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ebonheart_2_329
06-03-2005, 08:10 PM
I dont know about the earlyer models of the P-51, but didnt the D models have a couple of small, round mirrors on the canopy frame?

I keep seeing them on the History Channel atleast. ?:-\

Could that be added to the 'already done' 4.0 update?

Tallyho1961
06-03-2005, 09:07 PM
I've seen those myself. Being a fan of mirrors I would love to see them on the 51D, but doubt it will happen. 51C has them.

LeadSpitter_
06-04-2005, 03:31 AM
from factory they did not have them but just about every wartime p-51 had them 3 different types, all from p47s p40s and the twin mirrors were from spitfires and hurricanes.

For a game that supports mirrors and rear seat we cannot look behind i find it odd they dont put them in game.

Same with rich mixture for s20s and b25 bombers and us fighters which all had auto lean or autorich.

I dont think they plan on working on anything us made anymore.

Diablo310th
06-04-2005, 09:39 AM
In the Jug you have to use the mirrors. The headrest has been modelled all the way across the cockpit so you have very limited rear view.....not like the real thing. It should, like the Stang have a rear view similar to the A6M2. But alas. like mirrors on teh D model I doubt we ever get that.

ebonheart_2_329
06-04-2005, 01:43 PM
Darn it...

I hope Olegs BOB is good, could somebody assist me in finding that BOB update page I've hered of?

and has anybody hered if BOB will be able to have aircraft added to it in updates and things... it would be a shame to have such a good sim without having all the planes in it.

Willey
06-04-2005, 04:32 PM
Mirrors suck, as they kill the framerate by at least 50% http://www.ubisoft.de/smileys/26.gif

Anyone who still is able to use them is a cheater for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Tallyho1961
06-04-2005, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by Willey:
Mirrors suck, as they kill the framerate by at least 50% http://www.ubisoft.de/smileys/26.gif

Anyone who still is able to use them is a cheater for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Huh?

WOLFMondo
06-04-2005, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by Diablo310th:
In the Jug you have to use the mirrors. The headrest has been modelled all the way across the cockpit so you have very limited rear view.....not like the real thing. It should, like the Stang have a rear view similar to the A6M2. But alas. like mirrors on teh D model I doubt we ever get that.

That mirror has saved me countless amounts of times though, no matter how good or bad it ishttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

NAFP_supah
06-04-2005, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Willey:
Mirrors suck, as they kill the framerate by at least 50% http://www.ubisoft.de/smileys/26.gif

Anyone who still is able to use them is a cheater for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

Get a better PC, untill then stay in the kiddies part of the pool. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bolt40
06-04-2005, 09:27 PM
Mirrors are a cheat to me... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif tell that to the countless fighter jocks who 's 6 was saved by having them...they were a fact and shouldnt have been overlooked . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

HelSqnProtos
06-04-2005, 11:14 PM
Originally posted by NAFP_supah:Get a better PC, untill then stay in the kiddies part of the pool. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif


Right on !!!!!

TAGERT.
06-05-2005, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by LeadSpitter_:
from factory they did not have them but just about every wartime p-51 had them 3 different types, all from p47s p40s and the twin mirrors were from spitfires and hurricanes.

For a game that supports mirrors and rear seat we cannot look behind i find it odd they dont put them in game.

Same with rich mixture for s20s and b25 bombers and us fighters which all had auto lean or autorich.

I dont think they plan on working on anything us made anymore. Alot of stangs used the P38 mirrors too

WOLFMondo
06-05-2005, 03:41 AM
That Microsoft guy who has the private plane collection and has the P51 restoration video's on his site, that P51 has a mirror and they say thats one of the most accurate restorations of any P51D.

NAFP_supah
06-05-2005, 03:45 AM
I bought P-51D Walkaround by Squadron Signal Productions, there are a lot of pictures of bubbletop mustangs in there with Mirrors. I think historically its been proven that they had these.

JG53Frankyboy
06-05-2005, 08:30 AM
can we have mirrors for the Bf109E at least than too http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/images/cai_3.jpg
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

at least than in BoB

LeadSpitter_
06-05-2005, 12:28 PM
franky i seen a bunch of pictures of 109g6s f2 f4 also having a mirror on the inside of the canopy. Cool pic by the way.

Maybe a field mod varient of these ac including the mirror might be worth it for a very little ammount of work.

Bull_dog_
06-06-2005, 07:21 PM
lots of pictures exist with planes, mustangs of all models too, with mirrors. This should be standard offering of any aircraft that a person can produce a legitimate photo of.

RogueSnake79
06-06-2005, 07:36 PM
I agree 100% with you guys. The mustangs should have one.

Without it you can not get a direct view of your 6 o'clock. Mybe 5 and 7 o'clock. I guess the real pilots could twist their heads alittle futher than we can in this game, and look overtop of the seat.

Its alittle late in the game, so I guess we won't see it. Atleast with 4.0

I would have started a thread on this a long time ago. But with so many threads asking for stuff. I kinda feel like I would just be talking to myself.

Capt._Tenneal
06-07-2005, 07:46 AM
Hey there ebonheart ! A little off-topic, but I just noticed your name. Fellow MW fan, eh ? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif