am CH products "ONLY" unhappy customer. verified :P

Strange, my Ch pedals have worked fine from day 1 (about a year and a half now) with absolutely no problems. Maybe you have a faulty copy?

badaboom.1
01-05-2008, 06:08 AM
Originally posted by TX-Gunslinger:
Thanks for the info badaboom.1 !

I've had the CH pedals for over 4 years now. I always wanted wider pedals, even though I'm now so used to the narrow pedals I don't even notice anymore. Like and old pair of comfortable shoes.

Same exact experience as you had with the Saitek pedals - left rudder jammed to stops.

Did not know that a fix existed. Thanks again.

S~

Gunny

You are Welcome TX-Gunslinger,I hope you have better luck with Saitek support than I have,I have figured out a way to use my deffective peddels while waiting for my part to arrive[if ever]
You need to keep both feet flat on the peddels and horizontal with the ground,apply even preasure downword,I have found they are less likely to jam ,but it makes the toe brake useless because in this position you are constantly applying brake.

DuxCorvan
01-05-2008, 06:15 AM
I am very satisfied with my Saitek Cyborg Evo Force joystick, granted I had used Logitech cr*p before... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_razz.gif

I just can't do without FFB now.

knightflyte
01-05-2008, 06:54 AM
Compared to my last girlfriend the CH peddles act more like a massage.

Sturm_Williger
01-05-2008, 07:12 AM
I've had an X45 for coming up to 4 years now and although I replaced 1 pot ( sent to me free by Saitek ), it's still working perfectly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif ( in fact, I have nightmares about it quitting because I dislike the X52 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif ).

My pedals are CH and also work fine after 2 and a half years.

Anyone in the UK selling a good semi-used X45, I'm interested in getting a spare just in case... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Luck of the draw methinks.

Schwarz.13
01-07-2008, 06:54 AM
Well, after weeks and weeks of deliberating over which pedals to buy and whether they would be worth it or not - i finally ordered a set...
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...CH Pro!

90 from Flightstore ATM (& free next-day delivery) - that works out only 10 or so more than Saiteks. The Saiteks maybe more comfortable but for that sort of money i want something that will last (and my Evo Force was a piece of sh*t anyway)!

badaboom.1
01-07-2008, 07:34 AM
Schwarz.13,Good choice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifwhat did they set you back?[if I may ask]

Flying_Nutcase
01-07-2008, 07:46 AM
Simped = #1 rudder pedals.

BrotherVoodoo
01-07-2008, 09:11 AM
...CH Pro!

Excellent choice sir.

SeaFireLIV
01-07-2008, 09:13 AM
Good choice.

JG52Uther
01-07-2008, 09:16 AM
Yes love my CH pedals! Good price too.

Schwarz.13
01-07-2008, 09:18 AM
Originally posted by badaboom.1:
Schwarz.13,Good choice http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gifwhat did they set you back?[if I may ask]


Originally posted by Schwarz.13:
90 from Flightstore ATM (& free next-day delivery)

link (http://www.flightstore.co.uk/ch_pro_rudder_pedals_usb.pilot.supplies/use.id.5.item_id.285.dept.133.dept_l2.249.dept_l3. 0/) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Zoom2136
01-07-2008, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Skunk_438RCAF:
Well I'm more than happy to inform you that this problem has been fixed. I merely kicked them and they recentered. Weird. Anyway, I think I will get me a pair of CH and keep these as backup. Then again with CH do you really need a backup?

YEP... my CH pro peddals right toe brake just died over the holidays... they were not even 2 year old...

A backup is a good thing to have...

I usually by an extendend warranty... thats what I do with my X-52's (I've got 2)... I usually return one every 4-6 months when it start to show signs of wear... more of a preventive thing than actually replacing a completly dead stick...

Crash_Moses
01-07-2008, 11:50 AM
Another plug for CH. I've had mine for four years and they still work splendiferousousously.

If you still find the CH pedals too narrow you might try a solution similar to the pics below. Can't remember where I snagged 'em but it must've been somewhere around here. I never stray far.

Try the hardware modding thread that pops up occasionally. I couldn't find it so maybe it's defunct but you should be able to find something...(rummage...clank!...rummage...nope, not in there...[goes down steps]...Ow!...nope, not there either...Clank![sound of spinning pot lid]...nope...[voice fades]...)


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Crash_Moses/peds.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Crash_Moses/pedals.jpg

SeaFireLIV
01-07-2008, 12:00 PM
Hey that`s pretty good. Hmm, the default pedals do seem a little ... restrictive now... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/bigtears.gif