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VFS-214_Hawk
04-04-2007, 04:38 PM
I guys. I have acquired a small micro switch board removed from a Convair 440. I wanted to custom this thing for IL2 commands. It will be a complete rewire using computer hardware cept for the micro toggle switches.

Any suggestions?

VFS-214_Hawk
04-04-2007, 04:38 PM
I guys. I have acquired a small micro switch board removed from a Convair 440. I wanted to custom this thing for IL2 commands. It will be a complete rewire using computer hardware cept for the micro toggle switches.

Any suggestions?

p-11.cAce
04-04-2007, 04:59 PM
Desktop Aviator (http://www.desktopaviator.com/Products/USB_Interface/Model_805/USB.htm)

$25 and you are good to go (10 switches anyway). I'm using 3 of these units right now and I cannot reccomend them enough! A drunken stoned monkey with a soldering iron could build a switchpanel with one. There are others that have more capapcity but this usb interface is the easiest EVER - just solder your leads from your switches and plug it into a usb port or hub. XP loads the generic driver and IL2 "sees" it as a joystick. It literaly is as easu as plug it in, start the sim, assign buttons, and fly. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VFS-214_Hawk
04-04-2007, 05:39 PM
Thats cool, I like it! I will give this my best shot, if it dont work....I will get one or two of those things!

Waldo.Pepper
04-04-2007, 05:51 PM
I would look into this solution.

http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/

VFS-214_Hawk
04-04-2007, 07:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Waldo.Pepper:
I would look into this solution.

http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I can now tell this is beyond my capability!

Waldo.Pepper
04-04-2007, 09:15 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I can now tell this is beyond my capability! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nonsense! Bright lad like you! It's a bit of soldering. Practice on something of your wifes! (or girlfriend, or anything not yours) Seriously its not that hard.

Tintookkie
04-05-2007, 06:45 AM
http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/joystick/

This does look like what I need, as I would like to build a controller that has 4 pots, 3 for trimming (elevator, rudder & aileron) and one for prop pitch. And have a number of toggle switches maybe for engine selection, nav lights, gear up/down and so on and some push buttons to start engine and drop torp.
Problem is I'm a just a flight simmer that knows nothing about wiring. Does anyone Know of some link how to do the wiring or how to teach oneself how to do the wiring? Where does one start? Any ideas much appreciated.

VFS-214_Hawk
04-05-2007, 03:15 PM
Any way to take a typical keyboard and make it USB recognized as a joystick?

slipBall
04-05-2007, 03:23 PM
Here is a option to consider...although not a cheap way to go
http://www.chproducts.com/retail/mfp.html

VFS-214_Hawk
04-05-2007, 03:25 PM
Holy Cow thats nice....yeap too much for me right now!

VFS-214_Hawk
04-05-2007, 04:59 PM
Slip,is this the same stuff? This is what I want. Would rather have toggle switches but this will do.

Tired of switching keyboards every time I want to play.

http://forums.netwings.org/gallery/files/5/keyboard_original.jpg

Sokol__1
04-05-2007, 06:19 PM
VFS-214_hawk

Leo Bodnar BU0836 USB Board is the best bang for your buck.
Whit suplied pinouts is very easy to hook in your panel, whit
8 axis bonus.

But if your dont have soldering skils, hare a "bolt on" option:

http://www.ultimarc.com/images/a-pac.jpg
http://www.ultimarc.com/

BTW- Anyway you had needed to weld the wires in the swtichs on rear of his panel...

Sokol1

WB_Outlaw
04-05-2007, 09:44 PM
I used Bodnar's USB controller for my rig. It's VERY easy to do. I made custom connectors but Futaba servo leads work nicely and you can purchase them at your local hobby store. I would recommend that you NOT solder directly to the board but it can be done that way.

The controller is mounted in the plastic project box (from Radio Shack) that sits on the floor. The "pins" are #6 screws and the ones on the top are for the 8 analog axes and the 12 along the side are the 6x6 matrix for the buttons. It supports up to 36 buttons but I only have the manual prop pitch one (mounted on top of the prop pitch lever) hooked up now.

The mounting bracket is made up of aluminum angle and sheet from Lowes. The only measurements I made were to cut the angle. Everything else I just eyeballed.

The elevator trim is a 10 turn high precision pot which cost about $20. The others are cheapos (about $4) from Radio Shack.

http://www.whtboys.org/IL-2/TrimSetup/TrimSetup01.jpg

http://www.whtboys.org/IL-2/TrimSetup/TrimSetup02.jpg


http://www.whtboys.org/IL-2/TrimSetup/TrimSetup03.jpg

p-11.cAce
04-06-2007, 08:31 AM
Nice- is that a modified Akers-Barnes? If not you just gave an idea of how to modify mine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

WB_Outlaw
04-08-2007, 01:06 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by p-11.cAce:
Nice- is that a modified Akers-Barnes? If not you just gave an idea of how to modify mine http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

If you're asking me, then the answer is no cuz I don't know what an Akers-Barnes is. The cockpit is all home built out of 3/4" and 1/2" particle board. It's a horrible and embarassing nightmare but is meant to be only a prototype. I am in the design process of a mostly aluminum (and probably a little bit of steel) fully skinned single seat cockpit with a 4 engine throttle quadrant complete with throttles, mixture, prop speed/pitch, wastegate, and intercooler controls. Due to my carpal tunnel problems I will probably stick with an off the shelf stick on the right side rather than a center positioned stick. When it comes to seats you can't beat a car seat for off the shelf adjustability and you can get a decent one for around $200 at Pep-Boys. The current one is the driver's seat from a 1985 Fiero but it's pretty beat up so the new rig will get a new seat as well.

--Outlaw.