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The_Stealth_Owl
10-13-2009, 10:46 AM
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt138/SILVERFISH1992/JetAvia.jpg


Now lets see your's! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif

ElAurens
10-13-2009, 10:50 AM
See my sig pic.

Deedsundone
10-13-2009, 11:00 AM
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c84/S-8/Swe11.jpg

stalkervision
10-13-2009, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by The_Stealth_Owl:
http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt138/SILVERFISH1992/JetAvia.jpg


Now lets see your's! http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/25.gif


where's the propeller? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/winky.gif

RSS-Martin
10-13-2009, 11:19 AM
Guess it wasnīt in the Budget? http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.gif
Otherwise my favorite plane would be this baby, but I have my doubts I will ever see it on IL2 or SOW

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Flugzeuge/he177f.jpg

The_Stealth_Owl
10-13-2009, 11:30 AM
Its a jet! http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

AndyJWest
10-13-2009, 11:31 AM
Stalkervision and RSS-Martin clearly need to look more closely - haven't they seen a jet biplane before?

Edit -------------

Rats! Owl beat me to it with his reply.

Has anyone ever built a jet biplane?

RSS-Martin
10-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Got interrupted editing. But added my favorite plane in the post above.
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Comics/2006-02-23_012924_pilot11.gif

Unknown-Pilot
10-13-2009, 11:58 AM
What would the point of a jet be on a bi-plane that is braced and dangling it's gear like that? Would be better on something like the I-153 with an eclosed pit - much cleaner, allows for the jet engine to be used to greater advantage.

Anyway, for inclusion in the game? Or just overall? The latter can be an impossible question to answer.

So for the former -

http://www.orgsites.com/ca/caf-socal/F6Airsho02.JPG.jpg

Yes, we have a 3D model, but a borked FM. Lose the drag chute and then it might actually be IN the sim.

http://www.scalewings.com/modelle/tigercat/F7F_1.jpg

http://www.mustangsmustangs.ws/p-51/p51sforsale/bearcat95255apr2005/Hbearcat95255apr2005.jpg

And finally, a 229 with 262-HGII engines in it.

Then the sim would truly be complete. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

(oh wait, and MW-50 on the Pfeil)

Bremspropeller
10-13-2009, 12:14 PM
http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd80/cenciotti/Tokunaga%20Grosseto/039AFA_040122_0175.jpg

More pure-sexiness pics over there:

http://cencio4.wordpress.com/f-104-tribute/

DrHerb
10-13-2009, 12:22 PM
http://richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Chino2008/Highlights/Strega08.jpg

HayateAce
10-13-2009, 12:24 PM
Brems beat me to it.

Wings? Where we're going we don't need wings.

http://www.geocities.com/goose_topgun99/f104pic.jpg

http://www.i-f-s.nl/types/F-104GCCV.jpg

Also:

http://www.mustangsmustangs.ws/p-51/p51sforsale/bearcat95255apr2005/Hbearcat95255apr2005.jpg

Mr_Zooly
10-13-2009, 12:47 PM
I remember seeing a photo of an I16 with ramjets on the wings.

dangerlaef
10-13-2009, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by AndyJWest:
Has anyone ever built a jet biplane?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/M-15_belphegor.jpg

PZL M15 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL_M-15_Belphegor)

Ah, those wacky poles http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

ytareh
10-13-2009, 02:17 PM
Im with the F104 Starfighter guys ...pure class...seems strange that a 'fussier' designed plane like the F4 Phantom would be faster.The Starfighter really was like a winged bullet.

AndyJWest
10-13-2009, 02:18 PM
http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Wacky Poles indeed.

Still, give it a couple of 30mm cannon and a bomb rack, and it would be perfect for ground attack...

M_Gunz
10-13-2009, 02:31 PM
The thing about jets is they don't develop much power at low speeds without using loads of fuel.
The thing about biplanes is they have large drag well below 300 kph, and fixed gear just makes it worse.

But if you want a very short range biplane with afterburner flame out the tail, there's still better ways
to do it like running some kind of turboprop that'll give you a lot more acceleration, turn and climb.

Stealth Owl should maybe look into Rise of Flight.

Bremspropeller
10-13-2009, 02:42 PM
seems strange that a 'fussier' designed plane like the F4 Phantom would be faster.The Starfighter really was like a winged bullet.

It wasn't - at least not in operational use.

The Zipper would go M 2.5 non-tweaked (Tom Delashaw did get there in a 104C and stated it was still accelerating at the point he took the throttle back), whereas a flightline-Rhino would never go there.
Officially, the 104 was cleared M 2.0 (A-D) and M 2.2 (CF,G,J,S) but it really would go faster without much trouble - if you didn't mind overheating your engine-duct and fuselage.

The slatted Rhino-versions were limited to M 1.9 which is the same as a Zipper with tip-tanks.

BTW: the Zip could sustain a 7G-turn, just like the Rhino at pretty much the same speed (450~470 kts).
So it wasn't that bad in sustained turning-performance for it's day.

Scolar
10-13-2009, 06:16 PM
Of course the Vulcan!
http://dmm.broadchoice.com/custom/_2a2a/content/images/vulcan.gif

i mean
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/bomber/vulcan/vulcan_21.jpg

R_Target
10-13-2009, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Unknown-Pilot:

Anyway, for inclusion in the game? Or just overall? The latter can be an impossible question to answer.

So for the former -

http://www.orgsites.com/ca/caf-socal/F6Airsho02.JPG.jpg

Yes, we have a 3D model, but a borked FM. Lose the drag chute and then it might actually be IN the sim.

http://www.scalewings.com/modelle/tigercat/F7F_1.jpg

http://www.mustangsmustangs.ws/p-51/p51sforsale/bearcat95255apr2005/Hbearcat95255apr2005.jpg



Agree 110% with WEP. Plus a Grumman Duck.

http://richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/YankeeAirMuseum2005/Highlights/GrummanDuck0830.jpg

doraemil
10-14-2009, 07:39 AM
oh the F8F bearcat http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

http://www.daveswarbirds.com/Nippon/photos/J7W1_Shiden_.jpg


and


http://www.mjgkramer.com/aircraft/A-1_Skyraider_109.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/ff/AD_Skyraider_VA-195_USS_Princeton.jpg/780px-AD_Skyraider_VA-195_USS_Princeton.jpg

Razor1uk-LMC01
10-14-2009, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
....my favorite plane would be this baby, but I have my doubts I will ever see it on IL2 or SOW
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Flugzeuge/he177f.jpg

I too would love to see 'Goerings Duck/Torch' ingame; preferabley 1946~ v4.10?) It would be a tough beast to kill assuming you missed the oil coolers. Minddue, if it was ever pilotable assuming its ever ingame, it would be a pain in the neck trying to shutdown 1 half of DB610/612.

Even the He 177B/277 as a 1946/47' option; with lesser flamability and 177A-5's (or is it the A-7's?) extra fire extinguishers...

But allas I believe I am ranting a dream.

Urufu_Shinjiro
10-14-2009, 09:50 AM
I've often pondered a P-38 with a jet conversion.

JG52Uther
10-14-2009, 10:07 AM
http://www.aviartnutkins.com/images/battle/large/BB9-Height-of-the-Battle-Spitfires-Do17.jpg

That'll do me.

Bearcat99
10-14-2009, 10:10 AM
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.gif

RSS-Martin
10-14-2009, 10:11 AM
Well the Do17 is coming in SoW (BoB) http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/10.gif

RSS-Martin
10-14-2009, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by Razor1uk-LMC01:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
....my favorite plane would be this baby, but I have my doubts I will ever see it on IL2 or SOW
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/RSS-Martin/Flugzeuge/he177f.jpg

I too would love to see 'Goerings Duck/Torch' ingame; preferabley 1946~ v4.10?) It would be a tough beast to kill assuming you missed the oil coolers. Minddue, if it was ever pilotable assuming its ever ingame, it would be a pain in the neck trying to shutdown 1 half of DB610/612.

Even the He 177B/277 as a 1946/47' option; with lesser flamability and 177A-5's (or is it the A-7's?) extra fire extinguishers...

But allas I believe I am ranting a dream. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yeah would be nice, in German that plane was called the "Reichs Feuerzeug" which says all about this plane. It would have been a great plane if it didnīt have those engine problems.
Boom and zoom on that thing could be rather leady! Nice would be also the so called "Amerika Bomber" although it never went beyond prototypes.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

http://www.militaryimages.net/photopost/data/916/Me_264-6M_Amerika_Bomber_2.jpg

Crash_Moses
10-14-2009, 10:46 AM
I never go nowheres without 'ol Bessy...

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y125/Crash_Moses/hugsbd.jpg

Unknown-Pilot
10-14-2009, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by RSS-Martin:
Nice would be also the so called "Amerika Bomber" although it never went beyond prototypes.
http://forums.ubi.com/images/smilies/16x16_smiley-sad.gif

You know.... we are a weird bunch. lol

I too am "sad" that a lot of ideas and prototypes never made it to see combat (on all sides, but the Axis had the more interesting ones, honestly - Luft'46, IJ secret weapons and modified versions of 262 and 163, that hot-rod Fiat that was canned only because of production times but showed promise of better performance than LW counterparts, etc), HOWEVER... I don't for one second want the war to have turned out differently.

lol, I dunno, just kinda struck me when I saw your post - I'm with you, and yet, have to be glad that they didn't at the same time. http://forums.ubi.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

M_Gunz
10-14-2009, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Urufu_Shinjiro:
I've often pondered a P-38 with a jet conversion.

Sorry, can't help it but ROFL a plane that first locks it's own elevators even while climbing and then tucks under!

OTOH the postwar British IIRC Vultee Vampire and (EDIT) the Venom (50's?) did have the booms.

BillSwagger
10-14-2009, 12:51 PM
If i could restore a Razorback P-47D and add the updated components of the M or even see if the power house of the P-72 could be fitted to the airframe.

Might turn out like this.


http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/billswagger/P-47conceptcopy.jpg


Includes modified art from Osprey's "P-47 Thunderbolt Aces of the Ninth and Fifteenth Air Forces"

http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww99/billswagger/P-47original.jpg



Bill