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Insuber
10-27-2007, 06:55 PM
Hi,

Did anyone read "Courage Alone: The Italian Airforce 1940-1943" by Chris Dunning? I saw it on Amazon at 500 euro ... how can a 2nd hand WWII aviation book be so expensive ???

BTW according to the reviews the book gets rid of some allied war propaganda stuff.

Regards,
Insuber

DKoor
10-27-2007, 07:02 PM
Black Cross Red Star vol.1 was over $700 IIRC...
The insanity.

horseback
10-27-2007, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by DKoor:
Black Cross Red Star vol.1 was over $700 IIRC...
The insanity. Really?!?!? I'll sell you my copy of BCRS for $350...

cheers

horseback

R_Target
10-27-2007, 11:02 PM
I've seen other crazy stuff on Amazon. Somebody's selling Winged Samurai for $133.50. I got it on e-bay for nine dollars.

Too bad though, looks like a pretty decent book:


Italy's involvement in World War 2 has often been practically omitted from works by serious historians who based their research only on the accounts of American, British Empire and German combatants.

Kurfurst__
10-28-2007, 02:36 AM
500 Euro for a book, it`s a joke, especially with this subject.. I`d understand if the book would be about neural surgery, but this...

Good luck Amazon. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

DKoor
10-28-2007, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by horseback:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DKoor:
Black Cross Red Star vol.1 was over $700 IIRC...
The insanity. Really?!?!? I'll sell you my copy of BCRS for $350...

cheers

horseback </div></BLOCKQUOTE>What a bargain!
Now I feel stealer-like he he.

flakwagen
10-28-2007, 11:42 AM
In the early 90s I acquired a book about SS cloth insignia that had a suggested retail price of $200 USD. A generous older collector bought it for me as a birthday present. Some books have such a small run that the author must charge this price in order to pay the bills. He or she must also take into account that revised versions might need to be published later. $500 for that particular book does seem a little nuts, though. How many pages is it?

Flak

leitmotiv
10-28-2007, 11:58 AM
The Italian book is a classic by a top notch researcher, and the only book on the subject in English which is worthwhile. I paid $300 for a rare two-volume history of the Russo-Japanese naval war + other excesses even more extreme. The way you get around this is to request these hugely expensive books from inter-library loan and photocopy them. I did this for years. When I think of the amount of money I throw at a flight sim computer rig, thousands, a book no matter how expensive, is a bargain.

Blutarski2004
10-28-2007, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by leitmotiv:
The Italian book is a classic by a top notch researcher, and the only book on the subject in English which is worthwhile. I paid $300 for a rare two-volume history of the Russo-Japanese naval war + other excesses even more extreme. The way you get around this is to request these hugely expensive books from inter-library loan and photocopy them. I did this for years. When I think of the amount of money I throw at a flight sim computer rig, thousands, a book no matter how expensive, is a bargain.


..... I agree. Another thing to consider is that, assuming one doen't buy stupidly, no one will ever lose money buying a well-done limited press run book. In fact, they tend to gain considerably in value over time.

Insuber
10-29-2007, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by Blutarski2004:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by leitmotiv:
The Italian book is a classic by a top notch researcher, and the only book on the subject in English which is worthwhile. I paid $300 for a rare two-volume history of the Russo-Japanese naval war + other excesses even more extreme. The way you get around this is to request these hugely expensive books from inter-library loan and photocopy them. I did this for years. When I think of the amount of money I throw at a flight sim computer rig, thousands, a book no matter how expensive, is a bargain.


..... I agree. Another thing to consider is that, assuming one doen't buy stupidly, no one will ever lose money buying a well-done limited press run book. In fact, they tend to gain considerably in value over time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



All true,

But still ... 500 euros = 720 dollars ... for a 270 pages book which costed some 30 dollars when it was published in late '90s ... it is simply a robbery.

Regards,
Insuber

DKoor
10-29-2007, 05:46 AM
Not bad for ~$45.00 book from year 2000.....

http://i22.tinypic.com/ne8exf.jpg

It was actually way more expensive than this some time ago.......but I see they lowered the price now.
Great bargain!

whiteladder
10-29-2007, 05:48 AM
Its all about supply and demand.

I've been looking for Napoleonic Uniforms: VOL 1 to 4 by John r. Elting in the second hand book section of charity shops for ages, you would be lucky to find a copy online for less than 125/$250 per double volume.

Insuber
11-03-2007, 05:28 PM
MEGALOL ... found a *new* book "Courage Alone etc", translated and recently re-edited with more pictures, at 14 euros ... goodbye Amazon ...

Regards,
Insuber

leitmotiv
11-03-2007, 07:34 PM
Prudent shopping and patience pays off. I was needing to replace Ewing's classic monograph on the cruiser SAN FRANCISCO. Best price I could find was a mint copy for 90 dollars US. The seller was an idiot, and I didn't buy. A few months later I found a slightly-dinged-but-mint copy on Amazon (which some seem to blame for the scarcity of good books!) for five bucks. I was stunned. Amazon also found the impossible-to-find volume of the massive multi-volume Me 262 history for which I had searched fruitlessly for months, and the price was very reasonable. Bibliophiles will always pay for quality books. They are the only defense against the massive amount of garbage which proliferates on the internet. The late father of a friend of mine, who had judiciously collected for forty years, had a library which Johns Hopkins University paid several million to acquire---much to the delight of his wife and son. The collector was just a local CPA, not a rich man, but he bought wisely. When I think of the tons of money I spend on my game computer, a completely profitless investment, I sometimes want to kick myself.

DxyFlyr
11-03-2007, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by DKoor:
Not bad for ~$45.00 book from year 2000.....

http://i22.tinypic.com/ne8exf.jpg

It was actually way more expensive than this some time ago.......but I see they lowered the price now.
Great bargain!


What a small world. That was my BCRS vol.1 listing. It just sold on the 1st. Funny thing is, I think I was drop shipped. The buyer had me ship it to someone else. I google-earthed the address I shipped it to and it looks like a business district.

Not a big deal, I guess. I get what I had asked for it. I just wonder how much they are getting for it. heh

I still can't believe someone paid $450 for it. ...especially knowing that there's another edition coming with non-blurry maps in color no less! I'll be pre-ordering that one but it won't be for $450.

R_Target
11-04-2007, 01:19 AM
I just saw somebody selling AJ Press #20 for $420. It's still in print and available from AirConnection in N. America for about $60. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif

werla
11-04-2007, 06:29 AM
I still can't believe someone paid $450 for it. ...especially knowing that there's another edition coming with non-blurry maps in color no less! I'll be pre-ordering that one but it won't be for $450.

Are sure there is another edition coming? I havent seen anything about it.

I was hovering above this a long time, but i decided it was just to expensive.

Bye the way, this one have been up a long time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TC6HTW/ref=d...id=1194182355&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TC6HTW/ref=dp_olp_2/105-9586505-1410043?ie=UTF8&qid=1194182355&sr=8-3)
$953,50 THAT'S expensive.

DxyFlyr
11-04-2007, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by werla:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I still can't believe someone paid $450 for it. ...especially knowing that there's another edition coming with non-blurry maps in color no less! I'll be pre-ordering that one but it won't be for $450.

Are sure there is another edition coming? I havent seen anything about it.

I was hovering above this a long time, but i decided it was just to expensive.

Bye the way, this one have been up a long time http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TC6HTW/ref=d...id=1194182355&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000TC6HTW/ref=dp_olp_2/105-9586505-1410043?ie=UTF8&qid=1194182355&sr=8-3)
$953,50 THAT'S expensive. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought it was in here that the author mentioned a reprint. This is the only mention I can find at the moment...
Bergstrom Post (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/23110283/m/6321060323/r/6321060323#6321060323)

Well, he doesn't sound very definitive at all. I guess we could call Eagle Editions and ask. I'm actually more interested in the "new" volume 1. The first edition is great. I read it three or four times through, but I was excited about getting better maps and pictures. 'Cause you know, it's all about the pretty pictures.



edit--------------

This looks like the book he was talking about...

Barbarossa (http://www.bergstrombooks.elknet.pl/barbarossabook.htm)

Time to get the checkbook out.

Insuber
11-04-2007, 07:51 AM
Definitely there is a speculation at the expenses of us WWII aviation fans. They believe that we are willing to spend whatever amount for our hobby. My personal suggestion: do not buy any modern out-of-print book at more than its original list price.

Regards,
Insuber

DKoor
11-04-2007, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by Insuber:
Definitely there is a speculation at the expenses of us WWII aviation fans. They believe that we are willing to spend whatever amount for our hobby. My personal suggestion: do not buy any modern out-of-print book at more than its original list price.

Regards,
Insuber +1

For instance BCRS#1 is a 2000y edition...... and it goes 10 times higher up in price..........
I asked several times why they don't just reprint it since it is a popular book and surely they wont have any probs selling it...........

Airmail109
11-04-2007, 10:06 AM
Did you know a First edition Edition Harry Potter book signed is worth 14,500 dollars

La7_brook
11-04-2007, 03:33 PM
Thats Vol 3 for 99 euros , Vol 1 pulls the bucks , but that good reading too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

Insuber
11-04-2007, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by La7_brook:
Thats Vol 3 for 99 euros , Vol 1 pulls the bucks , but that good reading too http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif


Errr ... sorry, I deleted my post few seconds later ... you were quicker ...


Regards,
Insuber