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fordfan25
07-12-2005, 09:18 PM
dose any one else in hear feel that the fighters with the DW overheats way to fast or easy or take far to long to cool down?

not saying im sure its wrong just that compaired to just about every other populer plane it seems to over heat VERY fast and once it does it takes for ever and a day to cool. im talkin at wep. i can fly the FW,109,la7,p51,spity ect at wep or there respected counter part such as methonal injection ect much longer than in the sair,hellcat and even p47. pluse in say the case of a FW all i have to do is back off the throttle to say 95% and in roughly say 30sec it cools back down to were the warning goes off.

just thoght id ask. may have already been beat to death i dont know.


the reson i called for tagets and Gibs attention was thay seems to have a nack for testing and a large resource of offical stuff.

VW-IceFire
07-12-2005, 09:29 PM
Can't add too much here...but the Corsair and Hellcat seem to overheat a bit slower than before. So there was an effort to change something...

But I don't think this was applied to all R-2800 aircraft...

TAGERT.
07-12-2005, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
dose any one else in hear feel that the fighters with the DW overheats way to fast or easy or take far to long to cool down?

not saying im sure its wrong just that compaired to just about every other populer plane it seems to over heat VERY fast and once it does it takes for ever and a day to cool. im talkin at wep. i can fly the FW,109,la7,p51,spity ect at wep or there respected counter part such as methonal injection ect much longer than in the sair,hellcat and even p47. pluse in say the case of a FW all i have to do is back off the throttle to say 95% and in roughly say 30sec it cools back down to were the warning goes off.

just thoght id ask. may have already been beat to death i dont know.


the reson i called for tagets and Gibs attention was thay seems to have a nack for testing and a large resource of offical stuff. WOW! Someone posted my name in a title without the typicall "TAGERT U R AN @#%&*$#@"! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

As for the DW, funny you should ask, Im actully trying to find some data on it for *other* reaons! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I too feel it over heats too fast.. But that is just based on my feelings and I dont have any hard data to back it up.. yet! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif So, I tend to stay away from calling things broke if I dont have some data to support my claims.. I will say thing though, she seems to cool off too fast too! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, That and you can run her around the room for a long time while she is hot before she will go down on you.. That goes for the DW too! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif So it is kind of a give and take.

fordfan25
07-12-2005, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by TAGERT.:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fordfan25:
dose any one else in hear feel that the fighters with the DW overheats way to fast or easy or take far to long to cool down?

not saying im sure its wrong just that compaired to just about every other populer plane it seems to over heat VERY fast and once it does it takes for ever and a day to cool. im talkin at wep. i can fly the FW,109,la7,p51,spity ect at wep or there respected counter part such as methonal injection ect much longer than in the sair,hellcat and even p47. pluse in say the case of a FW all i have to do is back off the throttle to say 95% and in roughly say 30sec it cools back down to were the warning goes off.

just thoght id ask. may have already been beat to death i dont know.


the reson i called for tagets and Gibs attention was thay seems to have a nack for testing and a large resource of offical stuff. WOW! Someone posted my name in a title without the typicall "TAGERT U R AN @#%&*$#@"! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

As for the DW, funny you should ask, Im actully trying to find some data on it for *other* reaons! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif I too feel it over heats too fast.. But that is just based on my feelings and I dont have any hard data to back it up.. yet! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif So, I tend to stay away from calling things broke if I dont have some data to support my claims.. I will say thing though, she seems to cool off too fast too! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif, That and you can run her around the room for a long time while she is hot before she will go down on you.. That goes for the DW too! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif So it is kind of a give and take. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

"WOW! Someone posted my name in a title without the typicall "TAGERT U R AN @#%&*$#@"! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif"

well i just figured that went with out sayn http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif

yea i dont know anythinng about how long it will run while the over heating warrning is on. i always back off soon as i see the warrning 99% of the time. the p-47 seems to do better IMO.

TAGERT.
07-12-2005, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by fordfan25:
well i just figured that went with out sayn http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif ROTFL! Sadly.. it does! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif


Originally posted by fordfan25:
yea i dont know anythinng about how long it will run while the over heating warrning is on. I always back off soon as i see the warrning 99% of the time. the p-47 seems to do better IMO. Roger, one thing good about the air cooled jobs is they seem to be able to stand the heat better than the water jacket boys.. So, dont-be-a-scard to run her hot for an extended period of time.. and if you pull her head way back she will cool off fast too! So as soon as you get a break in the action, grab a big chunk of throttle and pull her back and rest a few seconds.. she will be ready to go again in no time.. and you can cycle her like that all night long!! Oh and that method works for DW too! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Gibbage1
07-13-2005, 01:30 AM
I think I coined Target years ago. Hehehe.

As for testing IL2 stuff, im done till the next patch. The more I test, the more things I find, the more discusted I am with the current state of IL2. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_mad.gif

AerialTarget
07-13-2005, 02:13 AM
I agree, but at least it's a lot better than the old version. The patch is the only reason I'm still playing. The community is what disgusts me; the developer merely drives me crazy.

carguy_
07-13-2005, 02:26 AM
German planes take the same time to cool down as the overheat message was on the hud.

JG53Frankyboy
07-13-2005, 04:04 AM
the overheat behaviour of the R-2800 and R-2600 seems very odd, yes. compare it to the FIATs at the desert map http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
you can fly with them VERY LONG time with 110% power with cooler open.
you still get overhaet in a B-25 ore F4U at 100% at cooler open.
strange http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

i did not test how long you can fly with overhaet till engine damage.
for examples in a
109 its ~5min 20sec
IAR 80 ~7min http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Fw190A ~4min 45sec

MEGILE
07-13-2005, 07:25 AM
hmmm, the P-47 used to run cool at high altitude in 3.04.. didn't test in 4.00 though

Blackjack174
07-13-2005, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by JG53Frankyboy:
the overheat behaviour of the R-2800 and R-2600 seems very odd, yes. compare it to the FIATs at the desert map http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
you can fly with them VERY LONG time with 110% power with cooler open.
you still get overhaet in a B-25 ore F4U at 100% at cooler open.
strange http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_frown.gif

i did not test how long you can fly with overhaet till engine damage.
for examples in a
109 its ~5min 20sec
IAR 80 ~7min http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif
Fw190A ~4min 45sec
Hmm odd , open cooler on F6F-5 and F4U-1A 100% , no overheat in level flight with rad on 4 or 6 (depending on alt) http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
can you speciofy if you fly with any bombload etc. ?
Or what did I do wrong this time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

EDIT: I have the effect of slow cooling with the IAR 80 , lol , twisted http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/blink.gif

p1ngu666
07-13-2005, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
hmmm, the P-47 used to run cool at high altitude in 3.04.. didn't test in 4.00 though

up high, no issue other than it takes ages to overheat
down low, overheats quick
opposite of yak infact http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

the american radials where bulit for cruising, comercial airline and freight stuff, so they cruise well, but according to my engines book this ment they had issues for running at full power for along time, and they would have been designed different if they where for combat aircraft. he doesnt elaborate what issues or design changes http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

bmw motor is very similer i think, but the cowling and packaging is different