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womenfly
02-18-2005, 06:55 AM
Does anyone know?
http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW4/Me-262-60.jpg

womenfly
02-18-2005, 06:55 AM
Does anyone know?
http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW4/Me-262-60.jpg

Cajun76
02-18-2005, 07:00 AM
Groceries? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

-HH- Beebop
02-18-2005, 07:11 AM
I belive it is additional fuel. I've heard of the Germans experimenting with towed fuel tnaks.

Or I coiuld be wrong. Perhaps we're seeing the birth of a baby 262. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

Aaron_GT
02-18-2005, 07:33 AM
I think it is a towed bomb, the idea being that it is to be released into a bomber box and detonated.

KGr.HH-Sunburst
02-18-2005, 07:45 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by -HH- Beebop:
I belive it is additional fuel. I've heard of the Germans experimenting with towed fuel tnaks.

Or I coiuld be wrong. Perhaps we're seeing the birth of a baby 262. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

LOL http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

hop2002
02-18-2005, 08:13 AM
Probably a bomb. They experimented with towed bombs after Hitler demanded the 262 be used as a bomber, without much success.

Swivet
02-18-2005, 08:16 AM
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Nobody likes backseat drivers.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif.

Udidtoo
02-18-2005, 08:18 AM
I don't know it this http://www.answers.com/topic/glide-bomb-2 is actually whats pictured but still an intresting read. I was surprised that the 1st telivision guidance systems came about in mid war Germany being that TV was pretty unrefiened even in the years following the war.

TAGERT.
02-18-2005, 08:19 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by womenfly:
Does anyone know?
http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW4/Me-262-60.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>That is the speed hack device used to induce warping

Owlsphone
02-18-2005, 08:30 AM
It's bring your kid to work day!

Brotrob
02-18-2005, 08:34 AM
Hello,

it was a try to give the 262 a very heavy bombload without overloading its gear or the problem of the bombrack (only two small bombracks each side of the front-gear, called "Wikingerschiffe", which couldnt cary more than an SC 250 each).

It could be done wih bombs and auxilliary-fuel-tanks, but was only experimental and never used in praxis.

LStarosta
02-18-2005, 08:37 AM
The 262 in clean configuration already takes forever to accelerate...

Zyzbot
02-18-2005, 08:40 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by womenfly:
Does anyone know?
http://www.warbirdpictures.com/LCBW4/Me-262-60.jpg <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


It may be what was called a Deichselschlepp--- towed fuel tank.

www.strange-mecha.com/german/luftvaffe/me/me262v10.JPG (http://www.strange-mecha.com/german/luftvaffe/me/me262v10.JPG)

Mr_Nakajima
02-18-2005, 09:12 AM
This same picture appears in David Baker's book 'Messerschmitt Me-262', ISBN 1-86126-078-4.

It is a Deichselschlepp, a towed SC1000 bomb suspended beneath the wooden wing section of a V1 flying bomb. The wheels were jettisoned by an explosive bolt on take-off. The intention was the bomb would be released in a shallow dive, after which the Me-262 would jettison the wing and tow bar.

Oscillations and pitching were serious problems and the device was never used operationally - on one occasion the pilot had to bail out when the porpoising effect became uncontrollable.

HeinzBar
02-18-2005, 09:31 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Mr_Nakajima:
This same picture appears in David Baker's book 'Messerschmitt Me-262', ISBN 1-86126-078-4.

It is a Deichselschlepp, a towed SC1000 bomb suspended beneath the wooden wing section of a V1 flying bomb. The wheels were jettisoned by an explosive bolt on take-off. The intention was the bomb would be released in a shallow dive, after which the Me-262 would jettison the wing and tow bar.

Oscillations and pitching were serious problems and the device was never used operationally - on one occasion the pilot had to bail out when the porpoising effect became uncontrollable. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

S!,
Nakajima is correct. This photo has been used in several books to describle the Deichselschelepp. Various bomb weights were tried and none were found to be satisfactory. As described above, this configuration was found to be unsuitable and was never pursued outside the original findings.

HB

womenfly
02-18-2005, 12:55 PM
Hey thanks guy's. Saw the picture and was just wondering. Really amazing what was tried .... can you just imagine what the pilots must thought? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/heart.gif

Taylortony
02-18-2005, 12:56 PM
you never know it might be pushing http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Waldo.Pepper
02-18-2005, 01:23 PM
Seen that before.

Love the idea eh? Explosive bolts near a 1000lb bomb on a pole 20ft from you.

There's a winner of an idea.

3.JG51_BigBear
02-18-2005, 04:04 PM
Speaking of towing strange things, does anybody have any pics of the B-29 towing the YP-80. I know it happened once and it created such terrible stability problems that they never did it again but I would love to see a pic of this. I guess the YP-80 was going to be towed in because it didn't have the range of say a P-47 or a P-51. Would have been a really cool concept if it worked.

WTE_Ibis
02-18-2005, 07:28 PM
It was an incentive for the pilot to attack
large bomber formations.
If he didn't attack it could be detonated remotely by lead pilot. Called "Das gross shtik incentiff".
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