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KrasniyYastreb
07-05-2005, 10:37 PM
I've stumbled across an interview with Girogriy M. Ryabushko, a Sturmovik pilot during the war. It is rather extensive and interesting. If there is sufficient interest I can translate the more interesting parts.

Tooz_69GIAP
07-05-2005, 10:48 PM
definately, I'd like to read that!

jeroen_R90S
07-06-2005, 12:08 AM
Did someone say 'ground attack'???

Yes please, love to read it! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Jeroen

megalagon
07-06-2005, 12:21 AM
Yes Please (with suger on top http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-tongue.gif) I'd love to read it.

Art-J
07-06-2005, 02:27 AM
Bring it on! Since I'm rather miserable fighter pilot, I'm thinking more about groundpounding lately http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif. Suggestions from a veteran might be helpy.

Cajun76
07-06-2005, 02:32 AM
Would love to hear it. Perhaps you can ask Ivan for some help, if he's willing. I remember him translating an article on the P-47's service (or the lack thereof) in Soviet hands.

WTE_Ibis
07-06-2005, 05:58 AM
Well, don't keep us all in suspenders http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif let's have it man,out with it,c'mon. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/34.gif

msalama
07-06-2005, 07:05 AM
Yeeeeesssss plllleaaaase PLEASE PUH-LEEZE!!!

Would LOVE to read it...

F19_Ob
07-06-2005, 08:11 AM
Stories from il-2 pilots are rare.

Did he by chance manage to shoot down any planes?
I know there were only a few who got any training at all to shoot at planes.

TheCrux
07-06-2005, 02:29 PM
...And another one. Love to read it.

Thanks

FoolTrottel
07-06-2005, 03:24 PM
Interesting!
Please do translate and post!

But ... only the interesting parts .... ?
Just kiddin', anything from an Original Pilot will do!

KrasniyYastreb
07-06-2005, 07:07 PM
Ok here goes.

Some notes before I start. Words that I will only transliterate:
Sturmovik - one who storms. Here it means one who performs ground-atack. It can refer to either the plane or the pilot.

Things I put in square brackets [] are my own comments/explanations.

<span class="ev_code_GREEN">-------------------------</span>

Excerpts from Interview with Hero of the Soviet Union Grigoriy Maximovich Ryabushko, an airman of the 828th GSHAP

Question: On what types of planes did you train in the academy? How much time was spent on each type, if there were several? How much flight time did you have after completing training? In your opinion, was the preparation sufficient?

G.R. With the beginning of the war, there were serious changes in our school as well. Soon, in July-August 1941(I don't remember exactly), an order was issued at the academy that 60 first-year cadets having the best physical and theoretical preparation would be transferred to a separate group, for a special course of training. I ended up in this group as well... ... Only later did I understand that this special course was just a very accelerated training program in our school...

... There were 8 or 9 of us in my flight instructor's group. In the beginning we learned to fly on the UTI-4. This was a transitional two seater for training pilots for the I-16. How much dual instruction I received, I can't say now exactly, but it was somewhere around 15-16 flights before I flew alone in the I-16.

The I-16 was an incredibly strict and difficult airplane. In addition, there was no automation in retracting the landing gear. I still remember where and which levers to move, and in which direction to spin the 42 revolutions of the flywheel to raise or lower the gear.

On the I-16 I made about 10 flights around the pattern, then started to flying into the "zone"[practise area] to work on aerobatics. The I-16s that we trained on were of the old type(I don't remember which one), armed with 2 synchronized SHKAS. Even we, the "green" cadets, understood that this fighter was really obsolete. Notwithstanding we expected to get machines of the new type in the regiments.

We trained intensively, at a very accelerated pace. Only at the very end of training did we conduct several practise dogfights, and once or twice we fired at cones. Why did we shoot so little? Simply there was nothing to tow the cones with. Our instructors told us: "First learn to fly well, but air battles and shooting you will learn in those same air battles." How many hours each of us had on the I-16 by the end of training I now can't say presicely. 16-20 maybe, 22 maximum, not more. We trained so quickly that already in December of 1941 we graduated the academy with ceritifcates of fighter pilots, with the military rank of sergeant.

Of course this training that we received from July to Dember of 1941 was insufficient, especially considering that your opponent is not just somebody, but a fighter pilot of the Luftwaffe, in a Messershmit Bf.109. They gave us only the bare minimum of pilot preparation. A real fighter pilot you can't prepare in that amount of time, it's impossible. We were not suitable for fighter combat, if only because during our training process we did not gain two of the most important qualities for a fighte pilot - an ability to shoot accurtely and to correctly look about in the air. To look especially. We did not see a ****, not in the air, not on the ground. (this I understood only at the front.) Nevertheless, it seemed to us then that we were adequately prepared. We felt ourselves to be real cool fighter pilots.

....
[March 1942] We reached moscow by train. Slowly, with difficulty and many train transfers. Moscow was striking - blacked out, drab, with patrols on the streets. But it must be said that these patrols were very helpful in our search for the Directorate[of the VVS}, and so we found it quicjly and immediately received assignment to the Karelian front, to the 7th Air Army.

Q: In which regiment of the 7th Air Army did you end up?
G.R. I ended up in the 828th Shturmovoi Air Regiment, which was based on the Podumezh'ye aerodrome, 8-12km from the city Kem'. At that time the regiment was still considered mixed, a fighter-sturmovik regiment. The regiment was relatively "young", that is recently formed, and was armed with a mixed soup of I-16, I-153 and I-15bis fighter(that's why it was considered a fighter-sturmovik regiment, because the I-153, not to mention the I-15bis, could clearly not be called real fighters.) Now I understand that this "mix", was not because of the good life. Material losses during the 1st year of the war were gigantic, and so they equipped the regiments with anything that was available.

We were greeted very warmly, and I credit that to the regiment's commander, then major Mitrofan Petrovich Krasnolutskiy. Krasnolutskiy was already a Hero of the Soviet Union. We, the newly arrived replacements, lined up. Krasnolutskiy looked at us strenly and said: "I congratulte you with arrival in the regiment. We really need replacements, but before the battles you, fighter pilots, need to get stronger and train." To tell the truth, our appearance wasn't great - all very thin, almost starved. We did not get an excess of food at the academy, and then the road with hardly any food. Only later, towards the end of the war, Krasnolutskiy told me: "I looked at you then, chaps, and I felt so sorry for you. You were just boys! How could you be sent into combat?! It would be to certain death, you would all die."
..............

More to come later, including how he becomes a Sturmovik pilot.

megalagon
07-06-2005, 08:38 PM
Thanks for taking the time to do this.

We get to read a lot about the U.S., British, and even German pilots and the training they receive. Not very often do we get to read first hand accounts from any Russian pilots.

Good reading. Look forward to your next post.

Udidtoo
07-06-2005, 08:43 PM
Thank you sir. Much appreciated.

p1ngu666
07-06-2005, 08:47 PM
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Tooz_69GIAP
07-06-2005, 09:14 PM
excellent stuff!

msalama
07-06-2005, 09:56 PM
A great article. Thank you!

wayno7777
07-06-2005, 10:04 PM
Wow, don't stop!!! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Enforcer572005
07-06-2005, 11:43 PM
thats great! a little known subj matter, few soviet accounts seem to be availible....i keep hoping that theres a few books that get translated someday....if there are any. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

does any1 know if the article on soviet P47 use is in the archives on here? ive always wondered about that ........ http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Old_Canuck
07-06-2005, 11:58 PM
Good introduction and your comment was helpful. Looking forward to part 2 http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

Grendel-B
07-07-2005, 02:26 AM
Please do continue with the translation!

ausmondo
07-07-2005, 02:57 AM
We did not see a ****, not in the air, not on the ground. (this I understood only at the front.) Nevertheless, it seemed to us then that we were adequately prepared. We felt ourselves to be real cool fighter pilots.

I like that bit.
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I look forward to 'Part Two'.
Thank you.
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KrasniyYastreb
07-07-2005, 11:03 PM
You're very welcome. Now, continuing where I lfet off.
........................
This is how we were greeted in the regiment. Then the service started. We began to study the area of combat operations, the lay of the land. Started studying the technical topics anew, because for us the I-153 and the I-15bis were completely unkown fighters. Along the way, they began to "fatten us up", they fed us very well, no comparison to the academy grub. Flights on combat missions were then not even discussed. We just trained. Into combat then flew only the "old men" - experienced pilots.

When our preparation was nearing the end and we were getting ready to fly on our first combat assignment, an order arrives - send a group of pilots to the city of Onega[where A.S.Pushkin had once been exiled], for re-training on the new fighter P-39 "Aerocobra". Most of the young pilots, including me, ended up in this group. We were very content. Even though the Aerocobra had just began to be deployed in the Soviet VVS, it had already gotten very good reviews, as a fast and powerfully armed machine....

.... We began to study the Aerocobra. We rapidly passed the technical[written] exam, made 3-4 flights on the trainer(there were 2-seater Cobras in the regiment) and were getting ready to fly alone, when suddenly, at one of the morning lineups, they announce the order that we, the pilots of the 828th regiment, are to immediately return to their unit. Without any explanations.

Well, one does not discuss orders inthe army. Very unhappy we get on the train and go back to Kem'. When we disembarked we saw that on the parrallel tracks, there is a train of platform cars on which are airplane fuselages, with the wings stacked along the side. The aircraft were completely unknown. The fuselages powerful - angular. There were different opinions about what kind machines they are, somebody even said that these are sturmoviks, but nobody knew that with any certainty. Anyway, this train did not interest us much. Some planes are being transported - during a war this is a regular occurence. Let them transport - we need to get back to the regiment.

We arrived in the regiment, and here we were solidly dissapointed. They said that our regiment is becoming purely shturmovoi, and will fly only Il-2 Sturmoviks, which have already arrived in Kem'. All that was left was to transport them to the aerodrome and assemble them. For the assembly a special brigade had arrived from the factory. And no fighters for you chaps - forget it.

A few of my friends - the "true" fighter pilots - immediately rose up, started writing petitions, like "I am a fighter pilot - I do not want to fly a sturmovik, I dmand to be transferred to a figher regiment!" Three or fours of these guys got transferred to fighter regiments, and the rest somehow cooled down by themselves. I took my transformation into a pilot-sturmovik, calmly. Rigth away I decided: come what may, everything that happens is for the better. That is my nature - never refuse, but never ask for it.... If I need to become a sturmovik - I am ready to follow the order. I submitted to my fate, which had served me such a "surprise", and today I can only thank her for it. The choice was made correctly. It was the right decision to stay and fight in the Sturmovik. My comrades, those that transferred to fighter regiments, were not lucky. In the course of a few months, they all died in battle with German fighters. For fighter combat, their preparation had been very inadequate.

But our regiment started learning to fly and fight in the Il-2.

.............................
That's all for today. There's still a long way to go.

Xiolablu3
07-08-2005, 12:58 AM
Great job m8, this is interesting http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

rnzoli
07-08-2005, 01:09 AM
Very good translation. I am anxious to see the remaining part, please continue when you can http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/11.gif

Skarphol
07-08-2005, 04:47 AM
Really nice reading! Keep up the good work! I know it is very timeconsuming to translate text like this, and I really appreciate that somebody takes the time to do it!

Skarphol

F16_Neo
07-08-2005, 05:18 AM
Thanx for the effort of doing this http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif.
Rare and interesting read!

p1ngu666
07-11-2005, 05:33 PM
nice read
*bumpity*

Enforcer572005
07-11-2005, 05:55 PM
yes, thanx for all the work again. THis is very educational and informative. may provide some info for future cmpn projects as well.... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Tooz_69GIAP
07-12-2005, 06:24 AM
looking forward to part 3

F19_Ob
07-12-2005, 06:48 AM
Any info about il-2's shooting at fighters would be interesting.
It's hard to find any sources at all in europe about it.

good translation http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

249th_Harrier
07-12-2005, 12:27 PM
Excellent! Keep it going!

Tooz_69GIAP
07-12-2005, 02:41 PM
as far as I am aware, there were 1 or 2 ace sturmovik pilots (shot down 5 enemy while flying IL-2s), and one ace gunner, or something. Not much in the way of air to air stuff from IL-2 pilots, at least, I haven't seen much.

I'd be very interested to find info on it though!

Huckebein_UK
07-12-2005, 03:00 PM
This is great, thanks for taking the time mate! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

JaguarMEX
07-12-2005, 06:35 PM
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mjr_health
07-12-2005, 08:06 PM
Cool, thanks for the time.

BrotherVoodoo
07-12-2005, 08:22 PM
Very cool! Your efforts are very much appreciated. http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif