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xbelier
02-21-2005, 01:26 AM
Hi.

I've been trying to take off from a carrier but i always end up on the water.

What I do to take off is:

- Flaps to take off position
- Mixture 100% (Auto Rich)
- Pitch 100%
- Engine Ignition
- Brakes ON
- Throttle to 110%
- Wait till engine is at max RPM
- Toggle chocks
- Release Brakes
- When near the end of the carrier I pull the stick
- I always end up turning to the right and falling to the water

Ô┬┐Can it be a bad joystick calibration? When flying the plane goes straight without touching it.

Ô┬┐Any help? Ô┬┐Any tutorial available?

Thanks in advance

xbelier
02-21-2005, 01:26 AM
Hi.

I've been trying to take off from a carrier but i always end up on the water.

What I do to take off is:

- Flaps to take off position
- Mixture 100% (Auto Rich)
- Pitch 100%
- Engine Ignition
- Brakes ON
- Throttle to 110%
- Wait till engine is at max RPM
- Toggle chocks
- Release Brakes
- When near the end of the carrier I pull the stick
- I always end up turning to the right and falling to the water

Ô┬┐Can it be a bad joystick calibration? When flying the plane goes straight without touching it.

Ô┬┐Any help? Ô┬┐Any tutorial available?

Thanks in advance

Finkeren
02-21-2005, 01:47 AM
You're obviously pulling too hard on the stick.
When I first got the original IL2 I spent a full week just learning how to take off from a run way!
Be easy on the stick and pull back VERY gently. It doesn't matter if you loose a lttle altitude and skim the water.
After patch 2.04 all flyable carrier borne AC can take off from a stationary carrier, it's just about being gentle. You might want to try setting the mixture to 120% on U.S. planes, it gives you a bit more thrust but it's really not necesary.
BTW the F4F, A6M and VAL will take off from the deck e.g. lift off before the end of the deck is reached.

EnGaurde
02-21-2005, 01:56 AM
when you leave the carrier, you will sink somewhat.

panic is not your friend in this situation.

do not, i say again, do not pull back on the stick... much.

keep your nose level.

get your gear up, fast.

on my sweet Zero i dont use take off flaps, but then im not carrying as much ammo, metal, fuel or fried chicken eating pilot http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif either.

does it matter if you level out a smidge above the water, or you dont start climbing like an angel smacked on the @rse straight away?

ease off the carrier.... caress, dont backhand, her up to flying speed eh?

EDIT:

stop playing console games. They poison the mind. And the reactions.

Monson74
02-21-2005, 02:14 AM
Try this:

1) Throttle up all the way with WEP if any.
2) Set flaps to take-off.
3) Close the canopy if open.
4) Release chocks.
5) Push the stick forward to pick up speed faster.
6) When you leave the deck - pull back on the stick very gently.
7) Pray.

xbelier
02-21-2005, 05:55 AM
Hi.

Thanks for answering.

I didn't knew anything about pushing a bit for gaining speed. And obviously pull hard when leaving carrier http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif .
Then it's just a matter to pull gently when leaving.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/353.gif
It makes a lot that I don't play console games. I've been playing FPS and last time I played a flight simulator was maybe 7 years ago. Rusty, rusty, rusty.

Anyway, somewhere to find profiles for joysticks?

Thanks in advance

ClnlSandersLite
02-21-2005, 06:01 AM
Also, some planes take off faster with full flaps, you may want to try that. Something else to do, work your way up to a fully loaded take off from near empty. Set up a mission with no ammo, and little fuel. Then, just increase it a notch now and then. You'll be up in no time.

HotelBushranger
02-21-2005, 06:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Anyway, somewhere to find profiles for joysticks? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whatever you do. don't get a Logitech! I did so before asking on these forums, and my Logi's a piece of frappin junk! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

I would recommend something like a Saitek, they run very well according to a lot of PFers.

HotelBushranger
02-21-2005, 06:22 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Anyway, somewhere to find profiles for joysticks? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whatever you do. don't get a Logitech! I did so before asking on these forums, and my Logi's a piece of frappin junk! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

I would recommend something like a Saitek, they run very well according to a lot of PFers.

Good luck! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

RxMan
02-21-2005, 07:12 AM
Don't carry ANY ordinance (bombs, fuel tanks, rockets etc) and bring very little fuel (25%)until you can take off 99% of the time. Then add weight gradually. Good luck, if you can, get CH controls, you will not regret it.

Doc_Redrum
02-21-2005, 03:50 PM
Aaah Logi's, went thru 3 of them before I got one that didn't jump all over while calibrating.... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

As far as the taking off, what plane and what kind of weapon load-out? Don't try with the heavies cuz 9 outta 10 times you will get plowed under by the carrier.

Krt_Bong
02-23-2005, 01:24 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HotelBushranger:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Anyway, somewhere to find profiles for joysticks? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Whatever you do. _don't_ get a Logitech! I did so before asking on these forums, and my Logi's a piece of frappin junk! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-mad.gif

I would recommend something like a Saitek, they run very well according to a lot of PFers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I would say you're right except I have a Logitech 3Dpro and it's prolly my 4th from them however, I did go to great lengths to get one that worked right and it is possible to do so but their potentiometers are'nt very strong, the latest ones are better I would love to have an X-45 but where I live it's whatever you can get from Wal-Marts and they only carry the cheapest Saitek so here's what you do if your stuck with a Logitech: First set the filters and deadzone about halfway to start, the filter keeps extra inputs from yaw-pitch-roll from causing the glitchy behaviors you get (like getting left/right motion when pulling back on the stick or vice/versa) Second; start with slider settings like 0 1 4 9 16 25 36 49 64 81 100 on the pitch and roll axes and 0 9 18 36 42 50 60 70 80 90 100 for the twist (rudders) sites like www.airwarfare.com (http://www.airwarfare.com) have listings for popular control settings. Don't bother to use the profiler for the Logitechs in the game as the inputs in the game menu will cause conflicts that will complicate things for you but do go to Start/control panel/game controllers and when you go to calibrate hold down ctrl-shift and click properties this will allow you to use windows default to zero out your joystick if you cant get it to work go to test first and wiggle the stick then properties and calibrate. Yes its a cheap stick but it is possible to make it work for you budget flyers out there and you can get newview or freelook if you're not ready to shell out $100+ for track-ir (this is in utilities at Airwarfare.com) I happen to have a Beta of the 3Dpro revised model and it has worked flawlessly for 5 mos. now (previously they didnt last 5wks.) but I still want the X-45 I just can't find one right now.

arjisme
02-23-2005, 02:20 PM
One more thing to check in case you are still having problems. If you have mapped any trim controls to your stick or throttle, make sure they are not inadvertently dialing in heavy trim (say lots of aileron or rudder).

F4U_Flyer
02-23-2005, 07:52 PM
The best profile for me is 100% across the board! Just learn not to be a wild monkey and fly with a gentile hand and it works very well. I know it's not realistic but niether is the ai or the onliners !