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DrCR
10-14-2004, 02:51 PM
I'm getting two stories.

http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/uk/devteamquestions1.php
Question 3:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
3. What is the current status in regards to system specs?
Supported OS: Windowsâ® 98/ME/2000/XP (only)
Processor: Pentiumâ® III 1.4 GHz or AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 1.4 GHz
(Pentium 4 2.0 GHz or AMD Athlon 2.0Ghz recommended)
RAM: 256 MB (512 MB recommended)
Video Card: 64 MB (128 MB recommended) DirectXâ® 9 compatible graphics card (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9 compatible PCI card

*Currently Supported Video Cards
NVIDIAâ® Geforceâ"ž˘ 3/4/FX series with the exception of MX series cards
ATIâ® Radeon 8500/9000 family cards or newer
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It says DX9 but a Geforce 3/4 is most assuredly not DX9! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

What gives?

DrCR

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DrCR
10-14-2004, 02:51 PM
I'm getting two stories.

http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/uk/devteamquestions1.php
Question 3:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
3. What is the current status in regards to system specs?
Supported OS: Windowsâ® 98/ME/2000/XP (only)
Processor: Pentiumâ® III 1.4 GHz or AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 1.4 GHz
(Pentium 4 2.0 GHz or AMD Athlon 2.0Ghz recommended)
RAM: 256 MB (512 MB recommended)
Video Card: 64 MB (128 MB recommended) DirectXâ® 9 compatible graphics card (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9 compatible PCI card

*Currently Supported Video Cards
NVIDIAâ® Geforceâ"ž˘ 3/4/FX series with the exception of MX series cards
ATIâ® Radeon 8500/9000 family cards or newer
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It says DX9 but a Geforce 3/4 is most assuredly not DX9! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

What gives?

DrCR

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king_cam
10-14-2004, 08:00 PM
i have a dx9 on a geforce 3.

macker33
10-14-2004, 08:52 PM
I have a geforce 4 and dx9.

AKA44
10-14-2004, 08:55 PM
I think it means that u need dx9 for compatibility and geforce 3 for performances.

AKA44
10-14-2004, 09:21 PM
btw i have a geforce 4 (too) ti4200, and which card do u think could succeed to it in performance/price ratio ? I mean performances difference between ti4200 and ti4800 was smaller than between 6600 and 6800.
http://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/09/IMG0009230.gif
(DrCR, fun to see another lo-mac forum poster having interest in subsim...)

TASKFORCE1x1
10-15-2004, 07:24 AM
The dev team says it will support SP2 for XP home and pro editions. DX9 is in SP2. Both either slipstreamed or cold patched XP pro or home will work. Doesnt matter. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Redwine
10-15-2004, 08:10 AM
There is a fact, i dont understand well.........

In some place of the FAQs saids......... no support for MX video cards........ or some thing.

I soupose it is due this cards had not "non square texture support" and "non power of 2 texture sides support"

I found this anoying problem in my mod Hardcore TDC Mod, when some people was not able to manage a 1800x32 pixels textures............but many had no problem........

Finally with the help of most expert friend of the subcommunity, we determine the MX video card mathematicla proccessors had not capability to manage this non standard textures.......

I rebuild the textures in 2048x32 and in 2048x2048............ and many people solve the problem...........

But in the FAQs saids, will be support for most comon DX9 video cards ( non MX ).

3. What is the current status in regards to system specs?
Supported OS: Windowsâ® 98/ME/2000/XP (only)
Processor: Pentiumâ® III 1.4 GHz or AMD Athlonâ"ž˘ 1.4 GHz
(Pentium 4 2.0 GHz or AMD Athlon 2.0Ghz recommended)
RAM: 256 MB (512 MB recommended)
Video Card: 64 MB (128 MB recommended) DirectXâ® 9 compatible graphics card (see supported list*)
Sound Card: DirectX 9 compatible PCI card


*Currently Supported Video Cards
NVIDIAâ® Geforceâ"ž˘ 3/4/FX series with the exception of MX series cards
ATIâ® Radeon 8500/9000 family cards or newer



May be the Dev. Team is using non standar textures to improve game run, to save computer resourses........

We mut to consider it prior to buy a new video card...............

Please do not take it as a true........ i only note the sentence wich saids..........

"with the exception of the MX series cards"

Do anybody know more about this ?

And which new cards supports non standar textures ?

mlody111
10-15-2004, 12:55 PM
I was thinking exatly the samething that DRcr was. Geforece 3/4 cards can and will run dx9 because the creators of dx9 have made them compatible, but this doesnt mean they run dx9 to the fullest.

DX9 has many new features such as the "heat wave" which distorts the area around a hot object. Geforce 3/4 cards cannot render this and it will not appear. So the question comes down to...

Do we need a DX9 generation graphics card to be able to see all the features in SHIII?

(I think this should be a question of the day http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Philipscdrw
10-15-2004, 03:39 PM
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Atlantis - is this DX9 generation??

DrCR
10-15-2004, 06:38 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Philipscdrw:
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro Atlantis - is this DX9 generation?? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, the 9800 is DX9.

DX9 ATI cards from faster to slower:
Radeon X800series, 9800XT, 9800 Pro, 9800, 9700 Pro, 9600XT (pretty close to the 9700Pro in many areas though), 9600Pro, 9600, 9600SE.

DX9 Nvidia cards from slower to faster:
FX5200, 5600, 5700, 5950XT, 5900, 5950, 6600, 6600GT/6800 (almost the same I believe, but I doubt exactly), 6800U.

Note the “XT” denotation on an nvida card means slower while the XT denotation on an ATI card means faster. The 9600SE is really too slow though. As is the FX5200 and the FX5600 (which is really just the 5200 with better FSAA algorithms). Don’t spend your money on either of these three. A 9600Pro can be had for ~$100USD on ebay, a 9700Pro too if you a good lurker. A 9800Pro can be had for less than $150 and I believe you can even get an OEM one from places like newegg for $150 (which is amazing considering how much they were six months to a year ago!).


Oh, and guys, I'm naturally talking about hardware here. You can have DX9 installed on your rig and be using a GF2 (which is DX7 hardware)! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

No “DX9” game is pure DX9 (at least not any I know of right off). Most have a combination of DX8 and DX9, perhaps some DX7. Not only is it easier for the card to render, but it also offers support to gamers who don’t have the latest hardware.

The GF4MX really doesn’t deserve the GF4 title. It’s really just a GF2 on a newer board. The FX5200 was a much better budget nvidid card, but it’s not particularly good. I don’t know much about the 6200, but I would approach with caution.

My recommendation? You can get a GF4 Ti4600 for less than $100 on ebay, but I would go ahead get spend money toward a DX9 card and get a 9800 Pro, if not then a 9600Pro. I would shy away from nvidia’s FX series as it was really nvidia catch-up time. I really like nvidia’s 6xxx series though. Definitely a much better answer to the ATI offerings then the FX series was at its time.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AKA44:
DrCR, fun to see another lo-mac forum poster having interest in subsim... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow, how did you know I was a Lomacer? How would I know you? I used to be very active indeed with Lomac, but that was some time ago. I spend most of my online time at places like www.procooling.com (http://www.procooling.com) now. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Then again, this year at the unv. has really limited my activity in anything not directly school related.


DrCR

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AKA44
10-15-2004, 10:40 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DrCR:
I used to be very active indeed with Lomac, but that was some time ago. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Me too, it was during the development time.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DrCR:
Wow, how did you know I was a Lomacer? How would I know you? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not a question of knowing, i just remember your nick.

DrCR
10-17-2004, 07:11 PM
Cool. Sorry I don't remember you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

DrCR. out.