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Metatron_123
06-03-2007, 01:17 PM
Wouldn't it be great if someone
(hopefully ubisoft) came up with a 'complete' korean era flight sim? I'm imagining a sim that includes flyable Grumman Panthers, Tigercat, Douglas Skyknight, Lavochkin La-9, Yak-9 P , Hawker Sea Fury, Seafire mark 47, F4U5 ,Twin Mustang, Il-10, F-51 as well as the well known protagonists, Mig-15 and F-86

MEGILE
06-03-2007, 01:20 PM
hmmmm sounds good.

I'm gonna email Luthier right now.

I can see it now... based on the Storm of War engine.. a Korea sim, with Migs and Sabres... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

MEGILE
06-03-2007, 01:24 PM
damn it brewster your image file expired, you suck.

Metatron, there is one in the werks.

And on the 3rd the Oleg did say... let there be Sabres and Migs.
Actually, I haven't seen Oleg give it the nod yet. But I am frequently blind for weeks at a time.

Someone hit the guy with a picture

John_Wayne_
06-03-2007, 01:34 PM
Something to play with while you're waiting.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/fsx2007-05-2119-13-36-56.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/fsx2007-05-2119-20-33-21.jpg

Divine-Wind
06-03-2007, 01:36 PM
FS9/X, right?

John_Wayne_
06-03-2007, 01:40 PM
Yup.

DuxCorvan
06-03-2007, 01:46 PM
No Panthers nor Cougars. Bets? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

Divine-Wind
06-03-2007, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
No Panthers nor Cougars. Bets? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Skyraider won the war.

Termitedelight
06-03-2007, 02:07 PM
The RCAF F-86 looks great! The ***ot doesn't look too bad.

AKA_TAGERT
06-03-2007, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
hmmmm sounds good.

I'm gonna email Luthier right now.

I can see it now... based on the Storm of War engine.. a Korea sim, with Migs and Sabres... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif LOL

John_Wayne_
06-03-2007, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by Termitedelight:
The RCAF F-86 looks great! The ***ot doesn't look too bad.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/fs92007-06-0321-15-29-07600.jpg


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/fs92007-06-0321-21-34-73600.jpg

Both come in Korean colors, but your'e right,
the F-86 by Kirk Ollson is better.

Available as a free download here:
http://www.simviation.com/fs2004military106.htm

Slats and hardwing versions, 26 skins plus a link to a neat sound package.
Seems to work in FSX but I haven't given it a real workout yet.

Taylortony
06-03-2007, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by Metatron_123:
Wouldn't it be great if someone
(hopefully ubisoft) came up with a 'complete' korean era flight sim? I'm imagining a sim that includes flyable Grumman Panthers, Tigercat, Douglas Skyknight, Lavochkin La-9, Yak-9 P , Hawker Sea Fury, Seafire mark 47, F4U5 ,Twin Mustang, Il-10, F-51 as well as the well known protagonists, Mig-15 and F-86

yes, as said its being developed.........see

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/4651068855

leitmotiv
06-03-2007, 03:33 PM
Is that the Bear Studios MiG-15 for FSX? It has a working gunsight and shoots tracers. I just got it and started using it. Thanks for it the tip on the F-86.

Here's where you can get the MiG:

http://www.flight1.com/products.asp?product=MiG-15

John_Wayne_
06-03-2007, 03:48 PM
The Mig's another Simviation freebie - never heard of the Bear Studios one till now. Many thanks for the link. Checking it out now http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
06-03-2007, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by Megile:
hmmmm sounds good.

I'm gonna email Luthier right now.

I can see it now... based on the Storm of War engine.. a Korea sim, with Migs and Sabres... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/inlove.gif

I emailed him as well. Im certain he will bow to our wishes. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

VMF-214_HaVoK
06-03-2007, 05:20 PM
Originally posted by John_Wayne_:
Something to play with while you're waiting.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/fsx2007-05-2119-13-36-56.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b71/Big_Duke/fsx2007-05-2119-20-33-21.jpg

Got a link for those models? Id like to take them up for a test flight.

John_Wayne_
06-03-2007, 06:13 PM
Link for the F-86 is under the smaller pics I posted above. The Mig came from the same site.

Trouble with FS9/X is I treat it like a model railroad. Got no idea how the planes should behave in real life, but they sure look pretty going round and round. These two feel right to me, but I'll admit I'm no jet expert.

leitmotiv
06-03-2007, 06:32 PM
The Bear Studios MiG-15 is quite an accurate FM. Takes forever to to come unstuck even with 50% fuel, waddles into the sky, starts to get going at medium altitude, and there you can begin to stick her nose up and climb nearly straight up. Hates sharp turns, loops, and rolls. I'm telling ya'll, a Korean fight will be damned interesting. Add too that certain peculiar bangs come from the engine if you get too frisky with your throttle. According to an RAF tac manual I glanced at on MiG vs F-86 tactics, the MiG rules at high altitude in the vertical, but the F-86 has it if it tries to dogfight---the MiG was not a dogfighter at all.

LEXX_Luthor
06-03-2007, 07:28 PM
Online F-86 Anton player::
Its just a game. The MiG arcade gamers are cheating playing BnZ in the vertical all the time.

Online F-86 Emil player::
Luthier, please model Pilot Ear Pressure Exhaustion so the MiG players are forced to play realistically instead of BnZ all the time.

Online F-86 Frederich player::
This is the most realistic air combat simulation.

http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.gif
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/35.gif

BnZ is Dead, here, at teh ubi.com.

woofiedog
06-04-2007, 05:51 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif Panther's, Cougar's and P-82's... Yes Indeed!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/img00060.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/img00042.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/img00049.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/img00048.jpg

leitmotiv
06-04-2007, 07:09 AM
Fi fi fo fum, I sense a SF mod!

leitmotiv
06-04-2007, 07:19 AM
Here's one for you , woofiedog:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...60300960.html?sub=AR (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/03/AR2007060300960.html?sub=AR)

ploughman
06-04-2007, 11:15 AM
My dog can order pizza, open a tin of beer, and operate a remote control. That's the three "O"s right there, order,open and operate, that are prerequisites under Wiltshire for voting. Not bad for a gun dog who's scared of loud noises eh?

leitmotiv
06-04-2007, 01:09 PM
That qualifies for President here. Hey, get to work on the airborne novel slacker!

woofiedog
06-04-2007, 01:39 PM
Woofie has us doing the tricks for her! LoL Guess that counts for a Canine High IQ.

She knows... http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Drive the truck and take me for a ride.
Open the box of biscuits and pass me one.
Get my pillow... so I can take a dog nap.
Time to take me out.

ShrikeHawk
06-04-2007, 03:20 PM
Hey Woofiedog, where did you get those screenshots from? The cougar looks fabulous!

ShrikeHawk

woofiedog
06-04-2007, 06:23 PM
ShrikeHawk... They are screen shots I took from WoV/WoE games. Glad you enjoyed them.

The Cougar and the Panther are addon aircraft located at CombatAce & Column.5 web sites.

Links...
http://www.column5.us/aircraft.shtml
http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?automodule=downloads&showcat=2

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/img00036.jpg

LEXX_Luthor
06-04-2007, 06:32 PM
woofiedog...

The 4 droptanks on F-82. Is there a reference to this ability to carry 4 tanks, other than the nonstop "Betty Joe" flight from Hawaii to New York? I need to know. F-82 would be the prime SAC escort fighter deep into Siberia from Chinese bases during the late 40s. There's an F-82 pilot's manual available on CD. I've been thinking of getting it just to find this out for sure.

Divine-Wind
06-04-2007, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
Fi fi fo fum, I sense a SF mod!
There are a ton of Korean-era add-ons, and a Korean Campaign was just recently updated if I'm not mistaken.

Really fun stuff.

woofiedog
06-04-2007, 07:18 PM
LEXX_Luthor...It states in the book, Story of the P-51 Fighter, by Robert Gruenhagen.

The outward wing panels housed the 600 gal fuel supply and additional underwing racks could hold dropable fuel tanks that would provide 1045 gals.

I have only the photo of the Betty Joe with such tanks... although one photo on page 140 of the above book shows a P-82 with bombs on the outward racks, rockets on the next two racks and the extra 50 cal pod on a middle rack. Could they add 4 fuel tanks to the four outer racks??? Sorry no direct answer on that.

In three of my books about the P-51's... none tell the exact load for the P-82 of fuel or ordence. Also have... Mustang at War, Roger Freeman and P-51 Mustang by Grinsell/Watanabe.

Range: 1,600 miles
Eight additional .50-caliber machine guns in special center section nacelle
Five rocket-launching racks, carrying five rockets each
Other alternate payload: 7,200 pounds of bombs, photographic nacelle or 2,000-pound torpedo

woofiedog
06-04-2007, 07:49 PM
ShrikeHawk.... I should have stated that there are many addon features for the WoV/WoE/SF series by the Tremendous Community at the above sites... CombatAce/Column5.

And it's All For Free... what more could you ask for! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/img00022.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v438/woofiedog/img00045.jpg
The highest I could get the U2 up in altitude. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

BillyTheKid_22
06-04-2007, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Divine-Wind:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
No Panthers nor Cougars. Bets? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif
Skyraider won the war. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif SkyRaider won the war!! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif



http://www.fspilotshop.com/images/fsx06rb.jpg

Copperhead310th
06-04-2007, 08:34 PM
i would love to fly the f-82 against the 109Z. lol
f-82 would smoke the 109z. lol

Korolov1986
06-04-2007, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
i would love to fly the f-82 against the 109Z. lol
f-82 would smoke the 109z. lol

No, the F-82's wing would snap off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

Copperhead310th
06-04-2007, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by Korolov1986:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Copperhead310th:
i would love to fly the f-82 against the 109Z. lol
f-82 would smoke the 109z. lol

No, the F-82's wing would snap off. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

oh. yeag. good point. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif

JG53Frankyboy
06-05-2007, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by DuxCorvan:
No .............Cougars. Bets? http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif

sure non:
The first unit to receive the F9F-6 was VF-32, which converted to the Cougar in November of 1952. However, the Cougar was <span class="ev_code_RED"> too late to fly combat sorties </span> in Korea."

ShrikeHawk
06-05-2007, 10:40 AM
Hey Woofiedog, Nice find! I see they also have a Seafire Mk47, Sea Fury, and a Skyraider...oh yeah. I'm trying to find out now if carrier ops are supported.

First Eagles looks very good too. I wonder which of all the products (WoV,WoE) these add-ons go to. Or maybe any of them? Anyway, thanks for the tip!

ShrikeHawk

ojcar1971
06-05-2007, 12:53 PM
I have this SF mod and downloaded and added myself the F-82, B-26, Skyknight, La-9, Firefly...
Waiting to IL-10 or Tu-2...

mortoma
06-05-2007, 01:04 PM
It would simply have to have F-80 and F-84. These were used extensively for G'attack and interdiction roles. Also, the first Mig kill was done in a Shooting Star!!!!

BillyTheKid_22
06-05-2007, 08:16 PM
http://www.theheavenlyhangar.com/ahmembers/images/panther_screen.jpg



http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif



http://www.bensakoguchi.com/pics/bb-sakoguchi-025.jpg