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gflinch
03-15-2006, 07:00 PM
Been learching here for a while, and I am contemplating on building a 109 or 190 cockpit. I have many books on both planes and have all the stenceling for the outside of these planes, but I do not have much of anything for the cockpit writing or "placards" as some sources refer to them.

Does anyone have a list and/or close up pictures of these?

I own a sign shop here in PA/USA, so I can make up the stenciling and metal placards for myself and anyone else who would like them, but I need some referances.

Thanks for any help.

Greg

bubba3884
03-15-2006, 08:00 PM
I'm also building a Pit loosely based on 109, 190 and a few others. Here are 2 sites with excellent close-ups of 109 & 190 cockpits.

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/fw190cockpit/CockPitMap.html

http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/bf109cockpit/CockpitMap.html

You can click on the portion of the cockpit you want in detail and it will enlarge it for you.

I am currently finished most of the major components, just tinkering now with gear and flap levers and a few other extras.

I am curious about how you are going to make the placards, I was thinking of using blank decal sheets the modellers use with my home printer, but I'm not sure how well they work.

gflinch
03-16-2006, 05:57 AM
Thanks for the info, I will look into it asap. I will post some pictures of what I am making. Post some pictures of your progess, I love to get new ideas. OR email me gflinch@verizon<dot>net and I will discuss this further with you.

Greg

major_setback
03-16-2006, 08:08 AM
Ther are some good cockpits on this link. Click on the High resolution alternative.

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/wwii/books/cockpit/

major_setback
03-16-2006, 08:24 AM
From other sites:


http://members.macconnect.com/users/k/kchap/File%20Library/109K-4Layout.jpg

http://hkkk.fi/~yrjola/photo/planes/bf109/mersu_ohjaamo6.jpg (http://hkkk.fi/%7Eyrjola/photo/planes/bf109/mersu_ohjaamo6.jpg)

Taylortony
03-16-2006, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by gflinch:
Been learching here for a while, and I am contemplating on building a 109 or 190 cockpit.

Well to start getting the ball rolling I would suggest you fast track over to here http://cgi.ebay.de/Luftwaffe-Deutsche-Luftwaffe-WK-2-Fl...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.de/Luftwaffe-Deutsche-Luftwaffe-WK-2-Flieger_W0QQitemZ6261411463QQcategoryZ40820QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem)

and

http://cgi.ebay.de/Hauptgeraetebrett-Me-Bf-109-G-6-Repr...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.de/Hauptgeraetebrett-Me-Bf-109-G-6-Repro-Luftwaffe_W0QQitemZ6261586572QQcategoryZ15503QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem)


for this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://i16.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/66/de/25_1_b.JPG

http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/67/1c/50_1_b.JPG


Which is a replica of this
it looks full size and he ships to the US perhaps a German in here can translate

http://i5.ebayimg.com/03/i/06/20/3b/4f_0.JPG


also 190 cockpit manual

http://cgi.ebay.de/Fw-190-Fw190-Flugzeug-Cockpit-Ersatz...QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.de/Fw-190-Fw190-Flugzeug-Cockpit-Ersatzteilliste-Manual_W0QQitemZ6261764408QQcategoryZ15505QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem)

gflinch
03-16-2006, 05:59 PM
Thanks all for these they all provide a little help.

I already have plans so graciously provided by Pierre 2a on checksix forums for the Fw190 he has built.

As with many who build cockpits I plan on modifying it a little bit. I would really like to just build a BF110 cockpit for the dual engine features of that cockpit, but I plan on adding dual engine controls to mine and fudging the authenticity of the 190 (mistle pit perhaps?).

Probably going to order the fw190 cockpit CD/Book as I have bought some of this guys other stuff and it is the origional books and VERY detailed, just have to translate the german.

I will post my progress.

Kettenhunde
03-17-2006, 03:59 PM
Hey guys,

Check us out if you need schlids, insturmentenbretts, or even a pilots seat. We make all that stuff and it is perfect for a simpit. Canopy frame?? If it goes on an FW-190 we build it.

http://www.white1foundation.org/parts/instrumentenbrett.jpg

http://www.white1foundation.org/parts/schild.jpg

http://www.white1foundation.org/parts/pilotseat.jpg

All the best,

Crumpp

gflinch
03-17-2006, 07:28 PM
Kettenhunde,

Funny you drop by, I was down there visiting the museum, talked to Bob Velez about the plane, wanted to come back another day but didn't get the chance.

You guys really do nice work!

I really wish I could afford the real things, but for my little project I don't think the wife would .... well thats just it, she cooks and my simpit wont! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Anyhow keep in touch, I wish I could contribute my services to the foundation down there.

Greg

Kettenhunde
03-18-2006, 05:19 AM
Hey Greg!

Come by anytime. There is always grunt work to be done. You get a chance to stick your head into Black 3 to check out the refraction or the cockpit views?

All the best,

Crumpp

gflinch
03-18-2006, 10:47 AM
Wish I lived close by otherwise you may be putting a part number on me I would be there so much. I live in Pittsburgh, PA.

BTW: Black 3 seems to be comming along quite well. It seems that Ramon is quite handy with all the work he has done on the engine.

Kettenhunde
03-18-2006, 03:44 PM
Did he the prop shaft mounted on Black 3's engine when you visited?

Ramon is a God among machinist. Bob can practically do origami with aluminum!

The crew is very talented.

Hope you make it back it to see us!

All the best,

Crumpp

Taylortony
03-18-2006, 03:53 PM
I have been talking to one of the foundation via Email, I was involved in the ground running of a genuine FW190 and also believe it or not a ME410 Hornise in my distant past http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

zugfuhrer
03-19-2006, 03:08 AM
I dont recognise the revi 16B in the 109 K4 depicted in the link, with the one in the cockpit used in the game.
Where there many versions of sights in the "kurfurst"?

gflinch
03-30-2006, 03:36 PM
Updated my website today, check out the sim stuff forsale, and see the placards I made.

Also added info on my cockpit that I am planing on building.

http://mysite.verizon.net/gflinch/

gflinch
04-19-2006, 06:20 PM
Just to bump this message, wanted everyone to know what I have been making.

http://mysite.verizon.net/gflinch/images/German%20Decals%20005%20edit.jpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/gflinch/images/small%20DSCN2242.jpg

These are the decals for Blacksheep Squadron's cockpit

http://mysite.verizon.net/gflinch/German%20decals%202%20008.jpg

The last are my Fw-190 external stencils.

major_setback
04-21-2006, 06:18 PM
Really nice work, bump.