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muHamad-ALi
10-12-2004, 10:27 PM
Please nominate top pilots found in the multiplayer arena of il2: forgotten battles.
Coops, Ubi, virtual wars, and hyperlobby are all fair game.

muHamad-ALi
10-12-2004, 10:27 PM
Please nominate top pilots found in the multiplayer arena of il2: forgotten battles.
Coops, Ubi, virtual wars, and hyperlobby are all fair game.

F0_Dark_P
10-12-2004, 10:42 PM
oh that can be hard there is so many good pilots, but should i name one or two i think it would be my squad mateshttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif, F19_Orheim is i good ace tohttp://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

-HH-Quazi
10-12-2004, 11:07 PM
Well, he doesn't frequent those places too often any longer, but my vote will have to go to LuckyBoy. I have personally, along with the squad members of -HH-, watched him desimate the enemy all by his lonesome, human or AI. He is a one man escort service for us lowly JABO pilots. Eh, I might be stretching it a bit. In online campaigns, he is a one man escort flight. I've watched him take on 16 AI and live to talk about it, with 16 kills in one mission. I kid you not.

Korolov
10-12-2004, 11:38 PM
There are so many virtual pilots going through my head, I can't even choose one... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

altstiff
10-13-2004, 01:05 AM
I'll go first.

RBJ!

VFA-195 Snacky
10-13-2004, 01:22 AM
no need to name any, I'm sure a few will be here to represent themselves soon.lol

crazyivan1970
10-13-2004, 01:42 AM
I know one...and it`s not me http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-13-2004, 06:23 AM
I know a few...and none of them are me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

Bearcat99
10-13-2004, 06:26 AM
There are many..... a few in this thread who are being modest.... 361st_Eagle comes to my mind.... 54th Kiewo is a killer in a Jug... so many..

MEGILE
10-13-2004, 07:06 AM
LeadSpitter kicks ar$e in the P-51D and BF-109G2. be sure.

Chuck_Older
10-13-2004, 08:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by altstiff:
I'll go first.

RBJ! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

RBJ's unibrow is a better pilot than I am

F19_Ob
10-13-2004, 12:43 PM
SRY....Have no clue who the best is and must admit it has no importance to me, but I might know who the most generous is http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif (most probably among the better aswell).


I would like to add tha..............[F19_ob has been disconnected from game]

SlickStick
10-13-2004, 12:54 PM
Interesting subject and usually someone's ego in disguise posts this question every so often. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

My true opinion, only a controlled LAN environment can be used to truly assess online skill, as there are sooooo many ways to manipulate this game online. Be sure.

However, as it would be nearly impossible to get all of the Top Pilots in one area for this type of competition, there will always be a shadow of doubt on that Ace who always seems to have a certain twitch, slide, roll, warp, lag to his online performance. 99% of the time only in the defensive position, lol.

gurypuddle
10-13-2004, 01:42 PM
I nominate Bun-Bun1953. He once shot down that "Jimmy Giro" guy and that's good enough for me! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

GP

Korolov
10-13-2004, 01:45 PM
Yeah, but I've shot down JimmyGiro a couple of times, so what?

Jimmy owns most of the time anyways. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/mockface.gif

gurypuddle
10-13-2004, 01:48 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Korolov:
Yeah, but I've shot down JimmyGiro a couple of times, so what?

Your not just sayin that are you? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

El Turo
10-13-2004, 02:40 PM
http://www.kieranchapman.net/ewire/winter2000/featured/supergreg2.jpg

The Numbah One?

PBNA-Boosher
10-13-2004, 04:34 PM
Well, I consider myself an Ace bomber pilot! I don't believe I've ever missed a target in an online coop, even if it meant my plane's destruction and having to bail out.

But as for best fighter pilot.... dunno really.

RedDeth
10-13-2004, 08:30 PM
ive only met one pilot that i consider completely untouchable online under pit on AND pit off.


ONLY ONE.

RAYBANJOCKEY !!

HART_dreyer
10-13-2004, 08:34 PM
Anyone can be beat given the right circumstances.

Atomic_Marten
10-13-2004, 08:41 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HART_dreyer:
Anyone can be beat given the right circumstances. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Absolutely true. No surprise there. Geez thousands of players are playing this game... and naming few of them to be the best is just childish.

BaldieJr
10-13-2004, 11:18 PM
As an Ace who can score at will, I have to give myself a bit of credit as one of the best looking players in the community.

I'd venture to say that I could easily whip any WWII Ace and steal his gal, if I felt like it.

SonOfTheBeach69
10-14-2004, 02:51 AM
FB_VikS
FB_Storm
CSL_Kocour

There's just no hope against them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

VR_ZOO1
10-14-2004, 10:27 AM
No need to look anymore here he is http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v32/_VR_ZOO1/Snoopy.gif

TX-Monguse
10-14-2004, 10:56 AM
I can tell you that it's impossible to distinguish the "best" pilot. All I know are the pilots I have encountered that defy getting shot down: (there are more but I can't remember)

Edited by TX-Monguse...
[BTW: This lists represents pilots that fly the same settings I do. FR hard (no map no speedbar no enemy icons) or soft FR (map, speedbar and enemy icons) settings.]

JV44-Rall
JV44-Fehler
TX-EcoDragon
FB_VikS
FB_Storm
JimmyGiro
A couple of the Ross squad I can't remember.
Some of the =TgD= guys, some are not in any squads.

Regardless of the fact that any one person might be better that others to me is not important. That I can find excellent sportsmanship with the pilots I mentioned above as well as others in the community is more important to me than to single out one virtual pilot.

RedDeth
10-14-2004, 11:04 AM
hey thats ME !!!

RedDeth
10-14-2004, 11:05 AM
Highlander...............


THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE

SlickStick
10-14-2004, 11:08 AM
I think the coolest thing about these threads, is seeing a list of flyers that a person perceives as being the best and seeing names of flyers you've personally thrashed soundly. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

AFJ_Locust
10-14-2004, 12:14 PM
Ill Nominate AFJ_Mantis

I once seen him take out 3 Pilots all alone in a Fightersweeps match. He was in a total disadvantage Situation he somehow turned the tables & won the match for us with some amazing flying & manuvers & the three guys he beat are no noobs.

There are only a few as good as Mantis as far as dfing goes.

AFJ_Locust
10-14-2004, 12:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
I think the coolest thing about these threads, is seeing a list of flyers that a person _perceives_ as being the best and seeing names of flyers you've personally thrashed soundly. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

hahahahah

Ya I rember plucking your feathers a few times SS ! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SlickStick
10-14-2004, 12:21 PM
Sadly, attacking an engaged pilot means nothing, lol, as in the last time you claimed victory and ran from the server promptly thereafter, lol.

1 vs 1 and RD and you go down faster than $5.00 HOs. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

However, let's not turn this into a bashing thread as I got sooooo much entertainment from your latest "competition".

- Overflew against the scrubbie squads to offset you losses to the 663rd.

- Cried like babies after losing to them.

Some competition squad, eh? LMFAO!!!!

The really, really cool part? How RD and you are my Forum Monkeys. I know exactly what to post to get y'all to come arunnin' with bananas in hand. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

AFJ_Locust
10-14-2004, 12:29 PM
Ill catch you in HL sometime Slick !

After I killed you the first 2 times you shoulda figured id be back, whered I find you the 3rd time...??? Turning & burning on the deck with Noobs. Muahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah

Foolish Mortal !!!

eeeee
eeeee
eeeee

Korolov
10-14-2004, 12:37 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gurypuddle:
Your not just sayin that are you? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jimmy is a great pilot, but that doesn't mean he's got a head that can pivot 360 degrees...

Dreyer has it spot on - anyone can be beat, given the right circumstances.

SlickStick
10-14-2004, 12:47 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AFJ_Locust:
Ill catch you in HL sometime Slick !

After I killed you the first 2 times you shoulda figured id be back, whered I find you the 3rd time...??? Turning & burning on the deck with Noobs. Muahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah

Foolish Mortal !!!

eeeee
eeeee
eeeee <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The difference between you and I, Locust, is that I don't have to run and climb away from a turn fight.

I'm on the deck because out-turning people is my specialty. The day I have to be a B and Z pilot, usually attacking engaged pilots to get victories, will be the day I uninstall this game from my PC. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Oh, and just because you're fun, I'll make it a point to stop by soon. It's been awhile since I've gotten my kicks taking down an obnoxiously over-confident AFJ 1 vs 1. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

HART_dreyer
10-14-2004, 01:04 PM
Haha Slick,

So you're saying it is cheap to use proper and intelligent tactics because you don't know how? It reminds me of a fellow I once 1on1€ed on a map where you take off simultaneously. He refused to fly anything but the Yak-3P so I picked a K4. We took off and he just kept turning on the deck while I was at 1000-2000 meters making attacks. When he got shot down he complained about me flying so high and how my tactics where so easy and cheap to do. I offered to switch aircraft (him K4 me Yak) but he refused. Ignorance is bliss, huh?

SlickStick
10-14-2004, 01:08 PM
"So you're saying it is cheap to use proper and intelligent tactics because you don't know how?"

All should fly to the strengths of their plane.

IMO, B and Z takes minimal skill when compared to out-turning. I know how to B and z just fine...just find it extremely boring is all. Why should I wait around up there for a kill, when I can go down there and out-turn them and be ready for the next bogey? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

In my experience, most usually become B and Z pilots because they can't turn and are petrified of getting shot down and looking bad online. Not the other way around. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

My B and Z counter is quite good, too. As I've been flying against them for 4 years and have seen nothing but B and Z...lol.

HART_dreyer
10-14-2004, 01:15 PM
B&Z has no counter tactic. However, I rarely B&Z, I use energy tactics. Boom and Zoom is the strictest tactic that requires an immense amount of discipline and patience, more than I have.

Energy tactics is simply the concept of making sure your enemy does not have enough energy to hit you while you can attack at will.

SlickStick
10-14-2004, 01:39 PM
"B&Z has no counter tactic."

Um, every tactic has a counter. To think otherwise would be foolish on my bogey's part. The interesting thing about effective B and Z is the need for excellent gunnery.

Most I see use this tactic are not very good shooters and if I escape a B and Zer with no damage and he eventually climbs away to go run and land after his ammo is gone, that is what I call an effective counter to B and Z as well. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I've been known to keep a B and Zer occupied for over an hour while my M8s have their way. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Intruder_GP
10-14-2004, 01:45 PM
It all depends on the situation, server settings, connection, hight advantage and the opponet. If you have this situational awarness you can take on any pilot and beat them http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

56th BMAC
10-14-2004, 01:55 PM
There are a few really good P-47 drivers out there, but I'm biased...

(56th)`BARON: Excellent tactician, teacher, and wingie. Generally makes those who fly with him better.

(56th)`SHVAK: Kills everything in sight. If you're not in sight, he'll find you and then kill you.

And this was before the P-47 and its guns were de-porked.

SlickStick
10-14-2004, 01:58 PM
"It all depends on the situation, server settings, connection, hight advantage and the opponet. If you have this situational awarness you can take on any pilot and beat them."

Good comment, Intruder.

My list of importance for a combat pilot in this game is:

#1 - Gunnery - All the maneuvering in the world won't get me squat, if I can't make the shot when I have it.

#2 - Situational Awareness - Knowing my plane's strengths/weaknesses vs the bogey; Knowing my opponent's tendencies; ANTICIPATING my opponent's tendencies; judging energy levels; knowing when to turn and when to extend...etc.

#3 - Maneuverability - Getting to the six is a major part of the battle, but without #1 and #2, #3 becomes useless. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

HART_dreyer
10-14-2004, 02:09 PM
Slick, want to fly 1on1 versus me where I get to start 2000 meters higher than you? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

SlickStick
10-14-2004, 02:42 PM
Sure, if we can then repeat the scenario with us at the same altitude and me with more energy. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

One of the things I've learned that is essential to a B and Zer is the ability to gain the advantage, not start with it.

I have to put one disclaimer, however, I've practiced for countless hours countering B and Z. My plane of choice against a B and Zer is one almost as fast and more maneuverable.

That way, I can almost catch them in the zoom climb by using my patented "draw'em in, loop under and snapshot their six as they go by." tactic. And if he makes one mistake by turning too sharp or attempting to extend too long, thus slightly draining too much E, I'll be in the more maneuverable plane at the same altitude.

I'm up for any 1 vs 1 fights. They provide the most challenge for me. I will acknowledge one point about B and Z. When done to perfection, it is extremely hard to overcome, but it is doable.

Intruder_GP
10-14-2004, 02:47 PM
Totally agree with you Slick just one trick wont do the work.

Question off topic: How the hell do I get a picture to be posted with my comments....It requires a URL to be created and how do you create one to point to a .jpeg image http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

HART_dreyer
10-14-2004, 02:51 PM
You are not talking about B&Z though Slick, but Energy fighting.

You have MSN or use IRC?

SlickStick
10-14-2004, 03:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Intruder_GP:
Totally agree with you Slick just one trick wont do the work.

Question off topic: How the hell do I get a picture to be posted with my comments....It requires a URL to be created and how do you create one to point to a .jpeg image http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You have to have a picture to post that is hosted somewhere on the internet that allows linking.

I use Image Shack...it's free and automatically generates the code to place photos in posts, by generating the IMG tag information around the URL. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I only have ICQ, but don't use it much anymore. Just tell me the times that you normally fly, dreyer, i'll make it a point to stop by. I never run from a challenge, I fulfill them. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

HART_dreyer
10-14-2004, 03:24 PM
I don't -usually- fly at any time nor anywhere :/

Zayets
10-14-2004, 03:52 PM
Well,I can score whenever I please.
Does that make me an ace?Of course it does!
The best?No doubt about it!

SlickStick
10-14-2004, 05:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HART_dreyer:
I don't -usually- fly at any time nor anywhere :/ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

OK, I'm usually around EST evenings and....(looks around nervously for anyone peering over my shoulder)....weekends all the time. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

One last thing, I'm not posting in this thread because I think I'm the #1 online virtual pilot or anything.

However, as high as I sit on the food chain of this game, I am quite satisfied with my online success. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

AFJ_Locust
10-14-2004, 10:36 PM
hehe SS, I here that...

That la7 is very good at taking out bnzers if they make any mistake.

I can T&B & do enjoy it as well.

Other night I was t&bing with Lag3s in a g2 scary stuff http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/53.gif

RedDeth
10-14-2004, 11:22 PM
i flew you slickstick 1v1 you are a good pilot...that is if you attach a lawn mower to the front of your plane.

every time i engaged you you flew straight to deck and never got over 100 meters high. and just turned in your LA7 non stop. you had no tactics at all except waiting for me to burn all my energy then engage.

we flew about 6 rounds and every round you took the la7.

i flew k4 and dominated you so bad i decided to rotate planes to give you a chance. i flew the dora and k4 and A9 and a couple other planes. the only time you got any kills is when i decided to turn and burn with you on the deck in a fw190A9 because you wouldnt fly ...just drive.

seriously slickstick . i could train you to fly this game. i see you have capabilities. you just waste them literally staying 100 feet off the deck hoping to burn energy off enemy.

a defensive pilot will never win any competitions. and ive been competing for 7 years now. so go on with all your drivel. you promised me on many threads you would join fightersweeps and beat me and beat my squad.

empty words all of it. i took top individual pilot in both rounds of fighter sweeps i entered.

AFJ won both rounds we entered. where were you slickstick? you talk the talk but you have never walked the walk. take a risk man. enter a competition

every time i enter a competition i have a giant bullseye on my plane as im such a loudmouth obnoxious dude.

the difference between me and you slickstick is i risk my neck every time i enter a competition. you just hide in the forums talking about how bad you will beat me in fightersweeps.

well afj is joining the new ghostskies. ill see you there if your a real man.

WUAF_Badsight
10-15-2004, 01:57 AM
DogFighting is just instinct

the only real skill in FB is gunnery

fastest killer ive seen in any online FB room , coop or Df , is =FB=Viks

WUAF_Badsight
10-15-2004, 01:59 AM
gold !

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:

1 vs 1 and RD and you go down faster than $5.00 HOs. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 05:07 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RedDeth:
i flew you slickstick 1v1 you are a good pilot...that is if you attach a lawn mower to the front of your plane.

every time i engaged you you flew straight to deck and never got over 100 meters high. and just turned in your LA7 non stop. you had no tactics at all except waiting for me to burn all my energy then engage.

we flew about 6 rounds and every round you took the la7.

i flew k4 and dominated you so bad i decided to rotate planes to give you a chance. i flew the dora and k4 and A9 and a couple other planes. the only time you got any kills is when i decided to turn and burn with you on the deck in a fw190A9 because you wouldnt fly ...just drive.

seriously slickstick . i could train you to fly this game. i see you have capabilities. you just waste them literally staying 100 feet off the deck hoping to burn energy off enemy.

a defensive pilot will never win any competitions. and ive been competing for 7 years now. so go on with all your drivel. you promised me on many threads you would join fightersweeps and beat me and beat my squad.

empty words all of it. i took top individual pilot in both rounds of fighter sweeps i entered.

AFJ won both rounds we entered. where were you slickstick? you talk the talk but you have never walked the walk. take a risk man. enter a competition

every time i enter a competition i have a giant bullseye on my plane as im such a loudmouth obnoxious dude.

the difference between me and you slickstick is i risk my neck every time i enter a competition. you just hide in the forums talking about how bad you will beat me in fightersweeps.

well afj is joining the new ghostskies. ill see you there if your a real man. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Poor deluded Red. Still hate to admit the blistering defeat you received at my hands. lol

Sadly, if I was 100m off the deck, how would I have managed to destroy you sooo many times in that match? Considering I had to climb to 2500m just to engage you.

12-8 was the final and you were a whisker away from being swept on those 8, as you were using the invincible FW A9 at the time before it was patched, absorbing 20mms like a sponge and then switched to the K4, where every zoom climb, you were but mere meters from losing a wing or similar from my 20mms.

I dominated you in the vertical and as you already know, in the turn since the only reason you have to go vertical is because you know you can't hang with me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Don't make me laugh at your so-called "competition victories". The first round you guys won, you skunked them with the auto-manual prop pitch BS of the K4. When they changed the format, you guys sat out because you knew if you didn't find some other means of "loophole" you might lose.

The second round you won, you were 3-3 against the best squad and racked up meaningless wins against the "not-so-good" squads. The crying and whining you guys did after losing to the 663rd was quite hilarious. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

One thing we've learned about the AFJ over the years, they will only fly when they have every single advantage and will stoop to ANYTHING to win. You don't even want to get started on the past, trust me, bro.

The sad part is how you actually believe what you write as you think others believe it, too, just because you post it.

I don't need Fighter sweeps to beat you. I prefer it just the way it happened, total domination in a 1 vs 1. My lack of a squad is conducive to not entering competitions, but who needs them, when it just as easy to smoke you when you've got no excuses or wingmen to bail you out in the 1 vs 1.

Silly, silly over-confident Red, how's that banana tasting? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Philipscdrw
10-15-2004, 06:40 AM
I'm the best pilot when I'm at 7000m over your base, in a Stuka, while you are still trying to turn your engine on!

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 07:30 AM
Oops, forgot to mention...way to go. First place pilot while stacking up meaningless wins against the less competitive squads of the competition and ducking the real challenges. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

Intruder_GP
10-15-2004, 07:45 AM
Lots of guys do talk a lot since they know with a squad help they could win easily in a DF server unlike guys like Dreyer, Slick and myself who are lone rangers and will fight 1vs1 any time and beat them...However I would not mind taking up challenges even if I am at odds since that is a learning experience as well. I would not mind meeting up with you Slick since I have not had the pleasure of doing so and the same goes for Red Death who I am not sure we have met since I do fly on his server a lot.

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 08:12 AM
Sounds great, Intruder. I love the challenge of mano e mano. It really gets the grey matter working. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

I always have a little chuckle to myself when a few squad members join an open DF server, to use comms and gang bang. Why bother? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

I also agree that much can be learned from losing as well as winning. Watching tracks later to pinpoint mistakes or just seeing what happened helps one make corrections and adjustments to be a better pilot.

My philosophy, the pilot who stops learning is the pilot who stops growing. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

AFJMantis
10-15-2004, 09:25 AM
Aces,Aces,Aces what does it all mean, somebody could be an absolute ace in an LA7 but a complete *** in a p47, a wonder in a p51 but a flying brick in a 109.The best Aces for me are the guys that can switch planes, and still kick ***, they are the guys that fly red or blue depending on team numbers and still rack up the kills.Those are the guys i have respect for.There arent too many but there are some be sure.To be a specialist in one type of plane is not so impressive.Pick a plane fly it day in day out and after some time you will be good in that plane and no more.

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 09:33 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by AFJMantis:
Aces,Aces,Aces what does it all mean, somebody could be an absolute ace in an LA7 but a complete *** in a p47, a wonder in a p51 but a flying brick in a 109.The best Aces for me are the guys that can switch planes, and still kick ***, they are the guys that fly red or blue depending on team numbers and still rack up the kills.Those are the guys i have respect for.There arent too many but there are some be sure.To be a specialist in one type of plane is not so impressive.Pick a plane fly it day in day out and after some time you will be good in that plane and no more. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not a bad point as I haven't flown the La-7 online in about 3 months or more, although it used to be my main ride. Not because of it, but because I'd already rooted out the La-7 Aces I needed to fly against to assess my place in the food chain. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

So many options nowadays with the plane set we have, both red and blue. That's the coolest part, too. A true upper echelon pilot knows how to make whatever plane in this game that he is in at the time, work for him.

I'm always first in line to switch sides, because it gives great experience flying both sides of the fence and especially when plane sets are year limited on any one server.

"Know your own strengths and weaknesses well, but know thine enemy's better."

TheGozr
10-15-2004, 09:47 AM
PROWAR is running The 1v1 matches..
lets me know when ready for a Match with each others http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thx to TOAD.

RedDeth
10-15-2004, 10:21 AM
slickstick you still flying argayde mode?


ill ignore your last reply to me as every single word of it is made up or fanciful delusions of what really happens in tournaments.

personally ive been in about 7 or 8 online comps. how about you? again slickstick does not fly online normally. anytime you want to meet slick we can show up with about 4 of our pilots. you wont beat one. were online 7 days a week

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 11:08 AM
Of course you'll ignore it, Red. Everyone knows the truth hurts. In this case, it cuts like a knife. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

Your whining about losing proved everything I've already known to be true about you. Only good when all advantages are held. Only top pilot against the likes of the inexperienced squads, multiple, multiple times. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

As for your past competition performance, well, several of us know the E! True Hollywood story about those days. However, that was a different game that nobody even cares about anymore, save a small bunch of fellows dedicated and succeeding in adding to it.

Sad past for you, Red. Truly sad.

TgD Thunderbolt56
10-15-2004, 11:14 AM
get a room guys...will ya. Sheesh.

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 11:18 AM
At least we're keeping it in one measly little thread. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

El Turo
10-15-2004, 11:26 AM
Let me see if I got this straight:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I r0xx0rz3d j00 in t3h n0 c0ckp1t \/\/ \/\/ $3rv3r! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


...?

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Stiletto_1
10-15-2004, 11:28 AM
Being an La driver 99% of the time and really no good at the Z&B stuff(except the occasional survival against Hurris and the like..) I can really only speak for the hard turners. And some names come to mind; Top of my list: My own brother EURO_ExOS6, XO of the EURO's. 69th_B1izard and 306th_TgrCharlie are two more of the most dangerous pilots one can run into online.
But, as I said before, this is only one man's opinion and only talks about turners. As far as high flying 109's, 51's and Spit's...well thats another story alltogether but AFJ comes to mind..

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 11:37 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheGozr:
PROWAR is running The 1v1 matches..
lets me know when ready for a Match with each others http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Thx to TOAD. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Will do. A video card upgrade is in the works for me and I'll finally be able to fly true Full Real competitively. Not just pit with externals. My old GF2 just doesn't have enough bandwidth to allow for smooth enough full real.

Kind of hard to shoot down pilots when your FPS is dipping into the single digits under heavy load. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gifhttp://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

I always fly pit on these days, even on open pit servers. Keeps me in practice. I'm quite used to it and have no need to turn the pit off.

muHamad-ALi
10-15-2004, 11:47 AM
Congradulations you have all missed the entire point of the thread and have failed to name top pilots. I know of at least one pro pilot that decimated slickstick, thats all i will say.

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 12:06 PM
There is only one, you are correct. We are 5-5 in Ki-84-1cs and he holds the edge in the La-7 at 6-2.

Decimated...hardly the word as I could turn inside of him quite easily. His only skill came in the form of "air brakes" and 20mm hits that didn't register as he swept past my nose. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

We've flown 1 vs 1 twice.

Stiletto_1
10-15-2004, 12:09 PM
And who is this mystery pilot?

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 12:12 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stiletto_1:
And who is this mystery pilot? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

If he chooses to name himself, I will not deny it. For I have integrity and honor on my side, as I've always had since joining the flight sim community in 2000.

Yum_Yum
10-15-2004, 12:18 PM
Hello http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif,

I hope you don't think I am being rude, but I would like to say that I think any server can have a resident Ace, but there is no Ace for any server ?

http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Stiletto_1
10-15-2004, 12:19 PM
Hmm, would it infringe on your integrity to name the guy without his consent? I'm sure there are more mere mortals who are dying to know...

WUAF_Badsight
10-15-2004, 12:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
If he chooses to name himself, I will not deny it. For I have integrity and honor on my side, as I've always had since joining the flight sim community in 2000. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

havent you figured out who muHammed ALi is yet Slick ???

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 12:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WUAF_Badsight:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SlickStick:
If he chooses to name himself, I will not deny it. For I have integrity and honor on my side, as I've always had since joining the flight sim community in 2000. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

havent you figured out who muHammed ALi is yet Slick ??? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Of course, silly. He's the same guy with multiple nicks that runs the same 1 vs 1 server all the time on HyperLobby. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Hence this line in my first post in this thread:

"Interesting subject and usually someone's ego in disguise posts this question every so often. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif"

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 01:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RedDeth:
anytime you want to meet slick we can show up with about 4 of our pilots. you wont beat one. were online 7 days a week <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I already beat one....YOU! LMAO! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif

I fly everyday as well, however, I spend my time looking for challenges, not taking advantage of noobs and gang banging solo pilots. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

HART_dreyer
10-15-2004, 01:20 PM
No wonder I've never seen you if you don't fly full real.

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 01:35 PM
The hilarious part about people's perception of Full Real is that it's 10 times easier to "enhance" online game play in Full Real when you can't be seen at all times. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

In all honesty, most kills on Full Real servers comes when the bogey doesn't even see you. It's just no challenge to me to just fly around up there, waiting to pounce on some unsuspecting pilot.

My fun comes from him seeing me coming, as I do him, having him be able to watch my every move, yet I still take him down with my skills, rather than relying on Bull**** TrackIR when padlock is off on the server or using low resolutions and other game manipulations to take advantage of Full Real, while others aren't.

dreyer, as I'm but mere days away from being able to go Full Real with my hardware, it will take but a couple of weeks of flying for me to get competitive for ya. I'll certainly look you up.

The battle is basically the same, except it's easier to get away or "hide" in total Full Real. Find the bogey first and you'll never get shot down, lol.

HART_dreyer
10-15-2004, 01:56 PM
Padlock? Skill? Laff.

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 02:20 PM
Yawn....whatever. I love those that think themselves so much more skilled with FR. It's actually laughable.

Used to love the old UBI 1941 dedicated FR server back in the day though.

HART_dreyer
10-15-2004, 02:43 PM
All settings such as Padlock/icons/unlimited ammo or whatever other "non-full real" settings does is eliminate skill.

Padlock eliminates the need to keep your SA high and track your enemy with your eyes. Loosing sight of your opponent is a very big problem when you don't have padlock and icons.

So basically going from easy settings to full difficulty settings require you to manage a lot more aspects of the game. I.e. it takes more and different kinds of skill.

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 02:58 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HART_dreyer:
All settings such as Padlock/icons/unlimited ammo or whatever other "non-full real" settings does is eliminate skill.

Padlock eliminates the need to keep your SA high and track your enemy with your eyes. Loosing sight of your opponent is a very big problem when you don't have padlock and icons.

So basically going from easy settings to full difficulty settings require you to manage a lot more aspects of the game. I.e. it takes more and different kinds of skill. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Actually, with a short distance padlock, it just allows tracking without having to manipulate a hat switch...for those that don't have TrackIR.

When padlock is setup extremely short and no triangle is present, it seems more realistic to me, as the padlock breaks as soon as they move apart far enough.

There is a slight skill set difference, but once you've mastered one, mastering the other is not that difficult, just takes a little more patience and practice.

I'm sure I'll have to re-adjust how my stick is setup, what's mapped where, but having flown Full Real part-time since Day 1, it's not going to be that big a deal as you make it out to be.

The bottom line...FR is much more flying than dogfighting and I don't go online to fly, I go online to dogfight. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif

HART_dreyer
10-15-2004, 03:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>There is a slight skill set difference, but once you've mastered one, mastering the other is not that difficult, just takes a little more patience and practice. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I agree with that. However I still think padlock is utterly lame even at a short distance. Only setting I don€t have a problem with is limited icons and speed bar, that€s fine.

If you simply fly to dogfight that's ok, but then you can't talk about being a skilled pilot. Skilled dogfighter however, but that's like apples and oranges.

Getting used to Full Real settings is not really a problem, however possessing the right mentality and knowing what to do to win in any given situation is more important. Just dog fighting 24/7 is not going to teach you everything you need to know to be skilled.

I don't fly to dogfight, I fly to win.

I also don't use my hatswitch, that thing is horrible. Keypad all the way.

Yellonet
10-15-2004, 03:21 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HART_dreyer:
I also don't use my hatswitch, that thing is horrible. Keypad all the way. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The only way to go... my thumb takes a beating every time I try to use the hat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

WUAF_Badsight
10-15-2004, 03:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HART_dreyer:
I don't fly to dogfight, I fly to win. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
dont you just love the people who g " YAWN" or "Boring" ! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

next sentence is "come on & turn with me" usually . . . . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

or my all time fav "come down & fight like a man" . . . . . . . http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

(outside of 1v1 of course)

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 04:00 PM
(edit) Uncalled for comment removed (/edit)

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crazyivan1970
10-15-2004, 04:01 PM
Is this like a braggin convetion? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 04:03 PM
Actually, it's quite fun, Ivan...a little stress reliever during working hours.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

HART_dreyer
10-15-2004, 04:03 PM
The SlickStick bragging thread. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

crazyivan1970
10-15-2004, 04:05 PM
Oh i get it hehe

http://www.digitalmediafx.com/Shrek/Images/Shrek01abig.jpg

SlickStick
10-15-2004, 04:15 PM
Ah well, C'est la vie. As it didn't start out this way, but np. I'll just meander on over to another thread.

I plucked my intended chicken and as it is irrelevant what other people think...he knows the truth and I know the truth and that is all that matters to me. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/59.gif

SlickStick
10-16-2004, 08:55 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/351.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
10-16-2004, 09:47 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by muHamad-ALi:
Please nominate top pilots found in the multiplayer arena of il2: forgotten battles.
Coops, Ubi, virtual wars, and hyperlobby are all fair game. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I take it your a boxing fan. Im a huge one. So who you taking Bernard or Tito? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Aztek_Eagle
10-16-2004, 10:53 AM
Any trim user http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/88.gif