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Mysticpuma2003
03-19-2007, 10:57 AM
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=22567

seems there is a lot of activity out there.

Cheers, MP.

TC_Stele
03-19-2007, 03:13 PM
Fascinating thread. I don't have any stories myself, but my dad had one from WW2 as an ATC.

He had heard stories of a fighter pilot in Europe who had landed his plane after having taken damage, not sure if it was flak or from gun fire, but after the pilot landed the crew found that he was already dead for some time. Not sure how they could figure out how long he'd been dead or maybe he simply died right after the landing. Interesting none the less.

Warrington_Wolf
03-19-2007, 03:51 PM
I remember reading about something spooky at a local WW2 airbase, RAF Burtonwood.
Apparently an American airman (Burtonwood was an American Airbase) got decapitated in an accident at the base. A figure without a head has been seen over the years by numerous people at the base including flight crew.

Here is a link with more information about RAF Burtonwood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAF_Burtonwood

Spectre1968
03-19-2007, 05:28 PM
RAF Tangmere in sussex is supposed to be haunted I took my dog for a walk very near there one day and she refused to get out of the car.

Most of Raf Tangmere is a big field full of veg but you can make out where the runway was. Supposedly when it was still a field campers reported hearing planes taking off and ran out the tents panicing to find everything quite normal.
http://s165794919.websitehome.co.uk/images/gallery/Tangmere16.jpg

Spooky

XyZspineZyX
03-19-2007, 08:09 PM
http://www.armyairforces.com/forum/m_99887/tm.htm

woofiedog
03-20-2007, 03:08 AM
Good thread... Here is a link to haunted airbase andd aircrews.

Lancaster Bomber

Location: Barnoldswick - Area near Rolls Royce's Bankfield factory, and area towards Craven
Type: Haunting Manifestation
Date / Time: January 2004
Further Comments: Around thirty witnesses claimed to have seen a silent, grey coloured aircraft resembling a Lancaster Bomber moving silently through the sky. The accounts were virtually all isolated, and spanned the month.

Aviation Ghosts & Mysteries/Paranormal Database Records... http://www.paranormaldatabase.com/aviation/pages/avdata.php

Also... Often called the most haunted ship in history, the USS Hornet rests deceptively still in its berth at the decommissioned Alameda Naval Base.

Link: http://www.hauntedbay.com/features/usshornet.shtml

La7_brook
03-20-2007, 05:11 AM
i watched a film as a kid about bomber crew that crushed in the desert in WW2 , the whole time in the movie they did not know that they had all ready died , i dont remember the name of that movie

XyZspineZyX
03-20-2007, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by La7_brook:
i watched a film as a kid about bomber crew that crushed in the desert in WW2 , the whole time in the movie they did not know that they had all ready died , i dont remember the name of that movie

"A guy named Joe"

Spencer Tracy stars. They play catch all day long. A search team shows up, years after the crash, and finds all the bodies. They can't find Spencer Tracy's caharchter's remains, as they lay under the wreck. The rest of the crew can finally leave, but Tracy's character ends up alone at the wreck, his friends gone. A little depressing

Mysticpuma2003
03-20-2007, 10:18 AM
In the UK the film was called either "The Soul Survivor" or "The Sole Survivor", sorry, can't remember the spelling.

Cheers, MP.

XyZspineZyX
03-20-2007, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Mysticpuma2003:
In the UK the film was called either "The Soul Survivor" or "The Sole Survivor", sorry, can't remember the spelling.

Cheers, MP.

Actually, I think I'm confusing A guy named Joe and Sole Survivor right now, and making them one film in my head

Spectre1968
03-20-2007, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by BBB462cid:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by La7_brook:
i watched a film as a kid about bomber crew that crushed in the desert in WW2 , the whole time in the movie they did not know that they had all ready died , i dont remember the name of that movie

"A guy named Joe"

Spencer Tracy stars. They play catch all day long. A search team shows up, years after the crash, and finds all the bodies. They can't find Spencer Tracy's caharchter's remains, as they lay under the wreck. The rest of the crew can finally leave, but Tracy's character ends up alone at the wreck, his friends gone. A little depressing </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh it`s not the Spencer Tracey movie

Richard Basehart was the guy who survived

Don`t they come back right at the end of the film because as they are flying away the survivor guy is reading the diary he found and realises he is buried under the tail

woofiedog
03-20-2007, 01:14 PM
Lady Be Good

http://aas.students.mtu.edu/pictures/history_art/Lady%20Be%20Good%20Wreckage.jpg

Links:
http://www.376hbgva.com/aircraft/ladybegood.html
http://www.qmfound.com/lady_be_good_b-24_bomber_recovery.htm

http://www.navworld.com/navcerebrations/b24lad3.jpg
http://www.navworld.com/navcerebrations/b24lady.htm


Recovery in 1959 of B-24 Bomber crew lost in Libyan Desert in 1943

Story of the 1959-60 search for and recovery of crew members of the B-24 Bomber Lady Be Good. This aircraft was discovered in the Libyan Desert 16 years after it lost its way back from a World War II mission to bomb Naples, Italy on 4 April 1943. The plane was found in 1959 by an oil exploration team, miraculously preserved by the desert environment. The next year the bodies of eight of the nine crew members were recovered by Quartermaster Graves Registration personnel.

On the afternoon of April 4, 1943, the B-24 bomber 'Lady Be Good' (LBG) took off from Soluch Airstrip in Libya, along with 24 other planes, on a mission to bomb the port at Naples, Italy. The estimated time for the mission was nine hours round trip, and the planes had enough fuel for twelve hours of flight time.

Due to strong winds and sandstorms, the planes were forced to take off in small groups. The LBG was one of the last to leave, in a group with two other planes. But these two planes had gotten sand in their engines while taking off and had to turn back, leaving the LBG alone and well behind the other planes.

The crew had to make constant course corrections along the route, due to strong winds, and fell even further behind the other planes. The planes could not communicate with each other by radio, for fear of attracting Nazi fighter planes. By the time the LBG reached the vicinity of the target, the other planes had already dropped their bombs and were on their way back home. Rather than drop its bombs alone, the LBG headed for home and dropped its bombs into the sea along the way.

On its way back, the aircraft sent a coded message asking for a directional bearing to Soluch, and was sent one, but after that the plane was not heard from again. An extensive sea search and limited land search were undertaken, but the plane and its crew of nine could not be found. It had been the crew's first combat mission.



The crew members of the 'Lady Be Good' were:

1st Lieutenant William J. Hatton, Pilot - Whitestone, New York
2d Lieutenant Robert F. Toner, Copilot - North Attelboro, Massachusetts
2d Lieutenant Dp Hays, Navigator - Lee's Summit, Missouri
2d Lieutenant John S. Woravka, Bombardier - Cleveland, Ohio
Technical Sergeant Harold J. Ripslinger, Flight Engineer - Saginaw, Michigan
Technical Sergeant Robert E. LaMotte, Radio Operator - Lake Linden, Michigan
Staff Sergeant Guy E. Shelley, Gunner/Asst Flight Engineer - New Cumberland, Pennsylvania
Staff Sergeant Vernon L. Moore, Gunner/Asst Radio Operator - New Boston, Ohio
Staff Sergeant Samuel R. Adams, Gunner - Eureka, Illinois

In May of 1958, fifteen years after the LBG disappeared, some aircraft wreckage was spotted from the air by a British oil exploration crew while they were looking for oil deep in the Libyan desert. A ground team subsequently visited the crash site and identified the wreckage as being that of the LBG. The aircraft was located about 440 miles (708 km) south of its intended destination. It is not known for sure how the plane ended up so far off course, but it is thought that the plane did not receive, or else misread, the directional bearing that had been sent to it and became lost in the darkness, crossing over the Libyan coast and continuing on into the desert until it ran out of fuel.

The plane eventually crash landed, skidding a considerable distance before finally coming to rest. The aircraft had broken apart just behind the wings, but was otherwise in very good condition, well preserved by the dry desert air. A machine gun and a radio discovered in the wreckage were found to be in perfect working order. It was assumed that the crew must have parachuted from the plane shortly before the crash, since the rear escape hatch and bomb bay doors were open and no parachutes were found. No sign of the crew was found anywhere near the wreckage.

In May of 1959, a year after the wreckage was discovered, a small team was sent to Libya by the U. S. Army to search for the remains of the crewmen. This team, aided by Air Force personnel from Wheelus Air Force Base near Tripoli, Libya, conducted an extensive ground and air search near the crash site over a period of four months. On an old trail leading northwest from the crash site, some items of equipment were found that were apparently left by the crewmen as arrow markers to help Air-Sea Rescue locate them. About 19 miles (31 km) north of the crash site, a pair of flight boots was found with the toes forming an arrow pointing north. Then a series of parachutes was found, each weighted down with stones, to mark the crew's route. No human remains were found by the team and it was concluded that any remains had probably been covered up by blowing desert sand. Experts estimated that the airmen would have been able to travel no more than 25 or 30 miles (40 - 48 km) under the harsh desert conditions.

But in February of 1960, another British oil exploration team found the remains of five of the crewmen from the LBG on a desert plateau, at a distance of 85 miles (137 km) north of the crash site. The remains were found grouped closely together and nearby were pieces of equipment and personal effects. Among the effects was a diary, kept by Lt. Robert Toner, and the entries in the diary for April 5 through 12, 1943, told a story of true courage and heroism.

According to the diary, the crew bailed out of the aircraft at 2 AM on April 5. Eight of the crew members assembled in the darkness after reaching the ground, but there was no sign of the ninth crewman, Lt. John Woravka. The eight men, with only half a canteen of water to share between them, then travelled to the site where the remains were found, despite temperatures that would have reached up to 130 degrees F (54 C). At that point, crewmen Hatton, Toner, Hays, Adams and LaMotte could not continue due to exhaustion and remained behind, while crewmen Shelley, Moore and Ripslinger continued on in search of help.

After the remains of the five crewmen were discovered, the Army and Air Force launched an extensive joint effort, called Operation Climax, to locate the remaining four crewmen. Numerous ground vehicles, helicopters and reconnaissance fighters were used in the operation.

On May 12, 1960, some British oil workers discovered the remains of crewman Guy E. Shelley. He was found 21 miles (34 km) northwest of the site where the first five crewmen were found. And then five days later, a helicopter from Operation Climax discovered the remains of crewman Harold J. Ripslinger an additional 26 miles (42 km) north of crewman Shelley. He was found in an area dotted with sand dunes up to 600 feet high, and at an amazing distance of 132 miles (212 km) from the original crash site. In late May of 1960 Operation Climax was concluded, without finding the remaining two missing airmen.

The remains of airman John S. Woravka, the crewman who had failed to meet up with the other eight men after bailout, were found in August, 1960, by another British oil team, about 16 miles (26 km) northwest of the crash site. He was in his flight suit and his parachute was still attached, indicating that the parachute had failed to open properly and that he probably died upon impact with the ground. During the recovery of airman Woravka's remains, a pile of discarded parachute harnesses and flight clothing was found about a half mile to the southwest, indicating that this was the spot where the other eight crewmen had met up after bailout. If only the crewmen had been able to find their way to the crash site, 16 miles to the southeast of their gathering point, they would have been able to radio for help.

The remains of the ninth airman, Staff Sgt. V.L. Moore, have never been found.

Through the years various items from the LBG crash site were distributed to museums and schools throughout the world. Souvenirs were also taken from the site by search party members and oil exploration teams. The aircraft had been largely stripped down to its frame by the time the Libyan government, in 1994, finally removed the last of the aircraft remains from the desert and placed them in storage.

woofiedog
03-20-2007, 01:46 PM
And one other B-25 story... The Lost Bomber.

http://www.damninteresting.net/content/bigcrashmap.jpg

In the middle of the afternoon on January 31, 1956 a B-25 bomber crash-landed into the Monongahela river near Homestead, Pennsylvania. All six aboard survived the impact, though two of them died before they were saved from the cold water. It was an unfortunate accident, and in the following weeks a search for the sunken plane was conducted.

The odds of finding the plane seemed pretty good - at the crash location the river was only 500 to 1,000 feet in width and 25 to 35 feet in depth. In comparison, a B-25 bomber is 52 feet long, 17 feet tall and has a wingspan of 67 feet. It took 15 minutes to sink underwater, and there were plenty of witnesses, so its last location above water was well known. It did not seem that finding the bomber would be a difficult task; yet after two weeks of hard searching, the plane was still missing and the operation was abandoned. So where did the B-25 really go?

Links:
http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=579
http://www.sennex.com/b25/

Warrington_Wolf
03-20-2007, 04:00 PM
I've been flicking through the collection of books I have written by a local man called Tom Slemen, and he mentions numerous ghosts and mysterious sightings involving aviation. That is where I heard the story of the headless airman at Burtonwood.
He also mentioned sightings of Tom Campbell Black at Liverpool airport (formally known as Speke airport). That is where he was killed in an accident, below is a bit of information that I found regarding Tom Campbell Black including some detail on the accident.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Campbell_Black

He also prints stories that don't involve paranormal activity but are interesting none the less. The one that sticks in my mind was about a kid in Liverpool during 1941, who wanted a bike but his parents couldn't afford it. So the mother got store credit (or something like that) and would have to pay the store back later.
Two night later the store was completely destroyed (along with records of purchase) by the Luftwaffe during one of many raids on the city.

Hanglands
03-20-2007, 04:25 PM
Hi,

Im sure that if ever I have seen a haunted airfield, it would have been this :

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m203/ChickenHawk_2006/Warboys2.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m203/ChickenHawk_2006/Warboys5.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m203/ChickenHawk_2006/Warboys4.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m203/ChickenHawk_2006/Warboys3.jpg

These photos were in my first post ever in this forum, which I cant find now because the 'search' function has gone for a burton.

The photos show what is left of the sick bay and mortuary of the old RAF Warboys site in Huntingdonshire, England.

I cant say that we witnessed any ghostly activities, but just being informed of RAF Bomber Commands appalling loses, and imagining the sheer number of young men who must have passed through there or died there made me feel deference even to the remains of the buildings themselves.

Bo_Nidle
03-20-2007, 05:14 PM
I served as an RAF Policeman at RAF Waddington in the early 80's. Waddington had been a Bomber Command base during WW2, most famously with Lancasters, when I was there it was a Vulcan base. The conventional bomb dump was located on the opposite side of the runway to the hangars. It was where the 1000lb bombs were kept.

The story went that several armourers had been going about their duties when they had been approached by a Chief Technician (an RAF Tecnical Sergeant) who was dressed in an obselete type of uniform which displayed the RAF eagle at the shoulders.This had not been in use since WW2 (I believe it has recently been re-introduced).When approached the Cheif Tech just disappeared. The rumour was it was the ghost of a chap killed in an air raid during WW2.

Now this would not have been of much other than casual interest to me were it not for the fact that on nights, if you were assigned to patrol that area you had to spend an hours foot patrol in there!!!! I never saw it myself as I don't think I ever went past 20 metres from the gate and spent an hour clutching my 9mm L2a3 Sterling smg.What use it would have been against a ghost?....I have NO idea! But it was a comfort. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blush.gif

It did lead to some jolly japes though. Such as one chap finding a dead rabbit and hanging it over the handle of the toilet door in the depths of the bomb dump where he knew the guy following spent his hour hiding in the dark.When the next guy came to leave the toilet he felt the rabbit and thought a werewolf was in there with him!!!!!!

But my all time favourite was the shift that borrowed a practice dummy from the fire section and "lynched" it from one of the winches on the outside of one of the bomb dump buildings. When the poor unsuspecting new chap found it all radio procedure went out of the window with shouts over the air of "THERES A F***ING BODY IN THE BOMB DUMP!!THERES A F***ING BODY IN THE BOMB DUMP!!". When the patrols go to him he was back by the gate very upset and was locked and loaded. Now THATS comedy!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

russ.nl
03-21-2007, 05:12 AM
Wasn't there a story posted here on GD a couple of years back of a man that was flown in by a ww2 plane/pilot?

He was lost or something, maybe his nav. didn't work and I think it was dark too. He radio for help and after a while an old plane came flying next to him and gided him onto an abandond RAF airfield.

Sorry a bit vage but it was an interesting story.