PDA

View Full Version : aaargh, cheating nobheads!



XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:10 PM
This cheating thing reeeally makes me mad!

I chased some nobhead (while playing online), then suddenly, his aircraft becomes 4 times faster and suddenly he's gone...

What the hell do they think they are? Well, atleast they do NOT have any honour!

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:10 PM
This cheating thing reeeally makes me mad!

I chased some nobhead (while playing online), then suddenly, his aircraft becomes 4 times faster and suddenly he's gone...

What the hell do they think they are? Well, atleast they do NOT have any honour!

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:12 PM
This sounds very much like a case of lag warp.
It's not cheating.

Buzz_25th
10-19-2003, 09:13 PM
2 hours ago you said you were buying the game again tomorrow. How did you just play online?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
25th_Buzz
<center>
http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/foto1/anderson3.jpg

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:23 PM
It's simple lag. Annoying but happens, quit yer' whining.

- - - - - - - - - - - - -
Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:31 PM
Buzz_25th wrote:
- 2 hours ago you said you were buying the game again
- tomorrow. How did you just play online?

Maybe he encountered lag/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

rgds

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:31 PM
Yet another well researched post /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

<p align="center">
<A HREF="http://www.mudmovers.com/Sims/FB/il2_fb.htm" TARGET=_blank>
http://mudmovers.com/temp/snoopysig1.jpg</A>
<A HREF="http://mudmovers.com/sturmovik_101/FAQ.htm" TARGET=_blank>
Unofficial IL-2 Community FAQ</font></A>
Hunter82's Tech Pages (http://mudmovers.com/tech/tech_pages.htm)
Forgotten Battles Reality Check (http://www.simhq.com/_air/air_065a.html)
</font>

XyZspineZyX
10-19-2003, 09:42 PM
Buzz_25th wrote:
- 2 hours ago you said you were buying the game again
- tomorrow. How did you just play online?
-
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- 25th_Buzz
- <center>
<img
- src="http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/foto1/anderson3
- .jpg"> -

Buzz u crack me up man!

http://www.x-plane.org/users/12thiaptbone/viper.jpg
47|FC

Buzz_25th
10-19-2003, 09:44 PM
Ball buster arn't I?.../i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
25th_Buzz
<center>
http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/foto1/anderson3.jpg

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 12:01 AM
The first time he bought it the guy was right in of front him and he was about to fire. However... he had to get offline and exit the game for one reason or another. In the meantime he returned the game. He then decided to buy it again and get back into the server to finish the job. Well, to his astonishment, the plane had flown away.

Now that is lag.



http://www.mdarted.org/SIG2.jpg

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 12:57 AM
For the last time...THERE ARE NO CHEATS FOR IL2 or FB. Not every gaming communtiy feels it needs cheats nor does it desire to try and create any.
S~
47|FC

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 01:23 AM
lag is a big problem for dial up losers...ehem..users.

http://home.comcast.net/~ick_352nd/

http://home.comcast.net/~ick_352nd/aceshigh.jpg

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 02:58 PM
... I posted this topic AFTER my cd got broken.

Besides, I recently bought IL-2 - once again /i/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Anyway, it also stood that "cheating was detected", and I DO see the difference between lag-warp and that cheat, so if it really was a lag-warp, I offcourse wouldn't have posted this

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 03:28 PM
-
- Anyway, it also stood that "cheating was detected",
- and I DO see the difference between lag-warp and
- that cheat, so if it really was a lag-warp, I
- offcourse wouldn't have posted this
-
-

"cheating is detected" is cause by lag.

Although i still think a few people may lag on purpose. I dont think there are any real cheats for the game.

XyZspineZyX
10-20-2003, 04:45 PM
Cheating is detected is a GIANT misnomer. Essentially the game is stating that a mismatch has occured between the data on the server and the data on your machine. The game tries to keep the two consistent and runs algorithms to try and anticipate what happens next so that you see as little warping as possible. However, if you, or the server (or anything in between) spikes and you loose some data or its late in arriving then there is a mismatch.

The way that cheating works in the basics is that a mismatch is intentionally created. Since there are no known cheats for FB, we can assume that 99% of the time its a lag issue. And it almost always is. On your computer you were still following you...then there is a spike (watch the lag o meter in the top right) and then on your machine suddenly he zooms up to another alt. On his machine, he pulled up and gained some altitude in the meantime and is wondering why you are still on the deck. Its quite obvious and its definately not cheating...the lag spike, the ping time change, and resulting warping are all indicative of lag...not anything malicious.

Go play Halo online, or Quake, or anything a'tall and you'll notice this stuff happens there. Some of these games do have cheating...but it usually manifests itself in a much different way (i.e. the guy has a gun that fires unlimited shots, each one being an instant kill, can run super fast, and cannot be killed for instance).

http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/icefire/icefire_tempest.jpg
"Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few." - Winston Churchill