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VF-10_Snacky
10-04-2004, 11:40 PM
He was my favorite of the Mercury 7.

LOS ANGELES(AP) Gordon Cooper, who was the youngest and perhaps cockiest member of the original seven Mercury astronauts and set the space endurance record that helped clear the way for the first moon landing, has died. He was 77.

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/features/cooper_obit.html

VF-10_Snacky
10-04-2004, 11:40 PM
He was my favorite of the Mercury 7.

LOS ANGELES(AP) Gordon Cooper, who was the youngest and perhaps cockiest member of the original seven Mercury astronauts and set the space endurance record that helped clear the way for the first moon landing, has died. He was 77.

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/features/cooper_obit.html

lil_labbit
10-05-2004, 12:05 AM
Read it on Orbiter forum http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

God Speed to him...

Bearcat99
10-05-2004, 04:49 AM
Wow...... I remember.

NTESLA
10-05-2004, 06:35 AM
S!

May he finaly reach his final frontier as he has tried with the stars. He will be missed.

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/TECH/space/10/04/gordon.cooper/story.cooper.bw.nasa.jpg
Gordon Cooper
1927-2004


His life inspired many and on this same day we all can be witnessed to this with Space Ship One and it's small band of dreamers making their dreams into a reality :


http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2004/TECH/space/10/04/spaceshipone.attempt.cnn/top.ssone.flag.ap.jpg

p1ngu666
10-05-2004, 06:43 AM
end of a era, start of another http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

he is flying among the stars right now, be sure http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

gates123
10-05-2004, 01:09 PM
Colonel L. Gordon Cooper, Mercury-9, Gemini-5 Astronaut, Addressing a United Nations Panel Discussion on UFOs and ETs in New York in 1985. The panel was chaired by then Secretary-General Kurt Waldheim.

"I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets which obviously are a little more technically advanced than we are here on Earth. I feel that we need to have a top level, coordinated program to scientifically collect and analyze data from all over the earth concerning any type of encounter, and to determine how best to interface with these visitors in a friendly fashion. We may first have to show them that we have learned to resolve our problems by peaceful means, rather than warfare, before we are accepted as fully qualified universal team members. This acceptance would have tremendous possibilities of advancing our world in all areas. Certainly then it would seem that the UN has a vested interest in handling this subject properly and expeditiously.

For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists and astronauts. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us.

And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public.

Why? Because the authorities are afraid that people may think of some kind of horrible invaders. So the password still is: We have to avoid panic by all means."

In another interview he said:

"As far as I am concerned, there have been too many unexplained examples of UFO sightings around this Earth for us to rule out the possibilities that some form of life exists out there beyond our own world."

And in an exclusive interview with the National Enquirer on 14 January 1997, Cooper speaks openly about alien spacecraft. He says there's been a massive government cover-up of UFOs for nearly 50 years and insists the American public has a right to know the truth.

"I know other astronauts share my feelings," declared Cooper, 69, who went into space aboard a Mercury craft in 1963 and on a Gemini craft two years later.

"And we know the government is sitting on hard evidence of UFOs!"

Cooper said he first encountered UFOs as a military pilot in Germany in the early 1950s, when unidentified craft were spotted over an air base.

"We thought they could have been Russian. We regularly had MiG-15s overflying our base. We scrambled ourSabre jets to intercept and got to our ceiling of 45,000 feet . . . and they were still way above us traveling faster than we were.

"These vehicles were in formation like a fighter group, but they were metallic silver and saucer-shaped. Believe me, they weren't like any MiGs I'd seen before! They had to be UFOs."

In 1957, Cooper was one of an elite band of test pilots at Edwards Air Force Base in California, in charge of several advanced projects, including the installation of a precision landing system.

"I had a camera crew filming the installation when they spotted a saucer. They filmed it as it flew overhead, then hovered, extended three legs as landing gear, and slowly came down to land on a dry lake bed!

"These guys were all pro cameramen, so the picture quality was very good. "The camera crew managed to get within 20 or 30 yards of it,filming all the time. It was a classic saucer, shiny silver and smooth, about 30 feet across. It was pretty clear it was an alien craft.

"As they approached closer it took off."

When his camera crew handed over the film, Cooper followed standard procedure and contacted Washington to report the UFO and "all heck broke loose," he said.

"After a while a high-ranking officer said when the film was developed I was to put it in a pouch and send it to Washington.

"He didn't say anything about me not looking at the film. That's what I did when it came back from the lab and it was all there just like the camera crew reported."

When the Air Force later started Operation Blue Book to collate UFO evidence and reports, Cooper says he mentioned the film evidence.

"But the film was never found supposedly. Blue Book was strictly a cover-up anyway."

Cooper revealed he's convinced an alien craft crashed at Roswell, N. Mex., in 1947 and aliens were discovered in the wreckage.

"I had a good friend at Roswell, a fellow officer. He had to be careful about what he said. But it sure wasn't a weather balloon, like the Air Force cover story. He made it clear to me what crashed was a craft of alien origin, and members of the crew were recovered."

Why has the government kept its UFO secrets for so many years?

"It started in World War 2, when the government didn't want people to know about UFO reports in case they panicked," said Cooper. "They would have been fearful it was superior enemy technology that we had no defense against.

"Then it got worse in the Cold War for the same reason.

"So they told one untruth, they had to tell another to cover that one, then another, then another...it just snowballed.

"And right now I'm convinced a lot of very embarrassed government officials are sitting there in Washington trying to figure a way to bring the truth out. They know it's got to come out one day, and I'm sure it will.

"America has a right to know!"



Captain Edgar D. Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut, 1971

"We all know that UFOs are real. All we need to ask is where do they come from?"

________________________________________________

S! to the one of two astronauts that has enough guts to publicly admit that UFO's are extraterrestrial spacecraft. If it was anyone else they would have been fired and publicly reticuled. The world lost a brave man.

T_O_A_D
10-05-2004, 01:34 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif God speed!

BfHeFwMe
10-05-2004, 03:29 PM
OMNI: Aren't you concerned about the reaction of people who may
read this?

COOPER: I've always been honest about my views on this subject.
Because the astronauts have been so badly misquoted by irresponsible
journalists, it's up to each of us to say what he believes in. I'm
engaged in a lawsuit against people who used my name for a
commercial venture, quoting me to the effect that I'm dedicated to
forcing the government to tell the truth about UFOs. I never said
that at all. If any UFO information is being suppressed, it's
certainly not in the U.S. Air Force, because I was at a high enough
level to know about it.

gates123
10-05-2004, 03:57 PM
Cooper also authored the 2000 book "Leap of Faith," in which he discussed NASA's early days, his experiences on the Mercury and Gemini missions and his belief in extraterrestrial intelligence. Cooper in the book said that as an Air Force pilot in 1951 that he chased UFOs while based in Germany.

______________________________________________


I have read his book and be sure he does stand by his claims. There is much disinformation about this subject.

BfHeFwMe
10-05-2004, 04:05 PM
His book is a bit under the gun, rusty memory perhaps.

http://www.starport.com/sciencefiction/phenomena/cooper_questioned_000929.html

gates123
10-05-2004, 04:13 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BfHeFwMe:
OMNI: Aren't you concerned about the reaction of people who may
read this?

COOPER: I've always been honest about my views on this subject.Because the astronauts have been so badly misquoted by irresponsible
journalists, it's up to each of us to say what he believes in. I'm engaged in a lawsuit against people who used my name for a
commercial venture, quoting me to the effect that I'm dedicated to forcing the government to tell the truth about UFOs. I never said
that at all. If any UFO information is being suppressed, it's certainly not in the U.S. Air Force, because I was at a high enough
level to know about it. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>



Comon BfHeFwMe don't turn this into a nightly news soundbite where the facts can get "lost". I'll post the whole interview.
_______________________________________________


Excerpt of interview with Gordon Cooper: OMNI, March 1980, p. 106


OMNI: What about the repeated allegations that the astronauts saw many UFOs?

COOPER: It got so bad that there were deliberately falsified tapes of communications with the astronauts, where UFO material was simply edited in. To my knowledge, the only astronaut on any of the Mercury, Gemini, or Apollo missions who ever saw anything that might have been a UFO was Jim McDivitt, but he didn't get enough pictures to prove anything substantial. That's the only case, in spite of all the stories you hear.

OMNI: Didn't you go after some UFOs as an air force pilot in Germany in the 1950s?

COOPER: Yes, several days in a row we sighted groups of metallic, saucer-shaped vehicles at great altitudes over the base, and we tried to get close to them, but they were able to change direction faster than our fighters. I do believe UFOs exists and that the truly unexplained ones are from some other technologically advanced civilization. From my association with aircraft and spacecraft, I think I have a pretty good idea of what everyone on this planet has and their performance capabilities, and I'm sure some of the UFOs at least are not from anywhere on Earth.

OMNI: Aren't you concerned about the reaction of people who may read this?

COOPER: I've always been honest about my views on this subject. Because the astronauts have been so badly misquoted by irresponsible journalists, it's up to each of us to say what he believes in. I'm engaged in a lawsuit against people who used my name for a commercial venture, quoting me to the effect that I'm dedicated to forcing the government to tell the truth about UFOs. I never said that at all. If any UFO information is being suppressed, it's certainly not in the U.S. Air Force, because I was at a high enough level to know about it.

In defense of the military attitude, I can't really blame them for being negative when I consider ridiculous things that have been said and written and the fact that the military is responsible for national security. It's a little embarrassing to acknowledge they can't explain some things.

OMNI: ...Are people psychologically ready to face it if UFOs should prove to be manned by visiting aliens?

COOPER: People want to know what's going on in the world around them, and I think they're prepared for the truth, whatever it is. A lot of people don't believe anything about UFOs because of the absurd treatises that have come out on the subject. And a lot of people are afraid of the unknown. But the more we know, the greater the likelihood of treating UFOs in a friendly fashion

gates123
10-05-2004, 04:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BfHeFwMe:
His book is a bit under the gun, rusty memory perhaps.

http://www.starport.com/sciencefiction/phenomena/cooper_questioned_000929.html <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


First of all the incident in in question happened in 1957. Nasa wasn't formed till 1958 so it just another debunker at work.

woofiedog
10-05-2004, 10:37 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif God Bless! America will Miss him.

Jasko76
10-06-2004, 12:39 AM
God speed Gordo!

However, I don't believe in aliens. I mean, obviously, there must be other civilizations beyond our little blue planet, but I doubt they will ever visit us or vice versa. Distances are so vast that it would take some serious bending of physical laws to cover such vast distances.
Even if we could travel at the speed of light, it would still take centuries to reach our friends in space. Unless we build a nice starship a la USS Enterprise!

Warping space and utilizing wormholes is the answer. All we got to do is figure out how. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

gates123
10-06-2004, 10:25 AM
Gordo's "belief" in Extraterrestrial life stems from his experiences as a pilot and what he saw. If he says he's seen things in the sky that he thinks are not from this planet then who are we to deny his knowledge of flight characteristics. Just because we as humans dont have the capacity to travel through the vast distances in space does not mean another civilization hasnt developed the technology 1000 or maybe a million years ago. The subject has nothing to do with a belief system but is directly linked to a physical tangible experience either in the sky or near the ground.

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-06-2004, 11:12 AM
Agreed Gate.

I can also remember watching these Brave men stretching the boundaries of our world as a child. They truly had "The right Stuff"

gates123
10-06-2004, 02:31 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/10/04/gordon.cooper/index.html

Jasko76
10-07-2004, 04:52 AM
Guys, I'm not saying that Gordo didn't see these objects, it's just that chances of him actually observing some sort of ET activity are minimal. If ETs really visited our planet, I'm pretty sure we'd all know it by now. It's a major stuff!

gates123
10-07-2004, 09:51 AM
I agree Jasko you can't come up with a bigger story but if you read my first post closely Gordo explains clearly why the information is being surpressed and why its not on the front page of your newspaper.

Copperhead310th
10-07-2004, 03:13 PM
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S!~ Sir.

"For here
Am I sitting in a tin can
Far above the world
Planet Earth is blue
And there's nothing I can do

Though I'm past one hundred thousand miles
I'm feeling very still
And I think my spaceship knows which way to go
Tell my wife I love her very much she knows" -David Bowie