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TriFire420
04-13-2006, 06:31 PM
Anyone would like to this version in action in IL-2, ?? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/agreepost.gif

The-Pizza-Man
04-13-2006, 06:46 PM
The Mk.XVIII didn't see action during the war, in fact I'm not sure it was even in production during the war.

Xiolablu3
04-13-2006, 07:08 PM
Do you mean Mk14>?

This was the last large scale Spitfire production during WW2 with just under 1000 planes (about the same as the FW190D and 109K4, although in the Spits case very few were destroyed on the ground and most of these actually flew in combat!)

Yes the Mk14 would be nice, it would be somewhere between a Mk9 and the Tempest I would think.

'The first operational Mk XIV was delivered to the RAF on the 20th December 1943; it was so sucessful that 400 aircraft were ordered in February 1944'

EDIT actually, the MkXVIII cant have missed the war by very long! Look at his pic and read the text :-

http://www.davidpride.com/AirVenture2003/AV3_185.htm

Delivered June 1945!

'As mentioned earlier, the Mk XIV was so successful that a sophisticated version, known as the "Super Spitfire", was built. The "tear drop" canopy was used again and with a Griffon engine, a modified fuselage and wing shape, the Spitfire Mk XVIII was introduced. This aircraft was capable of over 470 mph, and production started in March 1945'

It could have been fighting 1.98 ATA 109K's had it been needed http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

vladward3050
04-13-2006, 07:35 PM
I was always under the impression that the XVIII was the latest mark of spit to see wartime service and the the much improved spit 21 was the one that just missed the war.

luftluuver
04-13-2006, 07:38 PM
Xiolablu3,

there was only ~750 Mk XIVs produced before VE Day. Production did not end until 1946.

K-4 production was ~1500 units.

Dora production was ~1800 units.

Xiolablu3
04-13-2006, 08:01 PM
Thanks for the correction, mate http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

luftluuver
04-14-2006, 02:32 AM
It looks like the number of Doras so often seen stated is really A-9 numbers (~900).

mynameisroland
04-14-2006, 04:02 AM
And Xiola the Dora 9 would pown the Spitfire XIV anyhow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

The-Pizza-Man
04-14-2006, 04:15 AM
I think there may have been one or two squadrons of Mk 21s operation before VE day

This is on the Mk XVIII
"In the main it was a Mk XIV with strengthened wings and undercarriage and extra fuel tankage. The extra fuel - 66 gal in the fuselage and 26.5 gal in each wing - made it useful for reconnaissance, for which role it had alternative F24 or F52 camera installations. Even so, it had the same speed of the lighter Mk XIV."

So essentially it was the same as the Mk XIV but with more fuel, which was very useful in the real world, but not so useful in FB.

HellToupee
04-14-2006, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by mynameisroland:
And Xiola the Dora 9 would pown the Spitfire XIV anyhow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

XIV had a top speed higher than the d9 slower at lower where mr tempest pwns it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif alts but would dominate it higher http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

ImpStarDuece
04-14-2006, 07:12 AM
It was ths Mk XXI that saw service just before wars end. The main delay was in the handling problems, specifically lateral stability, which were sorted out enough by mid April, 1945, to see the Mk XXI go into service. It was reportedly 8-15 mph faster than the Mk XIV and better in the rolling plane, but lost out in terms of RoC.


The Mk XVIII was evolved into something of a specialty variant. It had longer range (700 miles internal fuel) and better load carrying capacity (1500 lbs) than any Spitfire before it.

The F. Mk XVIII, while externally similar to late prodction Mk XIVs, was considerably reworked internally. In order to carry an additional 64 imperial gallons (77 US gallons/290 litres) the fuselage was lenghtened fractionally and considerably reinforced. The undercarriage and landing gear were both beefed up as well to compensate for the additional weight.

The internal wing structure was beefed up as well. A solid main wing spar replaced the previous laminated mulit-sectional one. The 3 hardpoints were now each cleared for a 500lbs bomb, an improvement of 500lbs in bombload for the Spitfire. The Mk XVIII was also one of the few Spitfires to carry the 170 imp gal drop tank as standard, instead of as an overload ferry tank.

All these modifications didn't come without a price though. Configured primarily as a fighter bomber, the Mk XVIII usually flew with bomb shackles attached, dropping some 8-11 mph from is top speed. Rate of climb also suffered, being about 10% lower than the Mk XIVs. However, the new tail and weight apparently made the Mk XVIII one of the finest Spitfire gun platforms, allowing stead and easy aim at ground and air targets.

mynameisroland
04-14-2006, 09:04 AM
Originally posted by HellToupee:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by mynameisroland:
And Xiola the Dora 9 would pown the Spitfire XIV anyhow http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

XIV had a top speed higher than the d9 slower at lower where mr tempest pwns it http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif alts but would dominate it higher http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just as well those Luft boys had the Me 262 to aid their excellent Doras http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Xiolablu3
04-14-2006, 09:21 AM
My Dad is bigger than your Dad....

Oooops wrong argument, sorry http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/51.gif http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif