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Abraxa
11-07-2004, 04:17 PM
I just (almost http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) completed the first skin for Flakwalker's Re 2001 model.

Pippz and Caspar made an wonderful cockpit for it too!

Several modellers, texturers, skinners and researchers of historical infos under the name of the Club Med made a great job and completed several Italian fighters, ready to be introduced in the game.

Among them the G55, Macchi MC 200, 202 and 205, Re 2000 and Re 2001.

We will be able to gather and provide all the blueprints and performance data you need to introduce them.
Oleg plese, give us just an indication concerning our job, if it can go on for a future patch or it's useless right now.

If you don't want to answer on the forum or you need further references, info, screenshots or anything else, I will contact you via email.

NOTICE: The modellers and members of the Club Med authorized me to ask you this clarification.


Here's some screenshot of the Re 2001's external model and skin.

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/9186/1347.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/6681/1348.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/369/1350.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/5738/1352.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/8289/1353.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/7999/1349.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/7880/1355.jpg

Abraxa
11-07-2004, 04:17 PM
I just (almost http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ) completed the first skin for Flakwalker's Re 2001 model.

Pippz and Caspar made an wonderful cockpit for it too!

Several modellers, texturers, skinners and researchers of historical infos under the name of the Club Med made a great job and completed several Italian fighters, ready to be introduced in the game.

Among them the G55, Macchi MC 200, 202 and 205, Re 2000 and Re 2001.

We will be able to gather and provide all the blueprints and performance data you need to introduce them.
Oleg plese, give us just an indication concerning our job, if it can go on for a future patch or it's useless right now.

If you don't want to answer on the forum or you need further references, info, screenshots or anything else, I will contact you via email.

NOTICE: The modellers and members of the Club Med authorized me to ask you this clarification.


Here's some screenshot of the Re 2001's external model and skin.

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/9186/1347.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/6681/1348.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/369/1350.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/5738/1352.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/8289/1353.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/7999/1349.jpg

http://img107.exs.cx/img107/7880/1355.jpg

Box-weasel
11-07-2004, 04:50 PM
It's a shame that after all this time and work there is still no indication that any of these will make it into the game. It was aeons ago that Xanty(?) showed pictures of the SM79 too.

BUMP

Gatt59
11-08-2004, 12:04 AM
Abraxa, please post some pics about other Macchi, Reggiane and Fiat as well. I know they are excellent http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

We'll bump! them for some months http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

marmossel
11-08-2004, 12:57 AM
good work... they surely diserve to get in... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-08-2004, 01:41 AM
The cockpit, by Pippz and Caspar!

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/re2001fin/re8.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/re2001fin/re1.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/re2001fin/re1.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/re2001fin/re2.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/re2001fin/re3.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/re2001fin/re4.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/re2001fin/re5.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/re2001fin/re6.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/re2001fin/re12.jpg

269GA-Veltro
11-08-2004, 01:50 AM
Oleg, also these birds.....we need some news about them from you or Alexander.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

We are in November.....http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

FIAT G55 "Centauro"
http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/UPDATE/024.jpg

MC 205 "Veltro"
http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/UPDATE/Veltro01.jpg

MC 202 "Folgore"
http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/UPDATE/11.JPG

Re 2000
http://img72.photobucket.com/albums/v219/Reggiane/swedishd0.jpg

269GA-Nibbio3
11-08-2004, 02:22 AM
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Fantastic job friends http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Oleg em em... you introduce this wonderful job for we in PF? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

thanks
regards
</span>

269GA-Manta
11-08-2004, 02:51 AM
OUTSTANDING WORK http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

nsu
11-08-2004, 08:20 AM
<span class="ev_code_RED">Wow Club Med great work !!!!</span>


<span class="ev_code_RED">Yes I love Med!!!!</span>
http://people.freenet.de/me109/JG333_Server/Malta33.JPG

http://people.freenet.de/me109/JG333_Server/malta3.JPG

Malta 1942 !


Gruß NSU http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

A.K.Davis
11-08-2004, 08:24 AM
Really beautiful. That you are having to contact Oleg through ORR is very sad. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

nsu
11-08-2004, 08:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by A.K.Davis:
Really beautiful. That you are having to contact Oleg through ORR is very sad. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Club Med post in SimHq.com it is better way to Oleg!!!!!

Gruß NSU http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

gorillasika
11-08-2004, 09:06 AM
Great work!
I really hope these will be included in the game. I would take Med over Pacific or Bob anytime. I hope Oleg will continue his great sims after BOB and do a Mediterranean sim with the new engine.

Atzebrueck
11-08-2004, 09:38 AM
Great work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif ...

I wish the developers would communicate with us "freetime-modelers" a bit more frequent.

Lupo_Argentato
11-08-2004, 10:21 AM
Great Work!!!
Please, can we have these planes in FB?
Thank you

DIRTY-MAC
11-08-2004, 11:43 AM
bump

Gato__Loco
11-08-2004, 12:19 PM
Yessss!! We need these!! Bump, bump, bump!!

269GA FLY
11-08-2004, 05:25 PM
bump!

SUPERAEREO
11-08-2004, 05:55 PM
BUMP!

Willey
11-08-2004, 06:05 PM
Send a link of this thread to PF@1c.ru.

NetDaemon
11-08-2004, 06:18 PM
BUMP!

Cuz I love the Italian warbirds http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Atomic_Marten
11-08-2004, 08:29 PM
I can't wait for these beauties. Excellent work guys. Amazing... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Albe5SA
11-09-2004, 12:05 AM
Sometimes i realy don't undestand you Oleg...

Here you have some realy good models but you don't care about them and in the game we have planes they never flew in the WW2. The Macchi series have been build in thousend and used in Russia too and they will be very appreciate to the pilots usualy fly with the axis side.

I realy don't undestand you Oleg now....

best regards

Gatt59
11-09-2004, 12:36 AM
BUMP! These guys deserve a reply.

269GA-Veltro
11-09-2004, 01:53 AM
Bump!

There would be also these.....:

MC 200 "Saetta"
http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/UPDATE/WIP9_MC200.jpg

SM 79 "Sparviero" AI
http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/UPDATE/SM7900.JPG

Re 2005 "Sagittario" (now only LOD0)
http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/UPDATE/Re_2005_2.jpg

269GA-Manta
11-09-2004, 01:58 AM
All of these birds are within Oleg's demanded features?

It should be great was it so!

PE_Sushi
11-09-2004, 02:09 AM
Oleg is working on PF first patch now.

European potential new planes or maps will be taken care of later, maybe along with the Pe-2, Ju-88 and Murmansk map I guess.

I really hope Club med's fantastic work makes it into the game.

Abraxa
11-09-2004, 02:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Manta:
All of these birds are within Oleg's demande features?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely YES! And the Re 2005 is the only one at a starting stage.

Triple1_EAF51
11-09-2004, 02:17 AM
Go Oleg http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
Insert the italians in IL-2 !!!
Hurry http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

269GA-Nibbio3
11-09-2004, 02:19 AM
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Wonderful Veltro? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

OLEGGGG ... Macchi C200 and 202 are perfect also for the western front, you not agree?
And not only...for me http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Regards
</span>

mapalm
11-09-2004, 03:14 AM
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Extra cool works!!!

These warbirds are legends not only in Italy.

Do hope that in Moscow someone will appreciate them!

greetings

5SA_Millo
11-09-2004, 03:53 AM
BUMP BUMP !!!

I cannot believe that this great job is useless !!!!!
I do not want to believe that this great job is useless !!!!!

Oleg_Maddox
11-09-2004, 04:38 AM
Were is the problem?

Sorry why some one posts and then all begin to cry?


We are in contact with one Italian that cover all these developments (becasue not all Italians speak English).

When they will be done finally - we will evaluate. and then if no bugs - we may put them and tune.
But only final - no technology bugs - models

We already told it many times.

Abraxa
11-09-2004, 06:14 AM
No intention to flame or cry Oleg. Simply, several modellers were unable to contact you. Some could not from June...
I sent you an email.

Jutocsa
11-09-2004, 06:34 AM
As one of those several modellers I can only confirm what Abraxa said. Was not able to get a reply recently from anyone regarding my Re.2000..and its finished since June. I dont know about your contact, personally never got a mail fom him askin about the status of my planes.so how could he know it, I wonder...Anyway I just hope this thing clears up, all these planes are important...and re.2000/hungarian mávag héja are also essential for Eastern front http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

269GA-Maxmars
11-09-2004, 08:17 AM
Bumpage for those planes.. I've recently visited the Vigna di Valle museum, where all those birds are stored in wonderful condition, and I wondered when we will be able to see them in a game.

If you want to create a paid add-on, Oleg, I'll be the first to buy two copies (as I did with all other IL-2 games).

veltro_205
11-09-2004, 08:44 AM
Oleg, we are not whining or crying, only asking for something we think is deserved and due from a very long time.

Since the very first "Il-2" it was asked to have at least a Macchi C.200 for historical correctness. Today not only we see Rumanian IAR fighters, but also experimental one-of-a-kind aircraft implemented in your simulator.

We won't still keep on pushing for Italian aircraft if we were not convinced that yours is No.1 WW2 flight simulation. We are also convinced that Italian aircraft do sell and are a viable alternative to the usual Germans (and now even Japanese...).

We trust your work and the work of your team, but please don't treat us as whining kids, we simply do not deserve that. And you know this.

P.S. there are many more than one single talented person working on the development of the Italian models, and you can see in this thread some of the results: please be sure that this "mysterious" Italian will keep in touch with these guys workings splendidly... another delusion could be the fatal blow to the passion of many.

All the best

_/_/_/_/
_/ Ferdinando 'veltro' D'Amico
_/_/_/'PR' of 4? Stormo Caccia
_/e-mail: veltro@spymac.com
_/

Gatt59
11-09-2004, 09:46 AM
Looks like these guys dont need any advisor, they just need to organize their whole excellent work and send it in the proper way directly to Oleg.

Heya Ferdinando, I see your doing your PR job very well http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-09-2004, 10:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by veltro_205:
P.S. please be sure that this "mysterious" Italian will keep in touch with these guys workings splendidly... another delusion could be the fatal blow to the passion of many.

All the best

_/_/_/_/
_/ Ferdinando 'veltro' D'Amico
_/_/_/'PR' of 4? Stormo Caccia
_/e-mail: veltro@spymac.com
_/ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Carpe diem...... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Thank you Ferdinando!

269GA-Pag
11-09-2004, 11:36 AM
Bumpete bumpete BUmp http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S.taibanzai
11-09-2004, 11:49 AM
yes

Mr Oleg please insert them in the game

they are part of the history of ww2 aviation

you cant ingore them

S.taibanzai
11-09-2004, 12:04 PM
please Oleg

LEXX_Luthor
11-09-2004, 02:05 PM
*bump* for Italy

Wow, I hope Oleg was just busy with our FP ...

Much WW2 theater to cover, no sleep for Oleg.

Abraxa
11-09-2004, 03:52 PM
Seems we finally find a direct way to communicate with Oleg.
Ty for answering to my email Oleg. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif In the next days you will be receiving the first externals and the cockpits for a check. The modellers will quickly correct any possible bug you might find, in order to deliver you a totally reliable work.

Regards

SUPERAEREO
11-09-2004, 04:55 PM
Hoooray!!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

S!

Luftwaffe_109
11-09-2004, 08:13 PM
Yay!!! Soon our Italian allies shall join us on the scorched North African front, lol!!

Lupo_Argentato
11-10-2004, 01:00 AM
Good news at last!
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Great work!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-10-2004, 01:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Luftwaffe_109:
Yay!!! Soon our Italian allies shall join us on the scorched North African front, lol!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not only the North African front.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

You need a little help also for the Pony.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Thank to all for the support. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

uhoh7
11-10-2004, 01:49 AM
TY Oleg and the great independent modelers!

Luftwaffe_109
11-10-2004, 02:26 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Luftwaffe_109:
Yay!!! Soon our Italian allies shall join us on the scorched North African front, lol!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not only the North African front.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

You need a little help also for the Pony.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Thank to all for the support. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

On the contrary, it is we who should be thanking you, for I have a sneaking suspicion that there are many out there who would love to get their hands on these new Italian aircraft. For those like us you have given us a much needed glimer of hope, lol.

For now, we await you on the frozen Eastern Front!

Tooz_69GIAP
11-10-2004, 05:31 AM
Italian aircraft would be so cool!! They fought on the Eastern Front, in Finland, in France, and of course, in the Med. Missions builders would go mad if we got these and the AI SM79!!!!!

laca25
11-10-2004, 07:28 AM
Jotucsa!
that Re2000 looks amazing.....I can't wait to fly it..and of course the rest of the planes look fears as well!

SA5Reaping
11-10-2004, 10:53 AM
Great job
Saluti 5SA_Reaping

pdog1
11-10-2004, 11:39 AM
Whats the point?
The flight models will be porked anyway.
Light and manuervable Re2001 will fly like a stuka. Macchi series, forget about it. more bricks and Fiat G55 will wallow like a pig in mud. Don't even try to say no because you know this will happen. Just look at current Jap planes, like Ki61, total POS when in reality it was a much better fighter.
Italian fighters will share the same fate, that is even if they become flyable before i die, which i doubt.

LEXX_Luthor
11-10-2004, 12:03 PM
pdog hates Italians

LittleMadZ
11-10-2004, 12:19 PM
Bump Bump and again Bump!!!!! Guys your work is really incredible! (aaaarrrrghhhhhhh the 205!!!!!) Don't give up! we will go on bumping this till end of the century!

Bye to all

LittleMadZ

Abraxa
11-10-2004, 12:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pdog1:
Whats the point?
The flight models will be porked anyway.
Light and manuervable Re2001 will fly like a stuka. Macchi series, forget about it. more bricks and Fiat G55 will wallow like a pig in mud. Don't even try to say no because you know this will happen. Just look at current Jap planes, like Ki61, total POS when in reality it was a much better fighter.
Italian fighters will share the same fate, that is even if they become flyable before i die, which i doubt. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ty Pdog, your optimistic support is right what we needed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

I'm joking http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Look here. This is a skin I made thanks to the precious help of Ferdinando D'Amico. Don't you want to fly it? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://ourworld.cs.com/Abra772/screenz205/1.jpg
http://ourworld.cs.com/Abra772/screenz205/2.jpg

http://ourworld.cs.com/Abra772/screenz205/3.jpg
http://ourworld.cs.com/Abra772/screenz205/4.jpg
http://ourworld.cs.com/Abra772/screenz205/4b.jpg

pdog1
11-10-2004, 01:14 PM
Yes i do want to fly it, there is a picture and orofile of that 205 in D'Amico's book Air War Italy which i have, awsome book.

Lupo_Argentato
11-10-2004, 01:15 PM
Great skin Abraxa and great model!

@Pdog: I still hope http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Great work, keep it coming!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
bye

Abraxa
11-10-2004, 01:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lupo_Argentato:
Great skin Abraxa and great model!

@Pdog: I still hope http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Great work, keep it coming!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif
bye <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ty http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

The model was made by Giobianco and Malolo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

laca25
11-10-2004, 01:27 PM
Although I really like PF (the whole aircraft carrier thing is really amazing) but my favorite theater of war always be Europe. On the other hand there i nothing more entertaining than dogfighting with some less advanced fighters (no offense italian freinds) and still having the option to jump into some high end machine's cocpit.

Itto_Okami
11-10-2004, 02:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by laca25:
Although I really like PF (the whole aircraft carrier thing is really amazing) but my favorite theater of war always be Europe. On the other hand there i nothing more entertaining than dogfighting with some less advanced fighters (no offense italian freinds) and still having the option to jump into some high end machine's cocpit. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Do you really believe that Macchi 205 or Reggiane 2005 were less advanced than Bf.109? No intention to start a flame war... but you should start to think about improve your aeronautical knowledge...

S!

Itto

Sto1MAR1MP
11-10-2004, 04:24 PM
*bump* for Italy http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

pdog1
11-10-2004, 04:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Itto_Okami:

Do you really believe that Macchi 205 or Reggiane 2005 were less advanced than Bf.109? No intention to start a flame war... but you should start to think about improve your aeronautical knowledge...

S!

Itto <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think he got the book where they say the Spitfire is made out of wood.

NegativeGee
11-10-2004, 06:33 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pdog1:
I think he got the book where they say the Spitfire is made out of wood. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its quite popular round here, so I am told http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But don't get so down on the potential for the Italian planes until we actually have them..... don't forget although the Ki-61 is porky atm, it is due for love in the patch http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-11-2004, 01:08 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pdog1:
Whats the point?
The flight models will be porked anyway.
Light and manuervable Re2001 will fly like a stuka. Macchi series, forget about it. more bricks and Fiat G55 will wallow like a pig in mud. Don't even try to say no because you know this will happen. Just look at current Jap planes, like Ki61, total POS when in reality it was a much better fighter.
Italian fighters will share the same fate, that is even if they become flyable before i die, which i doubt. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LoL! Pdog is come back!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Pdog....we need also your help http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

269GA-Maxmars
11-11-2004, 01:21 AM
LOL Pdog! Welcome back! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-11-2004, 01:40 AM
Pdog, waiting for a credible http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif MC 205 "Veltro", a little present for you. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://ourworld.cs.com/veltrof2/PresentazioneMC205-Club+Med2.zip

269GA-Nibbio3
11-11-2004, 04:09 AM
<span class="ev_code_yellow">
Well PDOG,
... now I have understood who well I steal the delicious Italian wine from my wine cellar... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I pray you not to write after to have drunk http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif
</span>

Abraxa
11-11-2004, 04:10 AM
I suggest all the people interested to know what a Macchi 205 really was, in the words of who piloted it, to download the pdf made by Veltro and linked above, it's really interesting. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Lupo_Argentato
11-11-2004, 05:23 AM
I can only agree. The stories in that pdf are really interesting and a good read. To those who are interested in Italian aviation: follow Abraxa's advice and read it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif You won't regret it.
Bye

Lupo

P.S. thank you for the pdf Veltro

laca25
11-11-2004, 09:13 AM
quotehttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gifo you really believe that Macchi 205 or Reggiane 2005 were less advanced than Bf.109? No intention to start a flame war... but you should start to think about improve your aeronautical knowledge...

To be honest with you it doesn't make a difference to me 'couse I'd like to fly the Re 2000.
cheers.

DIRTY-MAC
11-11-2004, 10:23 AM
Gimme Gimme Gimme!

MimmoNightmare
11-11-2004, 10:31 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Complimenti a nome di tutto il 69?Squadrone!
www.69squadrone.it (http://www.69squadrone.it)
Facciamo il tifo per Voi!
Un grazie infinito a coloro che lavorano a questo progetto noi del 69? siamo tutti con Voi!
Non vediamo l'ora di volare con un 205 un 202 o anche un G55......
Lo speriamo almeno....

Itto_Okami
11-11-2004, 05:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
To be honest with you it doesn't make a difference to me 'couse I'd like to fly the Re 2000.
cheers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good... so you'll be happy to know that R.A.F had intention to have the Re.2000 and that advanced contacts were made to buy the license from Reggiane in 1940... But everything went to nothing because Italy entered the war siding Germany... not bad a for a less advanced fighter... isn't it? cheers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

S!

Itto

pdog1
11-11-2004, 07:16 PM
Thanks Veltro, although i read that account that Aeronautico posted on netwings like 5 months ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bisogno di aiuto Veltro?
Se va be!
hehe

ImpStarDuece
11-11-2004, 11:15 PM
Is it just me or does the Re 2001 look like the result of what happens when a Hurri and a Jug get together with a little bit too much alcohol involved... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Its almost like a pot-bellied elephant. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

laca25
11-12-2004, 12:48 AM
quote:

Good... so you'll be happy to know that R.A.F had intention to have the Re.2000 and that advanced contacts were made to buy the license from Reggiane in 1940... But everything went to nothing because Italy entered the war siding Germany... not bad a for a less advanced fighter... isn't it? cheers

Italian pride...well as I said it doesn't make a difference to me I'll be happy to fly any of those planes even if they are less advanced. On the other hand the RHAF had them on the eastern front in the beginning of the war but they happily traded them for Me-s.

Abraxa
11-12-2004, 01:39 AM
Iaca, let's leave apart things like the "Italian pride" please, or should I make a list of all the kind of "Xcountry pride" laughable posts I read every day? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
A good 1939/40 plane was clearly obsoloete in 1943. That's the case of the Re 2000, a good one in 1940 (inferior to the Spit but superior t the Hurry), obviously obsolete in 1943. It's not a matter of italian planes only. Would you consider a good 1940 plane like the Emil adequate to a 1943 scenario?
You should know yourself through which kind of impressive developement the warbirds went in few yers, given they started the war with many biplanes and they ended it on the jets...
The Italian Air Force suffered of many problems during all the wartime. To give some well known examples, the G50 was simply a failure (even if it did nice in the Finnish front). The CR42 was a very good biplane, but the concept of the biplane was not adequate anymore to a modern war. The Mc 200 was better than a Hurry, but it still suffered for a weak armament, it had no radio and it had an open cockpit.
Things started to change in 1941 with the Folgore. Italian pilots felt they could start to fight with the enemy with a reliable and tough bird. Still, the armament was once more time weak. 2x7.7mgs and 2x12,7 mgs.
The series5 fighters (1943) were not inferior to their adversaries and in many ways they were better of several of them, but given the almost artigianal way of production of the italian industry (numbers of birds produced for month and time employed to produce a single bird were messy, if compared to the German production), they were delivered in too few numbers to make some difference.
Nothing that anyone who happened to read a book on the Italian WW2 AF doesn't know, but in some cases it helps to repeat it... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-12-2004, 01:48 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MimmoNightmare:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
Complimenti a nome di tutto il 69?Squadrone!
http://www.69squadrone.it
Facciamo il tifo per Voi!
Un grazie infinito a coloro che lavorano a questo progetto noi del 69? siamo tutti con Voi!
Non vediamo l'ora di volare con un 205 un 202 o anche un G55......
Lo speriamo almeno.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Grazie, ce la faremo, ce la dobbiamo fare!!! Dopo a certi post risponderemo a colpi da 20mm. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-12-2004, 01:50 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abraxa:
Iaca, let's leave apart things like the "Italian pride" please, or should I make a list of all the kind of "Xcountry pride" laughable posts I read every day? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
A good 1939/40 plane was clearly obsoloete in 1943. That's the case of the Re 2000, a good one in 1940 (inferior to the Spit but superior t the Hurry), obviously obsolete in 1943. It's not a matter of italian planes only. Wouldn't you considere a good 1940 plane like the Emil adequate to a 1943 scenario?
You should know yourself through which kind of impressive developement the warbirds went in few yers, given they started the war with many biplanes and they ended it on the jets...
The Italian Air Force suffered of many problems during all the wartime. To give some well known examples, the G50 was simply a failure (even if it did nice in the Finnish front). The CR42 was a very good biplane, but the concept of the biplane was not adequate anymore to a modern war. The Mc 200 was considered better than a Hurry, but it still suffered for a weak armament, it had no radio and it had an open cockpit.
Things started to change in 1941 with the Folgore. Italian pilots felt they could start to fight with the enemy with a reliable and tough bird. Still, the armament was once more timeweak. 2x7.7mgsand 2x12,7 mgs.
The series5 fighters (1943) were not inferior to their adversaries and in many ways they wer better of several of them, but given the almost artigianal way of production of the italian industry (numbers of birds produced for month and time employed to produce a single bird were messy, if compared to the German production), they were delivered in too few numbers to make some difference.
Nothing that anyone who happened to read a book on the Italian WW2 AF doesn't know, but in some cases it helps to repeat it... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Right. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-12-2004, 01:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pdog1:
Thanks Veltro, although i read that account that Aeronautico posted on netwings like 5 months ago. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Bisogno di aiuto Veltro?
Se va be!
hehe <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ciao Pdog!!! Aiutami porta pazienza!!!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Itto_Okami
11-12-2004, 08:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abraxa:
Iaca, let's leave apart things like the "Italian pride" please, or should I make a list of all the kind of "Xcountry pride" laughable posts I read every day? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
A good 1939/40 plane was clearly obsoloete in 1943. That's the case of the Re 2000, a good one in 1940 (inferior to the Spit but superior t the Hurry), obviously obsolete in 1943. It's not a matter of italian planes only. Would you consider a good 1940 plane like the Emil adequate to a 1943 scenario?
You should know yourself through which kind of impressive developement the warbirds went in few yers, given they started the war with many biplanes and they ended it on the jets...
The Italian Air Force suffered of many problems during all the wartime. To give some well known examples, the G50 was simply a failure (even if it did nice in the Finnish front). The CR42 was a very good biplane, but the concept of the biplane was not adequate anymore to a modern war. The Mc 200 was better than a Hurry, but it still suffered for a weak armament, it had no radio and it had an open cockpit.
Things started to change in 1941 with the Folgore. Italian pilots felt they could start to fight with the enemy with a reliable and tough bird. Still, the armament was once more time weak. 2x7.7mgs and 2x12,7 mgs.
The series5 fighters (1943) were not inferior to their adversaries and in many ways they were better of several of them, but given the almost artigianal way of production of the italian industry (numbers of birds produced for month and time employed to produce a single bird were messy, if compared to the German production), they were delivered in too few numbers to make some difference.
Nothing that anyone who happened to read a book on the Italian WW2 AF doesn't know, but in some cases it helps to repeat it... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks a lot Abraxa... I couldn't find better words. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

S!

Itto

laca25
11-12-2004, 02:29 PM
I am so sorry but this still doesn't make any difference to me...inferior or not, how many and when it isn't my business. The only reason why I posted in this thread to express my support to the excellent 3d artists who made those beutiful models and keep this thread around so hopefully others notice it and join in as well. I am enyojing this game and I hope to see new (Italian) additions in the near future which would bring even more variety and fun to this already excellent game. If any of my Italian friends feels that I have offended them in any way I am more than eager to come forward and appologize but I do feel that my point has been missed. Anyway, let's cut the **** and play! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Best regards.

laca25
11-12-2004, 03:09 PM
Ok! I have a better idea. I have rephrased my original post and I hope it helps to clear up things.

Although I really like PF (the whole aircraft carrier thing is really amazing) but my favorite theater of war will always be Europe. On the other hand there is nothing more entertaining than dogfighting with some cool designed italian biplane and than jump into some monoplanes's cockpit.

Voila!

Abraxa
11-12-2004, 04:34 PM
Don't worry laca, I doubt someone was offended, well not me at least http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Ty for your support. That's all that really counts http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

laca25
11-12-2004, 04:44 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abraxa:

Ty for your support. That's all that really counts http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

100% agreed! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

p1ngu666
11-12-2004, 08:23 PM
italien planes outstyle german planes easy http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

btw luthor, pdog is italien-american

great models and cockpits and skins etc, cant wait to fly them http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

pdog1
11-12-2004, 09:35 PM
lol veltro io non ho pazienza!! arh
lol pingu i think he knows, hje was joking lol pdoig hates italienmsss!!1

MimmoNightmare
11-15-2004, 09:36 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MimmoNightmare:
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif
. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Grazie, ce la faremo, ce la dobbiamo fare!!! Dopo a certi post risponderemo a colpi da 20mm. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
NoN vi conosco ma gia' vi ADORO!
Abbiamo anche NOI qualche conto in sospeso
e non vediamo l'ora di saldarlo....http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
ciao a tutti e GRAZIE ancora!
W l'ITALIA!

MimmoNightmare
11-15-2004, 10:02 AM
Ok ragazzi siete in HomePage del nostro portale!

http://www.69squadrone.it/index.php

E sul forum:
http://www.69squadrone.it/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=966

Faremo la nostra parte!

Veni Vidi Vici

269GA-Veltro
11-15-2004, 12:16 PM
Ho letto sul vostro sito! Grazie! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

LittleMadZ
11-16-2004, 10:22 AM
Hei guys! Don't stop to post on this thread!!! don't let him die!

Bump rulez! ;-)

Bye to all

Madz

pdog1
11-16-2004, 06:28 PM
Reggiane akbar!

File_404
11-17-2004, 03:17 AM
let's keep this one on top

rbstr44
11-17-2004, 05:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by File_404:
let's keep this one on top <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Agreed.

laca25
11-17-2004, 07:09 AM
Bump!

frankzappa_71
11-17-2004, 08:18 AM
We want italian planes!!!!!!
This topic on top till the relase of macchi and co.

Da quando su sturmovik.it ha chiuso il club med e censurato le papere ho la sensazione che le cose vadano peggio e che le forze si siano divise.... date conforto a noi sparuti!!!!

Good work and thanks a lot to all the italian planes developer.
Frank

269GA FLY
11-17-2004, 10:25 AM
caro frank
...non mi pare proprio che il "Club Med" abbia chiuso, anzi so con certezza che ha ripreso con vigore e sta terminando tutti i lavori finalmente senza ingerenze
sicuramente ha abbandonato x incompatibilit l'importante sito di riferimento per la comunit italiana che hai citato.

Lo stesso vale x alcuni piloti delle Papere Tigrate che hanno chiesto di esserne cancellati.
In ogni caso non ¨ questo il post x rinvangare certe situazioni, giusto? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Vic69Squadrone
11-18-2004, 01:04 AM
Good Work Guys, i hope i will get as soon as possible italian aircraft in my il2

269GA-Nibbio3
11-18-2004, 02:23 AM
<span class="ev_code_yellow">
Hi Frank,
... for these reflections exists an adequate national UBI forum, this is the link :
http://forums-it.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x?a=cfrm&s=840100165

That about which you speak not to be the CLUB MED's space. The called group CLUB MED, for love of precision, has always work in other Forum. If you desires more information, I'm happy to give you, but in other space... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


You believe to me, CLUB MED is strongly and alive
Ciao http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif
</span>

269GA-Nibbio3
11-18-2004, 02:38 AM
<span class="ev_code_yellow">
Em em .. a small present for you all http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP1.jpg
http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP2.jpg
http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP3.jpg
(base model by Radek)
Regards



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Lupo_Argentato
11-18-2004, 05:50 AM
Thank you Nibbio for the present http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

I'm glad to see such interest in Italian planes on these boards: let's hope for the best!
Bye

p1ngu666
11-18-2004, 08:50 AM
sweet http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
think thats lexx_luthor in drivers seat, for some reason http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

dux-1
11-18-2004, 12:42 PM
BUMP for these beauties....
S!

Kongo Otto
11-19-2004, 12:24 AM
Hi all

What a grat job!
Keep going http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

pdog1
11-19-2004, 07:45 PM
Bump + pic

http://www.x-plane.org/users/pdog109/re1.jpg

Afreaka
11-19-2004, 10:34 PM
Reggiane 2001, soon it will be 2005. How long must we wait. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
Absolutely great work on the Itailian fighters. Almost a game in its self watching your dedicated work on fine tuning and skinning. For a very long time I may add. Aesthetics over mass production. Hope they may be add to the mainstay of lesser known or sometimes overlooked aircraft such as the ones from which Il-2 took its original name.
I myself have been waiting for the SM 79 "Sparviero" or a varient of the sort, but a Ju-88 'might' do. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

asso.di.picche
11-20-2004, 02:09 AM
Great and excellent work boys!
I hope to fly with them soon for a complete mediterrean theater.

What's happen to SM 79 sparviero?
Do you have more in depth news?

G

Abraxa
11-20-2004, 03:00 AM
assodipicche, the Clb Med is primarily working to complete the fighters.
The SM79 external model is complete as far as I remember and it could be probably introduced as an AI, hopefully together with some other bombers, but I doubt it will happen before the fighters are ready and delivered.

laca25
11-21-2004, 11:18 AM
Back to the top!

WOLFMondo
11-21-2004, 02:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
italien planes outstyle german planes easy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They make much more aestheticly pleasing targetshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Count_Giacula
11-21-2004, 05:34 PM
This is my first post here in ages... but I feel the urge to say: great models, guys!

I'm in love with these birds and I'm looking forward to play them! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

p1ngu666
11-21-2004, 07:55 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
italien planes outstyle german planes easy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They make much more aestheticly pleasing targetshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hm true, but i do like shooting germans more http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

also check out the gauges in g50 and cr42 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-22-2004, 12:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
italien planes outstyle german planes easy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

They make much more aestheticly pleasing targetshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

..yes, but also P38 would be a nice target for my C 205. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Gatt59
11-22-2004, 04:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WOLFMondo:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
italien planes outstyle german planes easy <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
They make much more aestheticly pleasing targetshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

NOT! Nothing is more aesthetically pleasing like a turn & burnin' Sissyfire going down in flames http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ednavar
11-22-2004, 09:02 AM
I've just shown this thread to my great uncle. He was a bit disappointed that no one is interested in "his" plane - he was a radio operator on a SM 82 - but still he is really eager to try the new planes. Great work guys!

S!

http://www.eichhorn.ws/assets/images/savoia_Marchetti_SM82_Canguru.jpg

Abraxa
11-22-2004, 11:13 AM
look here, Nibbio already worked on the SM 82, but he's now concentrating himself on the fighters. Hopefully, he will continue with the bombers too, in the next future http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/SM82.jpg

dux-1
11-24-2004, 02:49 PM
bump.. for the Med..........

popse
11-24-2004, 04:07 PM
Bump this

Iv just read a book about Malta, and there is a lot of classic dogfights. Before completlly turning to BOB, PLS fullfill this game by adding:
1 Italians (all of them)
2 Flyable Fokker D XXI
3 Flyable JU88
4 Flyable MS406 (Battle of France)

Gatt59
11-25-2004, 03:42 AM
Actually Malta was one of the bloodiest air war front of the whole WW2.

Oleg should have almost all the a/c to model that front and North Africa - Sicily as well. Italians from Club Med modeller group and a/c already present in the IL-2/FB/AEP set should be able to fill the needed plane set: G.50. C.200, CR-42, C.202, Bf109E/F, Bf110, Ju-87, P-40. Hurricanes I-II, Spitfire I-II-V, Blenheim, Martlet, Royal Navy Carriers, Swordfish ... etc.etc.

The desert terrain and coasts should be easy to create and the supply convoys system from Sicily to North Africa and from Gibraltar/Alexandria to Malta as well.

Aero_Shodanjo
11-25-2004, 05:07 AM
Thoughts that crossed my mind whenever I see:

*Mustang: "Hmm, yup, Cadillac."

*Spitfire: "Ok, Rolls Royce."

*IL2: "Wow, T72."

*Fw 190: "Aha! BMW!"

Then I saw the first page of this thread and something yelled inside...

"FERARRI!!! LAMBORGHINI!!!" http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Uh, I think this is because I just saw a new red hot Italian supercar (cant get a clear view but Im sure it was a Lamborghini) on a car dealer nearby... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

But seriously guys, I admire your works. Cant wait to try these hotro... err... warbirds myself! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-25-2004, 05:11 AM
I live 5 km far from Lamborghini... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Aero_Shodanjo
11-25-2004, 05:14 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
I live 5 km far from Lamborghini... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

See anything zapped by recently? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-25-2004, 07:32 AM
LoL, a lot of time! Really a lot of time, but they are completely camouflaged during the tests on the road.

LittleMadZ
11-25-2004, 11:35 AM
Ciao Veltro, grande lavoro il vostro!!! Dico davvero! Se sei a Novegro sabato passo a farti un saluto al volo al Vs. stand. Miraccomando non mollate proprio ora che forse ci siamo.

Saluti a tutti

Madz

Gato__Loco
11-25-2004, 11:41 AM
Maybe we should start asking for a couple of maps to go with these planes! Say a large map including Malta, Sicily and the southern tip of Italy, and expanding the current "Dessert" map to make it Tunisia and Algeria.

Gato

269GA-Veltro
11-26-2004, 03:17 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LittleMadZ:
Ciao Veltro, grande lavoro il vostro!!! Dico davvero! Se sei a Novegro sabato passo a farti un saluto al volo al Vs. stand. Miraccomando non mollate proprio ora che forse ci siamo.

Saluti a tutti

Madz <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ci vediamo a Novegro (per² io ci vado domenica) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

269GA-Veltro
11-26-2004, 03:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Gato__Loco:
Maybe we should start asking for a couple of maps to go with these planes! Say a large map including Malta, Sicily and the southern tip of Italy, and expanding the current "Dessert" map to make it Tunisia and Algeria.

Gato <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Good question....

But first of all we must give to Oleg some good models and cockpits, without bugs. After this, and only after this we could "ask" for a map.

Sicily and Malta would be fantastic off course, but Oleg probably would like have these maps for MED......after BoB i mean. So...
A good idea would be a North East of Italy map, with also the Yugoslavian border (North Yugoslavia). Also the Crotians used our fighters, C 205 for ex.

...waiting also for a good romanian map, Ploiesti for ex.

Only an idea, but the C 205 and G55 without an italian map.....
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

MimmoNightmare
11-26-2004, 04:00 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

Ci vediamo a Novegro (per² io ci vado domenica) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ciao Belli!
Il "grosso" del 69? sara' presente Domenica cosi' avremo modo di ringraziarvi di persona.
Madz spero anche tu faccia un salto domenica.
Sono sicuro che ci divertiremo!
A presto!

269GA-Veltro
11-26-2004, 04:15 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MimmoNightmare:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>

Ci vediamo a Novegro (per² io ci vado domenica) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ciao Belli!
Il "grosso" del 69? sara' presente Domenica cosi' avremo modo di ringraziarvi di persona.
Madz spero anche tu faccia un salto domenica.
Sono sicuro che ci divertiremo!
A presto! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Occhio che a parte Nibbio, non siamo noi del 269 a lavorare sui modelli. Alcuni fanno parte del gruppo ¨ vero, ma molti no. Pippz ad es. ¨ del "22? GCT" e ha fatto TUTTI i cockpits! Altri sono indipendenti o stranieri, altrei appartengono ad altri gruppi.

Comunque se venite a Novegro.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

MimmoNightmare
11-26-2004, 04:37 AM
Conosco di persona Pippz....
Sto' ancora aspettando che viene a prendersi la documentazione sui 205.......LOL!
Se lo becco a novegro gli faccio pagare da bere...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Ciao belli.....

269GA-Veltro
11-26-2004, 04:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MimmoNightmare:
Conosco di persona Pippz....
Sto' ancora aspettando che viene a prendersi la documentazione sui 205.......LOL!
Se lo becco a novegro gli faccio pagare da bere...http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Ciao belli..... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

E fai bene! Gli dobbiamo davvero molto tutti quanti!

pdog1
11-26-2004, 06:22 PM
Who cares about the map, as long as we get to fly them and shoot down stupid spitfires and p51s in droves with italian fighters im happy to see 3x20mm rip apart dumb allied planes and then out manuever them and then out speed them and then see them cry G55 whiners

LEXX_Luthor
11-26-2004, 06:28 PM
pdog:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>happy to see 3x20mm rip apart dumb allied planes and then out manuever them and then out speed them and then see them cry <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Don't wait, be happy now -&gt; http://www.la7.it/

MimmoNightmare
12-11-2004, 09:27 AM
*bump* for Italy

laca25
12-13-2004, 08:52 AM
Yes. Bump.

havebug
12-14-2004, 09:43 AM
Un <span class="ev_code_YELLOW">BUMP</span> anche da parte mia!

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

<span class="ev_code_GREEN">HB</span>
www.22gct.it (http://www.22gct.it)

LEXX_Luthor
12-14-2004, 10:42 AM
Netwing said G.55 is dead. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif True?

269GA-Veltro
12-14-2004, 11:52 AM
Standby...not dead.

Dean_Clean
12-14-2004, 03:41 PM
G.55 Dead? I pray this not to be true. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

Antonio_MRZ
12-16-2004, 06:35 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
Standby...not dead. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Standby ? Too bad... :-(
And what about the S.79 (at least as AI) ?

I'm no 3d modeler, but in case you need a skinner
to help you, I'm here...

Antonio

JG53Frankyboy
12-16-2004, 06:52 AM
concentrate on MC200 , MC202 , Re2000 (Heja) !
planes we would have maps to fly for http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

269GA-Veltro
12-18-2004, 03:55 AM
<span class="ev_code_yellow">7) Other planes - still possible. The limits are the same - they should be
done without technology bugs. Such bugs limit us in time and we are unable to
rework third party models as it was in the past (just 4 guys in the world
doing currently 3D models for our sim with no bugs... Sorry to tell it). We
will say when we will stop completely such things. But currently such things
are still possible.

Oleg Maddox</span>

We must give them models without bugs....so we can say nothing now.
The only updates you had to considere in the future will be the Maddox updates.

For the G 55, it would be a nice addition (model looks amazing) with 3 x 20mm as default armament, but now we must complete without bugs Macchi and Reggiane (5 fighters).

@Antonio: thank for your disponibility. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Ruy Horta
12-18-2004, 05:46 AM
Odd to see such beautiful work go to waste.

And to think that when the community was once asked to state what kind of add on they'd like to see, the majority voted for the Med.

BTW, even Italy would be great to have as campaign, split into 2-3 maps.

Sicily / Malta
Sicily / Southern Italy
Middle / Northern Italy

Varied terrain, some of the heaviest fighting of the Western Front. Most objects already in game - apart from the Italian contingent.

Personally I'd love to fly as part of the X.Korps vs Malta or with the ANR over Northern Italy!

<span class="ev_code_YELLOW">V</span><span class="ev_code_BLACK">e</span><span class="ev_code_YELLOW">s</span><span class="ev_code_BLACK">p</span><span class="ev_code_YELLOW">a</span> <span class="ev_code_BLACK">A</span><span class="ev_code_YELLOW">r</span><span class="ev_code_BLACK">r</span><span class="ev_code_YELLOW">a</span><span class="ev_code_BLACK">b</span><span class="ev_code_YELLOW">b</span><span class="ev_code_BLACK">i</span><span class="ev_code_YELLOW">a</span><span class="ev_code_BLACK">t</span><span class="ev_code_YELLOW">a</span>

Love the "Angry Wasp" logo!

pdog1
12-18-2004, 08:46 PM
lol more proof of italian hate... gentlemen, content your self with 3rd rate fiat cr42 and fiat g50... we will never see good italian fighters like mc200 and series 5 in this game...needs to be a new developer.

Dean_Clean
12-18-2004, 10:13 PM
One day I will fly a worthy representaion of the G.55, but until that day....... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

LEXX_Luthor
12-18-2004, 10:58 PM
pdog:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>gentlemen, content your self with 3rd rate fiat cr~42 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
We will http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif thanks XANITY

pdog hates crapp planes...watches LA7 on TV

Flydutch
12-20-2004, 01:47 AM
Posted originaly by me in the PF Forum Reffering the Gruman Lawsuit against Ubi and in the end Oleg;

I always thought And I Am sure now that Producing A Sim Featuring The Mediterenian and North African Theater would be much better!
(For A sim with A Nice Wheater forecast, Yachting on A Blue Sea, Palmtrees, Beaches, Great food & Culture We could Always Re-model PF into A Mediterenean Sim, Get rid off Avengers, Crazy Cats And Company Lawyers, keeping the Carriers And The Sea:Hurries, Gladiators & Fires. Turn Midway into Malta! and get Piramids, Greek-Temples and Camels as A bonus!)
Btw I Am Seriously missing The German and Italian Axis to play with!

Flydutch
12-20-2004, 02:07 AM
Great work Club Med!

Is there any link to A site that shows your Project/s!?

LEXX_Luthor
12-20-2004, 03:10 AM
FlyDutch:: <BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I always thought And I Am sure now that Producing A Sim Featuring The Mediterenian and North African Theater would be much better! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Your posting is in error, and sadly also mis~informs and Decieves flight simmers at this webboard. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

First, BoB *will* have German and Italian aircraft. Second, The Meds comes right after BoB, and unlike The Meds, the BoB is the desired first testbed for a new gaming engine, given limited geographic area and limited time span allowing focus on developing new features such as ground radar control that could be applicable to ground observers in later sims requiring Aussum Coast Watchers on lonely Pacific islands and billions of Chinese ground observers for American Volunteer Group and Soviet Volunteers.

The Meds will Profit from the experience gained with BoB -- (silence on this issue at this webboard).

Best, BoB is having Battle of Poland and France addon pacs, allowing real flight simmers for the first time in flight sim history to sim not just pop Hollywood "microsoft" planes, but letting us sim Brit and Germany, Poland and France, and Italy.

Oleg chose BoB "first" for a reason, but then he is a professional developer.

Kerosine18
12-20-2004, 03:48 AM
Hi all, i agree with Lexx that Oleg did the right choice. The battle for Malta started out when italy declared war on Britain, so it would be fitting to have the Battle for Britain first, and its consequences later.

apart from that, current PCs wouldnt even MANAGE to handle realism for a battle for malta sim. too many aircraft would be in the air at once over a very densely populated landscape. the landscape would have to include important villages like Valletta and Cottonera area (i'm from Malta), Kalafrana areas (South East Malta, sea plane bases) and the areas around Takali, Safi strip and Luqa bases. Gozo was also populated and these islands would be very important for realism. Without the necessary experience from BoB, a Malta sim would be regarded a failure by the many who right now complain that they want it.

BoB needs to be done to establish another breaktrough like Il2 Sturmovik did. Then, we will get our malta sicily and other maps, and i'll enjoy flying ala beurling in my spit http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

long live malta :P

alistair

LEXX_Luthor
12-20-2004, 04:11 AM
You mean, if they can do London, they can do anything. Makes sense to me.

Kerosine18
12-21-2004, 12:37 AM
yeps. and all the whining can only be satisfied if enough effort is given to the issue. if ubi released a med map now it would be flawed and probably 'malta' would be a desert, as many consider the landscape to hae looked like at that time.

it wasnt like malta 2004, yet it was still a dense population with around 250,000 people! that's a small number, but the island is even smaller, one of the most densely populated places on earth! therefore, if ubi managed to get good experience with places like London and other big cities, then designing Malta would be much easier. long live ubi and oleg, i'm dying to fly over my island!

"Malta was regarded as a fighter pilot's paradise" G. Beurling

269GA-Veltro
12-21-2004, 03:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Flydutch:
Great work Club Med!

Is there any link to A site that shows your Project/s!? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Would be nice....but no more illusions, is better. We hve some very good cockpits almost ready, but some models have bugs so......

For the maps i can only agree, Malta, Sicily and North Africa would be a dream for all.....but the Americans prefered the Korean theater i'm afraid.
BoB as Luthor says is the best option for sure, i agree.

pdog1
12-23-2004, 08:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Flydutch:
I always thought And I Am sure now that Producing A Sim Featuring The Mediterenian and North African Theater would be much better!
(For A sim with A Nice Wheater forecast, Yachting on A Blue Sea, Palmtrees, Beaches, Great food & Culture We could Always Re-model PF into A Mediterenean Sim, Get rid off Avengers, Crazy Cats And Company Lawyers, keeping the Carriers And The Sea:Hurries, Gladiators & Fires. Turn Midway into Malta! and get Piramids, Greek-Temples and Camels as A bonus!)
Btw I Am Seriously missing The German and Italian Axis to play with! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


LOL YES CRACKA... good post lol http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

dux-1
01-04-2005, 12:11 PM
BUMP!!

Petey78
01-05-2005, 08:54 AM
I know that BoB is taking a lot more of the devs time than before and that it's not humanly possible for them to include all the updates and patches that we'd like to have implemented BUT, I for one would be delighted to pay money (20-30GB per 'theatre pack) for add-ons such as a Malta/Med map and related aircraft and/or a Spanish Civil War pack as well as any other theatres of operations or aircraft that the developers could think of whilst still using the current engine. The technology is in place to create such software, (if it wasn't, we wouldn't have AEP/PF etc), the market is there, or at least people say they want these things and I'm making an assumption that they would pay for it too, would it really be so impossible to train or find people with experience who would develop these options even after BoB is released, leaving Oleg and Co just to check the product and/or arrange sub contracted beta testing prior to their final approval? (this is conjecture and honest enquiry and not a flame, by the way). To continuously develop new aircraft and maps for the FB engine would be a boon to all of those who have slightly slower PCs but who could continue to enjoy good quality flight simming with a minimum of stutter and lag. BoB looks great but even though I'm running a pretty fast PC, I have worries that this will be another 'Lock-On', ie, so much eye-candy that it's not particularly playable. Just my tuppence worth, like everybody else I'm a little concerned that so many potentially great aircraft and scenarios could be lost to this engine after so much work has been done and although I am prepared to pay for add-ons ad-infinitum, I'm definitely not ready to invest in a new PC for at least another three years (when my current PC is finally paid-for)! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

pdog1
01-05-2005, 11:16 AM
http://www.iupload.net/102004/starwars.jpg

dux-1
01-06-2005, 10:14 AM
http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/1339.html

Very cool..

CKY_86
01-06-2005, 10:20 AM
what the hell is that thing in the background

269GA-Veltro
01-12-2005, 03:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dux-1:
http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/1339.html

Very cool.. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Very cool but it needs some reworks again, it must be perfect. WIP.

http://www.il2sturmovik.it/pippz/pilotview_wide.jpg

Be patient.

OlegMaddox
01-12-2005, 04:26 AM
Very nice, but as you said, there are still some bugs

Athosd
01-12-2005, 05:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OlegMaddox:
Very nice, but as you said, there are still some bugs <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mods here don't appreciate efforts at impersonating our mate Oleg. Be sure.

MOhz
01-12-2005, 06:47 AM
How did the Italian planes fly? I mean were they more BnZ types? Good at climbing, could they turn well sustained or only cut inside to let of a few rounds. What abour armor and armament?

269GA-Veltro
01-23-2005, 03:12 AM
New Macchi models almost ready for Moscow, C 205 coming very soon.
Not an official update off course, but our project is not dead! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Model by Maddox-Nibbio, skin by Abraxa.

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/1356.html

http://img143.exs.cx/img143/3654/17yp.jpg

http://img143.exs.cx/img143/9866/35iq.jpg

http://img143.exs.cx/img143/4724/50lp.jpg

p1ngu666
01-23-2005, 05:48 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

269GA-Veltro
01-25-2005, 03:15 AM
C 205 new model.

Model by Maddox-Nibbio, skin by Abraxa.

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/1359.html

http://img172.exs.cx/img172/4025/10mc.jpg

http://img172.exs.cx/img172/6717/35fo.jpg

LittleMadZ
01-25-2005, 12:31 PM
Bump for this!!!

What a dream it would be to fly on those planes!!!!

Go on guys! don't give up!!!

I/JG53LittleMad

Ruy Horta
01-26-2005, 04:01 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by LEXX_Luthor:
Your posting is in error, and sadly also mis~informs and Decieves flight simmers at this webboard.

First, BoB *will* have German and Italian aircraft. Second, The Meds comes right after BoB...letting us sim Brit and Germany, Poland and France, and Italy. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hmmm, case of pot meet kettle?

Haven't you learned from PF Luthier?

269GA-Veltro
02-03-2005, 01:42 AM
C 205 A.N.R. "splinter" skin (Luftwaffe colours).

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/3136/1bis5ll.jpg

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/7217/36xr.jpg

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/4270/a2uj.jpg

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/6807/b6rj.jpg

http://img9.exs.cx/img9/2736/c5sm.jpg

nakamura_kenji
02-03-2005, 03:17 AM
model is nice very but eror possible behind canopy

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nakamura_kenji/c5sm.jpg

269GA-Veltro
02-03-2005, 03:20 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by nakamura_kenji:
model is nice very but eror possible behind canopy

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/nakamura_kenji/c5sm.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No error there...i know it's strange but all Macchi fighters had that "holes" behind the pilot, to improve visibility.

nakamura_kenji
02-03-2005, 03:41 AM
i not know, not know anything about italien plane, or geman britsih and russian plane ^_^. learn something day every

Tooz_69GIAP
02-03-2005, 04:31 AM
serious bumpage required for this one!!!

I dunno bout you guys, but these Italian fighters just look dammed good!!!

CKY_86
02-03-2005, 04:33 AM
absolutlly fantastic work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

cant wait too take these italian planes up for a spin

Sharkey888
02-03-2005, 08:52 AM
Hey where's the.................................

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/norman888/mc200.bmp

Great job on the Macchi! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

dgaggi
02-03-2005, 09:18 AM
Oleg please. Great job on the planes guys. I flew the 205 exlcusively on another on-line game and routinely spanked ponies and other uber planes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif I think that Italian planes are a much needed addition to the game. Great job on the planes guys. My mouth is watering. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

p1ngu666
02-03-2005, 12:34 PM
wubbly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

pdog1
02-03-2005, 05:47 PM
3.05, 3.05, will they be in 3.05 or i will die

269GA-Veltro
02-04-2005, 08:32 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Sharkey888:
Hey where's the.................................

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/norman888/mc200.bmp <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't worry for the C 200. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

269GA-Veltro
02-04-2005, 08:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dgaggi:
Oleg please. Great job on the planes guys. I flew the 205 exlcusively on another on-line game and routinely spanked ponies and other uber planes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/784.gif I think that Italian planes are a much needed addition to the game. Great job on the planes guys. My mouth is watering. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, C 205 should be the anti-pony...we hope. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

jagdmailer
02-04-2005, 09:43 AM
Now, try to imagine an Mc. 205 with a 1800hp DB605ASM or even better a 2000hp DB605ASC :-)

Jagd

Ruy Horta
02-08-2005, 10:49 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
C 205 A.N.R. _"splinter"_ skin (Luftwaffe colours). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Veltro, what's the source of your splinter pattern, doesn't look like any I've seen before so I'm curious.

269GA-Veltro
02-08-2005, 11:53 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ruy Horta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
C 205 A.N.R. _"splinter"_ skin (Luftwaffe colours). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Veltro, what's the source of your splinter pattern, doesn't look like any I've seen before so I'm curious. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The source is "Ali e Colori" but not only. Abraxa has reworked that skin a lot of time.

http://www.bancaero.it/shop/images/cat_img/large/lismi3380.jpg

jagdmailer
02-08-2005, 11:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ruy Horta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
C 205 A.N.R. _"splinter"_ skin (Luftwaffe colours). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Veltro, what's the source of your splinter pattern, doesn't look like any I've seen before so I'm curious. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The source is "Ali e Colori" but not only. Abraxa has reworked that skin a lot of time.

http://www.bancaero.it/shop/images/cat_img/large/lismi3380.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Veltro,

Somewhat unrelated to this particular thread but......

Could you please read/answer my reply to your post in the "WHAT ONE NEW FLYABLE PLANE NEED FOR YOU IN ADDON?" thread on the Pacific Fighters board ?

Cheers,

Jagd

269GA-Veltro
02-08-2005, 12:17 PM
Ok...

C 200 is a priority, we konw it...and we have also the original data for the FM.
Where is the fantastic Radek C 200?

I can only say that SaQson is giving to our modellers an incredible support...first of all for the C 200.http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
What we need is more time to complete the cockpit"s" for the C200.

Ok, i'll ask for some pics, but as usual don't considere these kinde of updates as official.

Thank to you jagdmailer for your support, as usual. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Abraxa
02-08-2005, 12:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ruy Horta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
C 205 A.N.R. _"splinter"_ skin (Luftwaffe colours). <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Veltro, what's the source of your splinter pattern, doesn't look like any I've seen before so I'm curious. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

to be precise, I made that skin thanks to the documentation Ferdinando D'Amico provided me.
Ali & Colori is not bad but it wasn't totally reliable on that specific camo.
The RLM 74-75-76 camo was applied on the ANR MC205s and G55s during the spring of 1944, probably to avoid misidentifications between Germans and Italians.
The RLM pattern was somehow intepreted in an Italian fashion http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif
Here you can see some of beautiful picts from D'Amico-Valentini's collection, hosted by the 51?'s website

http://ruffini.freeweb.net/Storia_11.htm

269GA-Veltro
02-09-2005, 01:40 AM
<span class="ev_code_yellow">WIP and not official update</span>.
There some bugs again, it must be perfect.

Model by Radek-269GA~Nibbio, skin by Radek.

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP1.jpg

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP2.jpg

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP3.jpg

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP5.jpg

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/A_200_1.jpg

Ruy Horta
02-09-2005, 04:16 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:The source is "Ali e Colori" but not only. Abraxa has reworked that skin a lot of time. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I am familiar with the series, although I haven't peeked into this particular issue. The reason I asked is because I'm not familiar with the specific pattern you have applied to the top surface (it differs from the more basic one that I've seen in various sources).

Is this based on a profile or a photo (the top pattern, not sides)?

Not an attempt at criticism, just curious interest in an area I enjoy.

Have collected a number of Italian subjects, but skipped the Ali e Colori series, since they seemed to overlap with Ali d'Italia (apart from the side profiles).

The basic splinter pattern I'm talking about can be seen in Aero Detail No. 15 p. 68 three view profile, Aviolibri 1 as a kit, Ali d'Italia 10 on a G.55 kit - so none of these are to be considered as primary evidence.

BTW

Looking forward to the publishing of:

Camouflage and Markings of the Aeronautica Nazionale Republiccana, 1943-1945:
A Photographic Analysis Through Speculation and Research
by Ferdinando D'Amico, Gabriele Valentini

Hardcover 224 pages (August 2004)
Publisher: Classic Publications (Ian Allen)
ISBN: 1903223296

Which might be of great interest for those who do not read Italian (although many of these Italian books are written in both Italian and English) and are interested in the subject of ANR fighter camouflage.

LINK:
Camouflage and Markings of the Aeronautica Nazionale Republiccana (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1903223296/qid=1107947480/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_8_3/026-4499707-6037208)

269GA-Veltro
02-09-2005, 07:04 AM
Ruy i'm sorry for my bad answer, but i was waiting for an Abraxa (the skinner) answer.
You are right, probably is the first time you have seen that kinde of "splinter"...i know.

About the book, we are all waiting for:

Camouflage and Markings of the Aeronautica Nazionale Republiccana, 1943-1945:
A Photographic Analysis Through Speculation and Research
by Ferdinando D'Amico, Gabriele Valentini

http://www.tuttostoria.it/immagini/336DM022f.jpg

But as Abraxa told you, he has worked with Ferdinando D'Amico. "Ali e Colori" has been only an example, but we have never considered it as a definitive source. So what you have seen above, is probably the historical-correct C 205 splinter skin.

Box-weasel
02-09-2005, 07:06 AM
Beautiful work 269GA-Veltro!
Best wishes to you & your team for getting these into the game.

p1ngu666
02-09-2005, 07:09 AM
wubbly http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Abraxa
02-09-2005, 07:57 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ruy Horta:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:The source is "Ali e Colori" but not only. Abraxa has reworked that skin a lot of time. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Is this based on a profile or a photo (the top pattern, not sides)?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's mostly based on the photos Ferdinando D'Amico provided me. But keep in mind that this camo was applied directly "on the field", covering the old "smoke rings" camo.
Therefore, there wasn't really a protocol, and each plane was a kind of unique piece.
In the skins I made, i tried to reproduce some of this unique details, so in some cases you can see the little "military code number" popping out on the old "nocciola chiaro" basic color (lower parrt of the fuselage, behind the white strip).
The plane numbered 2-2 still carries an old painted "nocciola" canopy. This too was taken from the original picts.

DIRTY-MAC
02-09-2005, 09:45 AM
Have you seen these?
lots of paintchemes on the C 200 and all the other Italian fighters and bombers http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://wp.scn.ru/camms/archive/ww2_fighters/0040/index.shtml?32

jagdmailer
02-09-2005, 05:48 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
_<span class="ev_code_yellow">WIP and not official update_</span>.
There some bugs again, it must be perfect.

Model by Radek-269GA~Nibbio, skin by Radek.

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP1.jpg

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP2.jpg

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP3.jpg

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/MC200_WIP5.jpg

http://ourworld.cs.com/Nibbionibbio/A_200_1.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
This is just beautiful Veltro.

What are the chances of the Mc. 200, Mc 202, Mc. 205 & G.55 actually making it before Oleg's very soon to be announced end of support for FB/AEP/PF ?

Sm. 79 tri-motor bomber was left by the way side or was it part of the Harti fallout ?

Thanks again,

Jagd

Pippz_22GCT
02-09-2005, 07:08 PM
well. jagd

maybe this thread is lasted for too long =)
i mean all this hype generated by clubmed pics, when we actually don t have any real evidence about these planes in the game.

im not telling u these planes will not make their debut a day in il2 (i hope they will, or mine and all other mates works will be simply wasted), but, things are still not very clear.

i , or veltro, or any of the clubmed mates, can tell u these project were restored from the dust of an initially total wrong modelling, in the few time at our disposal we choosed to save what was saveble (luckily an help from a very kind and able chap came to raise us up a little)

at the moment we sent in russia some of the model u named, both pits than external ones, for some of them the feedback was nice... (at least they replied and continuing supportin us now=),

some models on the other hands are too **** or rehandled to be sent, i mean problably the sm79, its status is quite far to be of any use, maybe a miracle,...

the paradox thing is this thread title... where the re2001 proposed is actually a very question mark on our desks...

that s all, i hope to have make u some clearence.. at the same time i m inviting u to hope for these planes in the right way ..,

eventaully no one at maddox asked as to craft them.. no one till some week ago was supporting us (mostly cause we never asked or they were too busy) we got to repair what was done wrong in a very few time .. and maybe something is still not perfect, but we hope.. all, considering any of these planes in the game like a gift =) , but also like what do we deserve for so many nights spent front of this monitors .. (ohh .. quite pathetic =)) ..

cross your fingers mates,, and see what happens in the next dev update (maddox will have a ****-pit-modeller family to make simphaties if i don t see any pics from mine and casps mc202 pit in =))

cu

Abraxa
02-10-2005, 02:43 AM
...to sum it up. Very realistically, the most creditable candidates to be inserted in the game, presently are the MC 202, MC 205, MC 200, RE 2000.

As for the Re 2001, it all depends if Flakwalker will be able to win his race against the time... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I don't realistically believe that there will be time for the SM 79 (but it's just my opinion).

G55 could be a surprise, but it's a hard guess as well.

Tooz_69GIAP
02-10-2005, 11:23 AM
Well, that list of aircraft would be absolutely immense!!!!! 4 front line high powered fighter aircraft from one nation, and from different periods of the war, it really makes you think what can be done in terms of missions, and scenarios, and online wars, etc.

A whole new side to the axis conflict will be opening, and the allied side also as MC 202 and 205s were used on the allied side after 1943. Some 205 on 205 action would be interesting!!

pdog1
02-10-2005, 05:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Some 205 on 205 action would be interesting!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually this never happened but Mc202/205 of allies vs Me 109s of JG77. We do not want italians fighting italians. So the italian allied co-belligerent air force flew missions against the germans in yugoslavia/eastern med, while the Axis ANR flew against the american heavy bombers and fighters, so the two italian forces did not face each other. But yeah agree with your post alot of new stuff to be tried out... would be awsome but..

269GA-Veltro
02-11-2005, 08:07 AM
We didn't know...but ICAF and A.N.R. pilots probably had never fought each others. If yes...is probably top secret. Sincerely i don't know..

As Pdog said, ICAF flew in yugoslavia/eastern med, while A.N.R. flew in the North East of Italy.

About the ICAF C 205, the Allied changed that birds very soon vith Spitifre Mark Vb/t and P39. For the italian pilots who fought with C 205, P39 was a real tragedy.
They say..."P39 was good because when you crash...sometimes you could save your life thank to its strong structure"...but off course fly the C 205 was a dream in front of an Aircobra.

EJGrOst_Caspar
02-11-2005, 02:27 PM
To keep that thread up and interesting:

http://www.il2sturmovik.it/pippz/mc205.jpg


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

269GA-Veltro
02-12-2005, 02:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EJGrOst_Caspar:
To keep that thread up and interesting:

http://www.il2sturmovik.it/pippz/mc205.jpg


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He he.....Macchi C 205 cockpit.

Great work Caspar!!!

As you can see, not only the italians are working on this project. Caspar is the skinner of all our cockpits...THE SKINNER....and he's a member of the German community; Jutocsa is from Hungary and Flakwalker from Argentina.

Be patient, reinforcments are coming...we hope also with "some" 20mm. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

jagdmailer
02-12-2005, 04:26 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 269GA-Veltro:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by EJGrOst_Caspar:
To keep that thread up and interesting:

http://www.il2sturmovik.it/pippz/mc205.jpg


http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

He he.....Macchi C 205 cockpit.

Great work Caspar!!!

As you can see, not only the italians are working on this project. Caspar is the skinner of all our cockpits...THE SKINNER....and he's a member of the German community; Jutocsa is from Hungary and Flakwalker from Argentina.

Be patient, reinforcments are coming...we hope also with "some" 20mm. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Fantastic effort guys!

Thanks a lot.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Jagd

269GA-Veltro
02-13-2005, 03:56 AM
Already posted by Abraxa in the other topic...but...

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/8350/125.jpg

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/7691/126.jpg

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/9338/127.jpg

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/4571/128.jpg

http://img217.exs.cx/img217/8903/124.jpg

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/7472/53wn.jpg

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/518/a8in.jpg

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/3314/b4as.jpg

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/8799/c2mh.jpg

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/2374/d4ni.jpg

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/1593/e6to.jpg

http://img207.exs.cx/img207/3816/f4xq.jpg

p1ngu666
02-13-2005, 09:35 AM
u just love that noseart or unit logo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

269GA-Veltro
02-13-2005, 11:30 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by p1ngu666:
u just love that noseart or unit logo http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LoL you know it! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

"Red devils" today, 6? Stormo (Wing) Ghedi air base....the same air base of WW2 years.

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/diavolirossi/Ghedi13.jpg

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/diavolirossi/Ghedi06.jpg

http://members.xoom.virgilio.it/diavolirossi/Ghedi03.jpg

Ruy Horta
02-16-2005, 02:24 AM
Good to see that the Italian AF is still keeping alive some of its original Squadron art, saw more nice examples on that site your "linked".

dadada1
02-24-2005, 06:02 AM
All of the work done on these planes is of an exceptional standard and thanks to evryone that has had a part in it. My only question is, are we ever going to see these in IL2? I've not been keeping up to date with the latest events so apologies if this has been answered somwhere else. It's a war crime if they are not included.

Abraxa
02-24-2005, 11:50 AM
I'm very, very confident we will have several of them. I cannot speak for the 1C, but I'm quite optimistic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Mc 202 and 205 are already completely in Oleg's hands (external and cockpits).
G55, Re 2000 and MC 200 externals are done and approved, and the cockpits are close to be completed.
If we're lucky enough, Flakwalker will make it with his wonderful Re 2001. Some parts of the cockpit and of the external are under rework.

p1ngu666
02-24-2005, 12:01 PM
need these beautiful planes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

dadada1
02-24-2005, 12:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abraxa:
I'm very, very confident we will have several of them. I cannot speak for the 1C, but I'm quite optimistic http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Mc 202 and 205 are already completely in Oleg's hands (external and cockpits).
G55, Re 2000 and MC 200 externals are done and approved, and the cockpits are close to be completed.
If we're lucky enough, Flakwalker will make it with his wonderful Re 2001. Some parts of the cockpit and of the external are under rework. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks Abraxa, thats very good news, these are a glaring omission from IL2, Im very much looking forward to taking the controls of the MC202, 205. Yes they are beauties pingu, also a nice change being able to fly some more modern Italian fighters. Their inclusion will open up of new scenarios,they're very welcome.

kaidanovskij
02-28-2005, 09:55 AM
no more pics of those reggianes, fiat, macchis? I'm looking forward to see and fly them!!! any idea about CR.32, can u post some pics?

http://digilander.libero.it/TheStalker/KAIDA10.jpg

Foxtrot-Hotel
03-01-2005, 07:02 AM
Great work you did there guys, and I'm hoping for a MC 202 since early sturmovik, but I have a question...when you talk about bugs in the model, which kind of bugs are these??(I'm no expert, so in easy words pleas...) thanks in advance...

269GA-Veltro
03-01-2005, 07:39 AM
CR 32 has been a nice surprise for all, but it will be probably only an AI as Oleg said.

For the other models, we are working on the cockpits to complete them ASAP and waiting for the Re 2001.

BTW we cannot speak for the 1C, so be patient (few time agian) and please wait for an official update. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

p1ngu666
03-01-2005, 10:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Foxtrot-Hotel:
Great work you did there guys, and I'm hoping for a MC 202 since early sturmovik, but I have a question...when you talk about bugs in the model, which kind of bugs are these??(I'm no expert, so in easy words pleas...) thanks in advance... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

normaly, its the way the model is put together, to make a plane model is relitivly easy, but to make it how its needed in engine, that is very hard..

Foxtrot-Hotel
03-01-2005, 10:39 AM
thanks for the answer pingu...I still hope for every It. plane to be added....

269GA-Veltro
03-02-2005, 09:18 AM
I've got it today in Italy, so it should be available also in the other countries. The publisher is from England, and the book is all in english.

http://www.tuttostoria.it/immagini/336DM022f.jpg

The book is very interesting and i hope it could have a good success, D'Amico has given us a great support with the historical A.N.R. skin.

p1ngu666
03-02-2005, 09:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Foxtrot-Hotel:
thanks for the answer pingu...I still hope for every It. plane to be added.... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

dont we all? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

nice @ book http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Dragon66
03-02-2005, 11:04 PM
MMMMM... more planes.

Homer Simpson on FB/PF.

Dragon66 out.

269GA-Veltro
03-14-2005, 02:29 AM
We are almost ready for the russian front...i hope: from Caspar on Netwings the C 200 Cockpit.

http://www.netwings.org/dcforum/DCForumID43/1391.html

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/Mc200/mc200c.jpg

http://people.freenet.de/warbirds2/Mc200/mc200f.jpg

ImpStarDuece
03-14-2005, 04:25 AM
*thunk*

Sound of my jaw hitting floor


We're gonna get the Italains, we're gonna get the Italains, we're gonna get the Italains!

I can wait to get my glutemus maximus handed to me in a Macci or Reggiani. Its going to be so GOOD http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Trozoba
03-14-2005, 02:28 PM
Pls OLEG!lets include this planes, is a good work and your sim is the best in world because is in continuous upgrade by people who love IL-2

Flydutch
03-16-2005, 03:42 AM
I must Agree With Lex Luthor That The News that there will be A Mediterenean Sim after BOB is very good News!!!
To have this popular MTO Theather featured In the new Machine is worth waiting for!

Althoug Med Fans have been waiting in vain since the first poll from the Original IL-2 Sturmovik already!

In the mean time it would be good if something like A MTO (Mediterenean Theather of Operations, I presume)website would form up all the loose Med/ north African orientated squdrons & fans
Like Squads from; Italy Regia Aeronautica, Germany JG27 JG77 JG53 Stukas, Zerstoerer & Kampf Gruppe, Yugoslavia, Greece, Malta, GreatBrittany & Common Wealth, Raf, Raaf, Rnzaf, SaaF & FAA, United States USAAF & CV's (Tuskegee Airman), Brazil (Senta pua) France (Free French & South of France)

Speziallised A/C squads or fans for B-25, A-20, P-40, P-47, P-51, Beaufighter, Hurricane, Spit, Gladiator, Kittyhawks, All Italian A/C, Luftwaffe's Bf110, Bf109, FW190, Hs162, He111, Ju88 & ofcourse Ju87 Stuka!

There is already A Med Dedicated site created for the B-25 groups who operated from Italy.

'Club Med' Is there A site of this Intersting Group that somethimes show up & Disapear?

Particular Interseting Operations for the MTO The Balkans, Ploesti air raid (wich ended in N Africa) Egypt, Tunesia, Iraq, Crete, Malta, Sicily The D-Day's for Italy & France, Monte Cassino & Rome.
There is plenty of Anti-shipping, Recon & Ground Attack Ops in the MTO!

Who is In for A MTO Webring?

Unite & Fight for the Med!

pdog1
03-20-2005, 02:55 PM
BUMP! If Reggianes, Macchis and Fiat G55 aren't in 4.0 i think i will kill my self.

Abraxa
03-20-2005, 04:39 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pdog1:
BUMP! If Reggianes, Macchis and Fiat G55 aren't in 4.0 i think i will kill my self. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

ssssstttt!!!!
After some of your memorable posts, Oleg might be tempted.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

pdog1
03-20-2005, 05:40 PM
Well i guess its my fault, new book came in the mail yesterday, Reggiane fighters in action squadron signal number 177, a very good book with pictures and good operation history makes me want to fly re2001 and kill spit V so bad

jagdmailer
03-25-2005, 10:15 AM
Bump

Jagd

Sharkey888
03-25-2005, 02:29 PM
I hope at least this will be flyable http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/norman888/mc202hflight.jpg

Abraxa
03-25-2005, 03:28 PM
it will be, for sure http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/3163/14mj.jpg

pdog1
03-25-2005, 06:35 PM
Abraxa you need to make Tarantola's "Dai Banana!" 202 please because i just bought this

http://www.danzoernig.com/illustrations/galleryDetails34.asp

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

269GA-Veltro
03-26-2005, 03:44 AM
Pdog some other skins by Abraxa...waiting for the "our" Mark Vc. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

C 202 III SERIE
http://i158.exs.cx/img158/8223/13vv1.jpg

C 202 XII SERIE
http://i158.exs.cx/img158/811/b1nr.jpg

<span class="ev_code_yellow">Not an official update of course.</span>

Abraxa
03-26-2005, 05:51 AM
Hi Pdog, I already painted Ennio Tarantola's 202 skin, together with the 202's skin of his C.O, Niclot Doglio http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/6913/17ie.jpg

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/9330/24qd.jpg

BBB_Hyperion
03-26-2005, 06:13 AM
Great work guys http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Hopefully we can see some of the planes in the next patch.

After reading some more about italian planes cant wait to fly them special the late war ones http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Abraxa
03-26-2005, 06:43 AM
Hi Martin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

JG77 used the C205s for quite some time, as you probably know.

http://p069.ezboard.com/fluftwaffeexperten71774frm57.showMessage?topicID=1 0.topic

...and btw I already painted that LW 205 skin http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

pdog1
03-26-2005, 10:02 AM
ewww nasty black cross on italian ac is blasphemy does not look good, nazis want to fly our better macchis tired of volkswagon lol

jagdmailer
03-26-2005, 03:31 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Abraxa:
Hi Pdog, I already painted Ennio Tarantola's 202 skin, together with the 202's skin of his C.O, Niclot Doglio http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/6913/17ie.jpg

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/9330/24qd.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks much guys!!!

Jagd

p1ngu666
03-26-2005, 03:46 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pdog1:
ewww nasty black cross on italian ac is blasphemy does not look good, nazis want to fly our better macchis tired of volkswagon lol <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
indeed http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

Sharkey888
03-26-2005, 04:46 PM
I had really hoped that flying this would also be possible-including the CA310/311's.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v638/norman888/mc200.bmp

pdog1
03-26-2005, 06:23 PM
caproni ww2 planes = ****, ugly, slow etc..
GIVE ME MACCHI, REGGIANE FIAT G55 OR GIVE ME DEAHTH
4.0 4.0 4.0 4.04 .40 TWO WEEKS

Aeronautico
03-26-2005, 10:40 PM
Please pdog try and endure a bit longer: I doubt they'll (all) be in the next patch...

We'd miss ya! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

pdog1
03-27-2005, 10:27 AM
Endure? I'm master of endurance i have been waiting to fly macchis since dynamix canceled Desert Fighters like 4 years ago. I try to fly Fiat G50 in Macchi C200 colors of 22 gruppo on eastern front but its no use because Macchi C200 is better performer than porked G50.
And having Macchi C202 as AI but not flyable for so long hurts, sometimes i fly missions with italian 109s flying alongside Mc202 and see them turn inside Spitfires where i can only energy fight them ahah.

TheGozr
03-27-2005, 10:50 AM
Awesome work this is what i'm talking about great cockpit but begacareful not to add to much dirty windows...

pdog1
03-28-2005, 10:13 PM
Bump + new pics from Jerry Boucher

http://www.x-plane.org/home/pdog109/re2k1_desktop.jpg

http://www.x-plane.org/home/pdog109/c200vii_desktop.jpg

IO VOGLIO, NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!

269GA-Veltro
03-29-2005, 01:54 AM
Hooo Pdog! Thank a lot for those pics!!! The 2001 is really amazing!!

For the C 200....a nice skin by Caspar. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://ourworld.cs.com/VeltroF/Pacific+Fighters/Macchi+C+200.JPG

269GA-Veltro
03-29-2005, 03:46 AM
It's coming!!! "THE ENEMY" is coming!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/eurobo/hamilton.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v226/eurobo/beurling.jpg

NAFP_supah
03-29-2005, 05:02 AM
Out of curiousity, how is the mapping on the tail of that spit? Is it "warped"?

p1ngu666
03-29-2005, 06:00 AM
cool pics http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

starfighter1
03-29-2005, 01:10 PM
hi,
agree at all
but first the develpoper should fix/redesign or program a new games camera view to virtual pilots view.
All the fine works and design of third party is waste of time to this 'wrong'forward issues of view in the running game-sim .
Sorry ... above great work http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif ... but wrong (gnomish )pilot normal view because of this bad old forecast of IL-2/FB camera view design http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

It's time or a chance to reprogram this either BoB is knocking at the door or not http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Atzebrueck:
Great work http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif ...

I wish the developers would communicate with us "freetime-modelers" a bit more frequent. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

pdog1
03-30-2005, 06:38 PM
Veltro?! Ma dove hai trovato questo screenshots dell Spit? Good! At least they have made Spit Va trop and not only c so we don't have to deal with that 4 cannon armed monster which hardly ever flew with 4 cannon flew with 2!! And the 2nd spit looks like a Malta bird for sure?! MALTA MAP? LOL NO