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Sokole_oko
07-21-2005, 03:05 AM
Are there such commands in SH3? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Since most of u-boat crews didn't survived till the end of war, I try to do the trick. I know that odds are againts me, but as far as summer 1941 I've managed it quite well. Playing with 72% realism (with auto map updates and automatic TDC calculations).

Make no mistakes: I play agressively, I attack even small boats like Flower Corvettes. I guess I'm quite lucky, because my boat was only once damaged, after... collision with a norwegian merchant off Bergen. Quite funny story, afterall - remember to light up your xenons in dark, stormy and foggy night http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But what happens if my boat be so badly damaged, that I cannot return to base? Do I have to make "all hands lost" or can I rescue at least some my man by surface and abandon ship? F...ck the fuhere, we all have families http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I'm rather familiar with SH3 interface, but I didn't found that command yet. Any ideas?

Maybe someone had been in such critical situation?

Sokole_oko (Hawkeye)
U-49, 15 patrols, 360k

twistedpretzel
07-21-2005, 03:08 AM
If you manage to escape you must be able to make it home, if you dont manage to escape wahtevers attacking you, due to damage, well, then i guess you will be destroyed.

KRlSTOFF
07-21-2005, 03:18 AM
Hmm...Death or abandon ship....Yeah...I think I'd take the option where if I had to abandon the boat and be taken prisoner....I'd spend the rest of my WWII days in some remote POW camp in Western Nebraska, or Texas...On a work crew, tilling up some local farmers beat field. lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Sokole_oko
07-21-2005, 03:29 AM
twistedpretzel:

What if I got heavili depth charged and I decide to surface and wave with white flag? I sound reasanable to me. And you?

Another situation. Going deep with dead engines (beyound repair). The hunter give up their track and leave the scene. Blow balast and my boat is siting duck on the water. Do I have to wait till another DD find and finish me or can I scuttle the ship and try luck with dinghys or whatever was aboard u-boat.

AFAIR in SH1 you could abandon ship.

Praetorian27
07-21-2005, 07:53 AM
I completely agree. In all the U-boat books I have read, they tell constantly about being "forced to the surface because of damage." When we blow ballast because of flooding, there should be an option to abandon ship. Your career would be at an end, either you were fired upon, drowned or were taken prisoner. The computer should also tell you how many of your crew survived. This would be an easy option to make in the game and would make it more interesting.

rm_1944
07-21-2005, 08:45 AM
Another method of surrender besides waving the white flag was to turn the deck gun towards the conning tower. Similar to a plane lowering it's gear to surrender. And visually much easier to spot than a flag.

GT182
07-21-2005, 08:53 AM
Being able to surrender would have been a great option in game. Why it was never in a patch is beyond me. I guess no one really thought it that important to request it. So, I don't think we'll see that anytime soon and we'll have to RTB or go down with our boat.

hopkins32
07-21-2005, 08:20 PM
In the game files there is a ChE_K_Abandon_ship sound file perhaps for moders or for perhaps new patches if needed.

maxpower2
07-22-2005, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by Sokole_oko:
twistedpretzel:

What if I got heavili depth charged and I decide to surface and wave with white flag? I sound reasanable to me. And you?

Another situation. Going deep with dead engines (beyound repair). The hunter give up their track and leave the scene. Blow balast and my boat is siting duck on the water. Do I have to wait till another DD find and finish me or can I scuttle the ship and try luck with dinghys or whatever was aboard u-boat.

AFAIR in SH1 you could abandon ship.

in that case you could probably just esc out and return to base.

Sokole_oko
07-22-2005, 01:07 AM
Maxpower2: it's no option for me!!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

Kpt_Zig
07-22-2005, 04:50 AM
A surrender/abandon ship feature has been repeatedly requested, as well as a proper death sequence. All requests were totally ignored.

FDNYFAN
07-22-2005, 06:34 AM
Surrendering isn't an option,we go down fighting.

jcurrens
07-22-2005, 07:29 AM
SURRENDER IS NOT AN OPTION!

ShinyBaldy
07-22-2005, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by KRlSTOFF:
Hmm...Death or abandon ship....Yeah...I think I'd take the option where if I had to abandon the boat and be taken prisoner....I'd spend the rest of my WWII days in some remote POW camp in Western Nebraska, or Texas...On a work crew, tilling up some local farmers beat field. lol http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

and you'll be treated better in certain places better than uniformed african americans!!!!

Budokan
07-22-2005, 02:16 PM
I would like these options, too. Oh, and a better death screen. The one we have now is more like a slap in the face that screams: "Loser! Even your family in Germany will be liquidated for your incompetence!"

Actually, come to think of it, the death screen we have now isn't even that good....

GT182
07-22-2005, 03:53 PM
I'd say surrender is a part of the realism that goes with SHIII. A few Uboats surrendered during WWII. Whether they wanted to or not. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

stinkhammer6
07-22-2005, 09:08 PM
There was an excellent sim out a while back called European Air War, and if you had to bail out you fought the plane the best you could to get to the ocean so you could be saved by rescue boats, if you bailed out over enemy land you were captured. This method wouldnt hurt SH3 one bit, they could just tack on like a month or so for recovery time and getting you into a new tub.

Perdu79
07-23-2005, 03:28 AM
"order Abandon_ship" is present in CH.dat and CH2.dat
buf i cannot manage to use it using an hex editor

rory208
07-23-2005, 05:14 PM
If I'm that heavily damaged, I order crash dive, take the crew off duty and start handing out the "Kool-Aid".

stinkhammer6
07-24-2005, 06:48 AM
LOL ok suicide kool aid man!!!

If Im going down and still at a depth to where i can fire my harpoons, Ill set the pistol to salvo and set the gyro as wide as it will go and fire, if Im going down, davey jones is going to meet others besides myself.

altstiff
07-24-2005, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by stinkhammer6:
There was an excellent sim out a while back called European Air War, and if you had to bail out you fought the plane the best you could to get to the ocean so you could be saved by rescue boats, if you bailed out over enemy land you were captured. This method wouldnt hurt SH3 one bit, they could just tack on like a month or so for recovery time and getting you into a new tub.

We have an excellent sim now that does that. IL-2 FB and Pacific Fighters.

Also, if your hurt in action your campaign takes a break while your in hospital and fires up again a few months later.

Very neat......

GT182
07-24-2005, 12:57 PM
And using certain DGens you can come back to life too to continue flying. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I've had more fun with IL2/AEP/PF and lives that a cat has. LOL

Acme70
07-24-2005, 02:04 PM
Originally posted by rm_1944:
Another method of surrender besides waving the white flag was to turn the deck gun towards the conning tower. Similar to a plane lowering it's gear to surrender. And visually much easier to spot than a flag.

Standard allied procedure to prevent the Germans from scuttling the boat was to fire at the Sub to keep the Germans from abandoning, As a result alot of Germans who got out first were either killed or wounded, So seeing German sailors rushing to the Deck Gun would probably provoke allied gunners

captsteubie
07-25-2005, 03:13 AM
It would be nice to do something besides provide a new artificial reef for some divers. I miss the CAoD days of at least being able to count your tonnage and think of esacpe and a future. Kretschmer did it! After all, Argentina was there. At least show a good death scene. Even in the game "Duck Hunt" for Nintendo, the dog laughed at you when you missed. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif