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Raider_356th
10-18-2004, 03:53 PM
Is it jus me or is it impossible to damage planes with the guns on the 38..its like im shooting blanks or nothing at all....

Raider_356th
10-18-2004, 03:53 PM
Is it jus me or is it impossible to damage planes with the guns on the 38..its like im shooting blanks or nothing at all....

FA_Maddog
10-18-2004, 04:03 PM
It's you.

Lateralus_14
10-18-2004, 04:07 PM
Yup, its just you. The 20mm is a bit hard to aim since it has a different trajectory than the .50s, thus you have to either choose between hitting with the .50s or hitting with the 20mm on some deflection shots. This is easily remedied by shooting at small angles of deflection, which is a good idea no matter what aircraft you're flying.

Raider_356th
10-18-2004, 04:09 PM
its the 50 cals that i use mostly, it jus takes forever to shoot somthing down..dont have that problem in the 51 or jug

VMF513_Sandman
10-18-2004, 04:16 PM
i've found the ammo shoots almost rediculously straight with the 20mm. u will need about 2 to 3x's more lead off angle for a deflection than with the 50 cal's, and even those will need about 1.5x more lead off vs wing guns.
btw, settin the cannon for 300 meters and carrying the gun pods will converge the to get there at the same time the 20mm and the nose guns ammo will...but this super concentrated fire will require precise aiming, but u'll carry the same amount of guns as the jug and alot more ammo.

Korolov
10-18-2004, 04:27 PM
See tracks:

P-38L vs 4xBf-109K-4 Ace AI

http://www.mechmodels.com/fbstuff/p38vsk4aces_1.zip

P-38J vs 4xBf-109G-2 Ace AI

http://www.mechmodels.com/fbstuff/p38vsg2aces_1.zip

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

VMF513_Sandman
10-18-2004, 06:56 PM
here's the 'once in a lifetime shot'. 38-L with gun pods set to 300m.

http://www.mechmodels.com/sandman/sndmn_p38lvshe111.zip

SkyChimp
10-18-2004, 06:58 PM
I think it's hard to hit since the guns are all so close together and it send out a narrow stream of bullets, unlike the open spread of the P-51 or P-47..

Snow_Wolf_
10-18-2004, 09:29 PM
i got my guns to the 328m for mg and cannon for the P-38 and german stuff it works for me for both. I can take out engines smoking cause wings to come off and so in guess it where your aiming at

WTE_Galway
10-18-2004, 09:48 PM
never had any trouble with the P38

now the emil on the other hand ....

F19_Ob
10-19-2004, 03:00 AM
I mostly fly online, and I like the p38 although I'm not that good in it. The ammo is pretty powerful if it hits and as allways the mg's might not have a great visual impact even if they severly cripples a plane. The cannon can cut a wing off a Fw190 on 6-700m and thats good enough for me. I also think its quite hard to aim on moving targets in the p38.
I have a hard time fighting the 109's since I cant turn with them long. I take every opportunity to fire on all ranges, long bursts and let the enemies fly into the bulletstream.
The p38 can take a few 20mm hits but it usually become totally useless after a 30mm hit although the wings still may provide lift. I have never made it home after a mk108 hit anyway.

I have noticed I can survive in it if I have some clouds to jump into when it heats up.
Surprisingly I have managed to escape quite many times with the aid of clouds, so I'll stick to "hide and seek" in the future too I think.
U really feel lucky when u manage to land. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

VMF513_Sandman
10-19-2004, 05:34 AM
ever notice this ship loves to hold speed when ur inbound for a landing

RotGolem
10-19-2004, 06:01 AM
The P-38 is the only plane with which I'm able to regularly saw off wings http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
I love the .50+20 mm combo!